SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad 125) Sweetwater
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pianoteq
New Pianoteq add-on instrument: U4 upright piano
(ad 125) Music Teacher's Helper
Forum Stats
69835 Members
40 Forums
143363 Topics
2073421 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Quick Links to Useful Stuff
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano Accessories
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Vos grand piano
by wilf
Yesterday at 10:26 PM
Some basic but important beginner questions...(Part 1)
by pianolover85
Yesterday at 09:53 PM
Help Needed Please: Baldwin M2 or Kawai KG-2E
by Benma
Yesterday at 09:07 PM
Why do you study classical composers' work?
by Brian K.
Yesterday at 08:25 PM
A stand alone multitrack recorder?
by peterws
Yesterday at 06:21 PM
Topic Options
#2038296 - 02/24/13 06:29 AM 1920s Sohmer / WN&G regulation specs?
Robert A. Offline
Full Member

Registered: 07/09/08
Posts: 23
Loc: Southern California
Hi there,

I'm a bit stuck regulating a 1927 Sohmer Cupid with a WN&G action. First of all, from everything I've heard, Sohmer used Pratt-Read actions exclusively, so I'm not sure if the action is some kind of brief experiment on the part of Sohmer or perhaps not original.

A while ago, someone here was saying they were having trouble regulating a Sohmer grand until they realized its hammer blow distance was supposed to be 2". After experimenting with a few different distances, I continue to be stumped, so I ask you. Should I be looking at regulation specs for Sohmer grands or for WN&G actions? If anyone can offer insight on the dilemma I'd much appreciate it.

Top
(ad) PTG Convention 2013 Chicago
PTG Convention 2013 Chicago
#2038302 - 02/24/13 06:59 AM Re: 1920s Sohmer / WN&G regulation specs? [Re: Robert A.]
Ed Foote Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 670
Loc: Tennessee
Greetings,
Your key height is proscribed by the case, so that can be a beginning. Has to fit under the fallboard and should not look weird over the keyslip.

Key dip can be from .375" to .400". Set the dip on one of the keys to a value somewhere inbetween these two, set the let-off, and then raise the hammer until you have .040" after touch. That will be your blow distance for a middle of the road beginning set-up. You may find the action is made for a deeper touch and longer blow, but you can't get too far away from the key's limitations, since the sharps can't bury, and they don't feel good if higher than 1/2 inch.
good luck
_________________________
Ed Foote RPT
http://www.piano-tuners.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html

Top
#2038417 - 02/24/13 12:20 PM Re: 1920s Sohmer / WN&G regulation specs? [Re: Robert A.]
Supply Online   content
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 3450
Loc: Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
As Ed alludes, an action will generally tell a person how it wants and needs to be regulated. However, you need to be able to understand the language it is speaking. This requires more in-depth, close-up and personal exposure and regulating experience with many grand actions than reading a book or two and spending a lot of time on the internet. Grand actions are in fact fairly complex beasts, when you get down into the details of the interactive steps of regulation.

I suggest getting a piano technician in to do a first regulation and then you can experiment with it from there.
_________________________
Jurgen Goering
Piano Forte Supply
www.pianofortesupply.com

Piattino Caster Cups distributor

Top
#2038510 - 02/24/13 03:29 PM Re: 1920s Sohmer / WN&G regulation specs? [Re: Supply]
Ed McMorrow, RPT Online   content
Full Member

Registered: 12/09/12
Posts: 460
Loc: Seattle, WA USA
I second Jurgens advice.
_________________________
In a seemingly infinite universe-infinite human creativity is-seemingly possible

Top



Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
World's Oldest Living Pianist -- Alice is 109!
Amazing, inspiring, humbling!
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
Piano Books
-------------------
panic


(ad) Dampp Chaser
Piano Lifesaver
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Download & Print Sheet Music Instantly
sheet music search
sheet music search

sheet music search
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Piano
Who's Online
104 registered (accordeur, apianostudent, Allan W., antony, AZNpiano, 41 invisible), 1132 Guests and 11 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ads by Google)
(Views)Popular Topics
Just for those totally devoted to Chopin 9553830
Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1 6625853
Jazz Study Group 2: Advanced Players 5335373
Rostoskys serious thread. (by request) 4625423
OT Paging Jerry Groot (and any one else living in the Northland) 4299997
Jazz Study Group: Autumn Leaves, ATTYA, etc. 3979223
Achievement of the week - what got you excited? 2362044
Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano 2248751
Alfred's Basic and All in One Adult Piano Course Book #2 2220854
Men Can Fix Anything 2192017



 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |
 
piano supplies piano accessories PianoSupplies.com is a division of Piano World


Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| Del.icio.us |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2013 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission