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Well, churches don't pay property tax and they run bingos and all sorts of musical events, jazz, sufi dances, election and polling stations, teen dances in small town where the teenages hid their liquor in parking lot! With the high cost of daycare at $50 per child per day in Canada, every church there seems to be running daycares and ESL courses. I am just saying; I take no issue. Property taxes in western Canada runs 3 to 4 thousand at least per year for a average community sized lot - ie church lot.
Jail is another instance, were homosexuality, as far as I know thrives.
Situational homosexuality exists eveywhere, jail, military, isolated mining camps, remote religous retreats, I guess anywhere men work and live where women are non-existent.
Gay people have children. In fact, if you were gay in the time that my grandfather was a young man, it was probably quite likely that you would.
Yes, it was common, and still is to marry a women and have guys on the side. I have known Indian parents to tell their gay sons to go to India and get a wife and bring her back.
Isn't that what choice is all about, you choose to marry a wife then at 40 you decide to come out and divorce your wife and partner up with a young man your oldest son's age, you being 40 and the young man is 23. Plenty of example of that. Middleaged women don't take it well trying finding a second husband after having 3 kids and looking for a job after the divorce,
You can't compare being fat to being gay (no offence).
I weighed 240, pure fat at 58 - got guys to teach me baskeball and played eventually play 4 times a week. I wasn't good when you start at 58, but I "ran in circles" on the court and now weight 150-160. As an aside, my blood pressure is way down - so weightloss can help.
Gay people have children. In fact, if you were gay in the time that my grandfather was a young man, it was probably quite likely that you would.
Yes, it was common, and still is to marry a women and have guys on the side. I have known Indian parents to tell their gay sons to go to India and get a wife and bring her back.
Isn't that what choice is all about, you choose to marry a wife then at 40 you decide to come out and divorce your wife and partner up with a young man your oldest son's age, you being 40 and the young man is 23. Plenty of example of that. Middleaged women don't take it well trying finding a second husband after having 3 kids and looking for a job after the divorce,
In the US, around half of all marriages end in divorce - I suspect that not all of them involve guys who have figured out they are gay after being married for a while. In fact, I think it is fairly atypical. And, of course, women can and do initiate divorces for various reasons, too (including figuring out they are lesbian), which can be just as devastating to the husband as a divorce can be to a wife.
Of the divorces that do involve a gay man, I don't see any strong pattern of the guy hooking up with a much younger guys afterwards. I can think of four guys I've known over the years who realized they were gay after being married and having children, and only one seemed to have a particular interest in guys younger the he was (but they weren't nearly as young as his son, BTW). I also used to know one gay guy (who happened to be a fairly well-known concert pianist and teacher) who had a "convenience marriage" with a lesbian. They had a child, and amicably separated after the child was fully grown.
So, no, I don't think your description of it is particularly what choice is all about.
I think I'll close this down now. I think the original topic (whatever it was) has been pretty well exhausted. The character of the current discussion is probably more appropriate for a forum on GLBT social issues.
Meanwhile, there's a new post on Bach that's definitely appropriate for a piano forum. That thread has only 10 replies. This one has 411.
"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)
