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#2036615 - 02/20/13 08:39 PM
Where to get advanced arrangements?
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Being a classical pianist, I was always wondering where does one get **advanced** jazzy piano arrangements of stuff like movie themes and popular songs. By **advanced**, I mean non-trivial harmonies, a good level of detail and no idiotic simplifications in the rhythm. An example of classical advanced arrangements would be Franz Liszt's transcriptions of Wagner's operas.
The local music store has lots of things of that nature for big note and easy piano, but almost none for intermediate and strictly nothing for "advanced".
The only interesting thing I've seen out there were Gershwin arrangements of his own songs that were plenty elaborate and deliciously jazzy, but unfortunately I had never heard of most of them, except from "I got rhythm".
The jazz section in the music store has lots of arrangements of jazz standards, but then nothing really popular and mainstream.
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#2036642 - 02/20/13 10:35 PM
Re: Where to get advanced arrangements?
[Re: KataiYubi]
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I think it's tough to find these, KataiYoubi. The problem is that mainstream/movie/pop arrangements are marketed more toward the casual player, who is less likely to have the skills necessary to play advanced music. And I suppose the people marketing mainstream sheet music figure that it's easier for super advanced folks to jazz an arrangement up to be more sophisticated than for beginners to dumb-down harder arrangements. Your best bet might be to find sheet music for non-classical piano solos, released by the original composers, e.g., some of the anime/video game music is pretty high level (to my ears/fingers); Yann Tiersen has some interesting and rhythmically complex works for solo piano; and my own personal favorite, Ludovico Einaudi. And if you want TRULY advanced jazzy stuff, check out the note for note transcriptions of Keith Jarrett, e.g., the Koln Concert book. That will keep you busy for a while. 
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#2036883 - 02/21/13 11:11 AM
Re: Where to get advanced arrangements?
[Re: KataiYubi]
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Registered: 01/19/05
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Yes, most of the advanced level arrangements you hear are people who use lead sheets and improvise our own arrangements at whatever level our ability allows. Another whole world and lots of fun.
I used to look for those advanced arrangements and was frustrated too.
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#2036963 - 02/21/13 01:13 PM
Re: Where to get advanced arrangements?
[Re: KataiYubi]
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The problem with arrangements is that most good jazz artists never play the same piece in the same way twice. That was probably true of a lot of classical artists, as well, but they usually only wrote them down one or two different ways.
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#2037054 - 02/21/13 04:25 PM
Re: Where to get advanced arrangements?
[Re: KataiYubi]
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There is an incredible and gigantic amount of exactly the type of music you're after and much of available for free online. For most of the jazz giants of the past and some of the present, people have made many books of note for note transcriptions of their recordings. Some of these Art Tatum, Bill Evans, Oscar Peterson, Cy Walter, Keith Jarrett, George Gershwin, Erroll Garner, J.Lawrence Cooke, James P. Johnson, Fats Waller, Albert Ammons, Jelly Roll Morton, Liberace, Billy Mayerl, Ennio Morricone, Adam Caroll, Marian McPartland, etc., etc. For most of these pianists or composers there are many 100's of pages of transcriptions of their recordings available. There are many sources for these but one of the biggest free ones is www.pianofiles.comFor more contemporary songs there are also an almost infinite source of advanced arrangements, for example: http://www.sonicbands.com/gli-spartiti-di-mercuzio/This site has many movie music arrangements. http://www.pianofiles.com/(this site has 1.5 million members and 3.5 million sheets and a "sheet" could mean a 300 page book) For a given song, you have to search the site for what's available and choose an advanced arrangement if that's what you're looking for. http://www.youtube.com/user/vkgoeswild?feature=watchThis very good classical pianist has advanced covers for many very contemporary songs at a small cost. Other sites of interest: http://www.mikegarson.com/The sensational jazz pianist's site has hundreds of advanced arrangements available at a modest cost. But first learn his original compositon called Lullaby for Our Daughters. http://www.bushgrafts.com/jazz/video.htm#iThe jazz pianist's site has 100's of advanced arrangements available at extremely low cost. There are numerous sites devoted to anime and game music.
Edited by pianoloverus (02/21/13 05:36 PM)
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#2037540 - 02/22/13 02:20 PM
Re: Where to get advanced arrangements?
[Re: KataiYubi]
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Registered: 01/19/05
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Cool, I didn't know about all those sites, Thanks for the links, I love it.
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#2039138 - 02/25/13 04:05 PM
Re: Where to get advanced arrangements?
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I'd like to add George Shearing...he has a collection of books...not difficult to read and a lot to learn.
rada Most of those are quite "simplified" two page arrangements and certainly not on the level of his own performances.
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