Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
61 registered (AZNpiano, agraffe, AndrewJCW, beet31425, Bellicapelli, 17 invisible), 786 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#2037047 - 02/21/13 04:10 PM Question about hammers
Quasi_una_fantasia Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 18
Loc: Italy
Hello. I would kindly like to ask if could be possible to deduce the factory brand of the hammerheads that are into a Steinway A188 from 1919. This hammerheads set is an after market one which was installed by a very valued technician (retired now), perhaps about 10 years ago.

Thank you very much indeed for any suggestion.




Top
(ad 568) PTG Convention Norfolk
PTG Convention Norfolk
#2037049 - 02/21/13 04:16 PM Re: Question about hammers [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
BDB Online   content
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/07/03
Posts: 23762
Loc: Oakland
Could be Steinway hammers, although they would be a bit older than 10 years ago. They would be marked on the lowest hammers. That is where you can find markings, if there are any.
_________________________
Semipro Tech

Top
#2037050 - 02/21/13 04:16 PM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Olek Offline
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 9230
Loc: France
they look like a re-felted set on original core /original underfelt but not seeing the side makes it difficult to be sure.
The gluing is not original, certainly, (and not nice looking) but I never saw such hammer making (with uneven impregnation lines
The shape is too much "potato like" for being normal made hammers.

The felt looks very soft and cotoneous - may be US imported ?

Re felted hammers have staples, and all the original marks (not always stamped Steinway)

The stamp of the shop that did the re felting is often find on some bass hammer.



Edited by Olek (02/21/13 04:20 PM)
_________________________
Professional of the profession.
Foo Foo specialist
I wish to add some kind and sensitive phrase but nothing comes to mind.!

Top
#2037081 - 02/21/13 05:03 PM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Quasi_una_fantasia Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 18
Loc: Italy
Thank you very much! I cannot find any mark or stamp on the hammers. What I can say is that they are centainly european hammers and they could have more than 10 years. They also have a progressive "tapered" shape on the sides (more on the basses, less on the trebles).

Top
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#2037105 - 02/21/13 05:36 PM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Supply Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 3919
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
Question - Why is the brand important to you?
_________________________
Jurgen Goering
Piano Forte Supply
www.pianofortesupply.com

Piattino Caster Cups distributor

Top
#2037123 - 02/21/13 05:58 PM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Quasi_una_fantasia Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 18
Loc: Italy
Nothing of "important"... I bought this piano some days ago and I would just like to know if I have done a good purchase.

Top
#2037128 - 02/21/13 06:03 PM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Quasi_una_fantasia Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 18
Loc: Italy

Top
#2037129 - 02/21/13 06:03 PM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
BDB Online   content
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/07/03
Posts: 23762
Loc: Oakland
Does it sound good? Does it play well? If it does, it was a good purchase.
_________________________
Semipro Tech

Top
#2037130 - 02/21/13 06:06 PM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: BDB]
Quasi_una_fantasia Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 18
Loc: Italy
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

But I'm curious... and I use to stay hungry and foolish... Simple I mean... smirk

Top
#2037137 - 02/21/13 06:16 PM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Olek Offline
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 9230
Loc: France
may be too thick felt for a re felting job , in the end, but it shows not hardly pressed heads possibly.

they are new, never played, seem to be well placed under the strings (strings marks) so it is OK


Edited by Olek (02/21/13 06:18 PM)
_________________________
Professional of the profession.
Foo Foo specialist
I wish to add some kind and sensitive phrase but nothing comes to mind.!

Top
#2037143 - 02/21/13 06:28 PM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: Olek]
Quasi_una_fantasia Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 18
Loc: Italy
Thank you Olek, very kind. Yes, the instrument has been entirely rebuilt ten years ago and then left in the lumber-room without playing.


Top
#2037173 - 02/21/13 07:32 PM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Zeno Wood Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/20/07
Posts: 504
Loc: Brooklyn, NY
Have you tried asking the retired technician who installed the hammers?
_________________________
Zeno Wood, Piano Technician
Brooklyn College

Top
#2037226 - 02/21/13 09:24 PM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Supply Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 3919
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
New hammers on old shanks is a far cry from an "entire rebuild". The action felts and buckskin also look old or original. It is fairly common that partial action restorations are sold as as full rebuilds. The main thing is that it plays properly and sounds good to you.
_________________________
Jurgen Goering
Piano Forte Supply
www.pianofortesupply.com

Piattino Caster Cups distributor

Top
#2037375 - 02/22/13 08:09 AM Re: Question about the hammers of my Steinway A [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Olek Offline
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 9230
Loc: France
Sure, the "entirely rebuild" is sort of generic term, it always strikes me for having seen real rebuilds, that makes a huge difference in the end. New pinblock, new bridge tops, dampers hamner, shanks and sometime full stack...keys done new or the sides repaired, etc.. The case, of course

450 -600 hours work on a grand, often finished 6 month later....

Of course some original parts are better kept in some cases
_________________________
Professional of the profession.
Foo Foo specialist
I wish to add some kind and sensitive phrase but nothing comes to mind.!

Top
#2037831 - 02/23/13 06:21 AM Re: Question about hammers [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Quasi_una_fantasia Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 18
Loc: Italy
Thank you very much indeed. The piano has been "rebuilt" in the sense that everything that was not good enought to last has been replaced: strings, dampers, hammers, pins, frame and case finishes, etc. But it has not been sold with a claim of "full rebuilt": you see, it comes from a retired technician who is no longer interested in business.



Top
#2037868 - 02/23/13 09:21 AM Re: Question about hammers [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Olek Offline
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 9230
Loc: France
Well I dont think the plate holes have been enlarged or made a bit conical for the new thicker tuning pins.

Elsewhere the job look clean.
_________________________
Professional of the profession.
Foo Foo specialist
I wish to add some kind and sensitive phrase but nothing comes to mind.!

Top
#2038097 - 02/23/13 05:22 PM Re: Question about hammers [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Quasi_una_fantasia Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 18
Loc: Italy
A clearer picture... the piano will be delivered very soon.

Top
#2038101 - 02/23/13 05:29 PM Re: Question about hammers [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Quasi_una_fantasia Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 18
Loc: Italy

Top
#2038103 - 02/23/13 05:39 PM Re: Question about hammers [Re: Quasi_una_fantasia]
Quasi_una_fantasia Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 01/06/13
Posts: 18
Loc: Italy

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
Why It's Impossible to Tune a Piano!
aka, why you should be nice to your tuner.
--------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
(ad)
Hammond A100 for Sale!
PRICE DROPPED!
(Think B3)
Hammond A100 for sale!
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad 125)
Sweetwater $55,000 Giveaway
Sweetwater $55,000 Mic Locker Giveaway
(ads)
PD - WNG - MH
Wessell Nickel & Gross
New Topics - Multiple Forums
No capstans and question about damper lift
by Beemer
05/25/16 01:56 AM
MESSIAEN - Theme and variations
by PatrickCaldwell
05/24/16 09:51 PM
Fair value for 1984 Yamaha G-2 Satin finish?
by newbie78
05/24/16 09:37 PM
Upright piano sustain pedal doesn't work on some keys
by Ahmedn1
05/24/16 09:31 PM
Advice on buying a small grand and concerns about Perzina
by Pneuma
05/24/16 05:10 PM
Forum Stats
83,748 Registered Members
44 Forums
172,908 Topics
2,527,501 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2016 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission