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#2036462 - 02/20/13 02:15 PM Re: Other manufacturers making their own AvantGrand-like pianos? [Re: krzyzowski]
theJourney Offline
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Originally Posted By: krzyzowski
IMHO, In 20 yr the acoustic instrument will become obsolete. Modern equipment has become accepted as the "Evolution" of sound. This is not a bad thing because technology has changed music ever since the vibrating string. The new kids on the block like the artifical sound and strive to create it. Bach can sound great played on anything..Its all about the: Composer> The Music> The Performer> not the instrument.


In 20 years? Not a chance.

While most of today's digital piano pieces of C**p will already long ago have been brought to the junk heap, my acoustic and that of many others will still be going strong. In addition, those of us who enjoy authentic, analog experiences that have a direct culture-evolutionary link going back hundreds of years will still prefer the real thing over the digital substitute.

Synthetic fabrics have been around for more than 50 years, yet still people want to enjoy the comfort of cotton and wool.

Linoleum floors and and vinyl carpets are cheap and cheerful, yet many distinguishing home owners still choose for marble and waxed hard-wood floors. Automatic transmissions make it so much easier to hold your Big Gulp in your hand yet clasic automobile aficionados would never consider a car without manual transmission.

I could go on, but I think you get the picture....

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#2036471 - 02/20/13 02:32 PM Re: Other manufacturers making their own AvantGrand-like pianos? [Re: theJourney]
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Automatic transmissions make it so much easier to hold your Big Gulp in your hand yet clasic automobile aficionados would never consider a car without manual transmission.

I was hoping you'd compare the car with the horse. smile

There will always be an acoustic pianos on stage for performances but there will be fewer and fewer acoustic pianos made and more and more electric and hybrid pianos used in places where previously the acoustic piano reigned.
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#2036517 - 02/20/13 04:17 PM Re: Other manufacturers making their own AvantGrand-like pianos? [Re: MzrtFan]
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And don't forget that in the Old World, manual transmission still reigns supreme. We Europeans like to feel that we are in control, not a machine. grin

Even for bog-standard automobiles, like my little Citröen C2, manual transmission is standard. The vast majority of cars in the UK are manual. And most learner drivers learn on manual.

We also like to feel that we are in control of the keyboard too........

Incidentally, among aficionados (outdoors people), natural fabrics are the way to go. Merino wool and bamboo, unlike polyester and nylon, are naturally anti-bacterial and so remain stink-free even when worn unwashed for weeks in the mountains, but still wick reasonably well and quick-drying.
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#2036671 - 02/20/13 11:48 PM Re: Other manufacturers making their own AvantGrand-like pianos? [Re: adak]
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Originally Posted By: adak
It was mentioned earlier that Roland doesn't make their own piano actions. Is that right?


I don't know where you read this (it would be helpful to include a source to the thread...), however the information is not correct. Roland DPs utilise Roland-made keyboard actions.

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#2037557 - 02/22/13 02:55 PM Re: Other manufacturers making their own AvantGrand-like pianos? [Re: krzyzowski]
Karnevil Offline
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Originally Posted By: krzyzowski
IMHO, In 20 yr the acoustic instrument will become obsolete. Modern equipment has become accepted as the "Evolution" of sound. This is not a bad thing because technology has changed music ever since the vibrating string. The new kids on the block like the artifical sound and strive to create it. Bach can sound great played on anything..Its all about the: Composer> The Music> The Performer> not the instrument.


No chance, no way.

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#2037648 - 02/22/13 05:50 PM Re: Other manufacturers making their own AvantGrand-like pianos? [Re: MzrtFan]
maurus Offline
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The interesting thing about vibrating strings is: They are still around. And, coupled to some wooden resonance body and agitated by a hand or a suitable mechanism, they still are making fantastic music. And will continue to do so for much longer than we might think.

Acoustics allows for much more complex phenomena than some electronics and a few speakers can emulate.

Real painting won't go away just because we have a few graphics programs. DPs are not here for replacing APs, but for complementing them, for different uses.

Actually this is why hybrid constructions are so attractive. They keep at least part of the real thing. And after all, the best emulation of a grand piano is another grand piano.

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