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#1731723 - 08/12/11 12:42 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
Piano Girl RMG Offline
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Registered: 06/24/07
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It's a creative writing forum, a piano forum, a floor wax, and a dessert topping. Look at our numbers. We must be doing something right.

I am back from Belgium. AssumingI am not wrestled to the ground by the Diet Police and thrown into solitary confinement for consuming way too many waffles and French fries, we will be heading to France tomorrow, where we'll be staying in an 18th century French farmhouse in Bourgogne, with a grand piano in our room. The place costs a mere 45 € per night, and if it's as whacky, eccentric, and wonderful as I am anticipating I will be glad to post the info here.

Apple, use your instincts. Sometimes it's good to use opportunities like this to make changes in your life. Sounds like you're fired up about the possibilities with new churches. And it also sounds like the idea of working with Miss Thing does not exactly thrill you.

Clef, love the photos and the anniversary info. I do hope NASA will write back to you, assuming there are still any employees there at all.
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#1731832 - 08/12/11 04:05 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
Exalted Wombat Offline
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Registered: 02/28/09
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Loc: London UK
Originally Posted By: Piano Girl RMG
It's a creative writing forum....

But you cheated! I definitely caught the word "piano" in your last post! Maybe even twice :-)

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#1731917 - 08/12/11 08:10 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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Posts: 19862
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Robin.. whipped cream in every square? that's how i ordered mine.. what heavenly bliss.
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#1732548 - 08/13/11 09:52 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
Jeff Clef Offline
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Registered: 10/05/08
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Loc: San Jose, CA
Well, when in Rome...

After all, we would not wish to be looked upon with pity by the locals for our boorish behavior, or our ignorant and unwarranted disdain of the local customs, and if that means eating Belgian Waffles, just be glad it isn't snails or honey-dipped locusts or Laotian River Snakes, eaten with the heart still beating.

I believe Belgium is also rightly famous for chocolates. I wouldn't mind seeing them go toe-to-toe with Vienna some of these days, at least on TV. My doctor just told me to lose 20 pounds Or Else, but I can close my eyes and safely gaze upon the charming scene of Belgians serving hot pommes frite with freshly-made sauce mayonaisse. It seems I've been told they're served in paper cones, or something like that.
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#1732693 - 08/14/11 08:44 AM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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french fries with mayo really is a tad too 'indulgent'.

I wouldn't even try them.. even tho I'd eat whipped cream in every square any day, any time.
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#1732733 - 08/14/11 10:28 AM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: apple*]
Jeff Clef Offline
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Pot: Kettle; Kettle: Pot.

Today in Wedding History: "1880 – Construction of the Cologne Cathedral —Germany's most visited landmark" [and burial place of the Three Wise Men] "—was completed, 632 years after it had begun."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cologne_Cathedral
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#1733135 - 08/14/11 10:13 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Jeff Clef]
gdguarino Offline
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Registered: 09/20/07
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Loc: New York City
Originally Posted By: Jeff Clef
Well, Robin, much is being made of today's being the 100th birthday of comedienne Lucille Ball, but we can also say, "Happy Birthday, Old Sparky," for it is the anniversary of its first being used to electrocute bad people, in 1890. (Greg may have something to say about this, from his extensive stage experience and his many close brushes with this hazard.) Why, electricity itself had barely been discovered, and grounded outlets and the GFI were well in the future.


I seem to remember being taught that Edison, a champion of DC power, tried to associate the AC system of his rival Westinghouse with electrocution. Edison even tried to verbify his competitor's name, referring to the execution method as "Westinghousing". The ploy didn't work, of course. AC won out.

I think that being electrocuted on a ShowMobile would be more of an annoyance than a death sentence, the penal equivalent of a five-watt bulb. We did do an outdoor show recently with a big, modern generator that might have been up to the task, but executions are no longer considered family fare. Political correctness and all.

Back in my youth, when you got a good honest volt for your money, things were different. This is also back when "plastic" still meant "junk". Quality construction required metal; strong, gleaming, electrically conductive metal. My Dad liked woodworking, and had a workshop full of chrome-plated potential shock hazards with two-prong plugs. (I recently "appropriated" one of his old sanders; It might not be "double grounded", but what a beautiful, solid tool it is)

Our amplifiers were built the same way. They tended to have tubes in them then, and those sometimes ran on higher voltages than even came out of the wall socket. The chrome face-plate was attached to your guitar strings by a nice low-resistance run of six-nines (99.9999% pure) copper wire. Your microphone was similarly connected, but usually to a different system.

None of that would necessarily cause a shock, but it did mean that any electrical problem would be transmitted to the musicians with great efficiency. The most likely scenario was touching a microphone and your guitar strings at the same time. As you would most likely touch the microphone with your lips while gripping the guitar with a sweaty hand, this could be a truly transformative experience.

I played a Fender Rhodes back then, and used an Ampeg tube amp. The original Fender Rhodes Stage 73 models were completely passive; they required no power to operate them. Much like an electric guitar, the "electronics" consisted of a long string of 73 separate pickups, one for each key. These converted the vibration of the "tines" inside into a signal to be sent to the amplifier.

The keys were plastic, and all of the outer surfaces if the instrument were either plastic or covered in vinyl ... except for a narrow aluminum panel that ran along the backs of the keys. This was also the panel that housed the output jack and the volume and tone knobs.

Anyone past a certain level of playing develops a "feel" for where to touch the keys. No one deliberately plays near the back edges. But sometimes you reach for a particularly wide chord. And back then I was experimenting with some percussive playing; I was every bit as funky as a seventeen year-old white boy should be.

The combination of a wide chord and a hard hit would occasionally bring my middle finger in contact with that aluminum plate. I can remember a night when all the conditions lined up perfectly. I played one of my funky chords just as I leaned into the microphone to let loose a similarly soulful vocal wail.

For one very long moment I was in a Science Fiction movie, several of them, in fact. I made the jump to hyperspace, had galaxies whipping by at light-speed, crossed the event horizon and briefly visited 1955 in my Fender DeLorean. I also nearly fell off my stool. The planned "soulful wail" came out more like "Unhnhnhnhnhnhn", amplified with full fidelity and effects through the system.

While that wasn't the first time I'd gotten a shock, not nearly, I never forgot to test the shock potential before a gig after that. Ah, the good old days. I haven't really thought about that in ages. Even our bass player, who also uses a microphone, doesn't seem to have any problems. I guess grounding and safety have been improved since the '70s.

Going even further back, the guitarist in my very first band and I decided to build stage lights from scratch. We would probably have been 13.

We built two low-slung boxes out of '60s wall paneling and glued aluminum foil (yes really) inside to reflect the light. We found a bunch of ceramic bulb sockets in a jar in my Dad's garage, screwed them into the boxes and wired up lamp cord to the little exposed screws. There were four bulbs in each unit, one each of blue, red, yellow and green.

We were already tempting fate, but didn't stop there. We decided we needed to be able to switch the different colors on and off remotely. We found two electrical boxes and screwed them together. We mounted four switches and four outlets in the boxes and then went about guessing how one might wire them up. I find myself wondering where we got all that stuff, but no one threw anything out back then, certainly not either of our Dads.

The fourth try was the charm. Each of he first three resulted in Danny's basement being plunged into blackness. Luckily he knew how to change a fuse. I also remember that day as the very first (and second) time I ever got an electrical shock. It took all day, but we thought those lights were the coolest thing ever.

Thinking back on this, a couple of things come to mind. The first is that kids our age had quite a bit more unsupervised free time than would be typical today.

The second is almost on-topic; there's something about playing music that leads to adventures, odd occurrences and lots of story fodder. We're all pretty lucky, I think.
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#1734993 - 08/17/11 10:37 AM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
Jeff Clef Offline
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Registered: 10/05/08
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Loc: San Jose, CA
So satisfying, Greg. Thanks for the story. I built one of those lightboxes when I was a teenager, and yet lived. My production of a cutting from Spoon River Anthology, lighted with this risky device, got me into the Thespian Society in spite everything a mean Drama and Debate teacher could do to keep me out, but I did not discover rock concerts until it was too late

I just noticed this sig line, from our member, Tweedpipe:

"Doctors have just identified a food that can cause grief and suffering years after it's been eaten. It's called wedding cake!"

The troops of mourners turned out once again at Graceland yesterday, to mark the unfortunate passing of Elvis. And yet, there are more Elvises today than ever before. But I risk certain death at the hands of my aunt, a hope-to-die Elvis fan and more dangerous than Old Sparky ever was, if I say more...

Cologne Cathedral's anniversary led me to a link about the reliquary of the Three Wise Men--- and all along, I thought that was the biggest whopper in the world, spun up out of thin air by Robin when she couldn't think of anything else to say to Bill Clinton. Admirably quick thinking on her feet, I supposed. And effective, too, for it caught his attention just as it started to stray. So in a way it doesn't matter that Empress Helena found so many pieces of the True Cross, its Nails, the Spear, the Shroud, the location of the Holy Sepulchre itself, the Original Manger, and so many, many more things, on a medieval shopping trip to the Holy Land (1000 years later, mind you), that her biography doesn't even mention the mummified Magi, and how they traveled from Iran to Milan to Cologne. This is the kind of story that's better than true.

And In Other Elvis News:

Contender for Captain of the Nuclear Club, Michele Bachman, made an on-the-air Elvis error that even Fox News couldn't stomach: she confused the date of Elvis' birth, January 8, with the date of his decease: yesterday. Commentators said that she "embarrassed her campaign." It was a picture, watching her wave her arms as she yelled out, "Happy birthday, Elvis!" and tried to gin the crowd up to sing 'Happy Birthday To You.'

"She was a girl," as Mae West remarked, "who climbed the ladder of success, wrong by wrong." Bachman may not know when Elvis's birthday is (or perhaps she doesn't know the difference between birth and death), but what a perfect way to observe the birthday of Mae West, August 17, 1893.

Was it not enough for the King's memory to bear, that his daughter married Michael Jackson?

"...a food that can cause grief and suffering years after it's been eaten. It's called wedding cake!"

The error has been long corrected, if not yet lived down. Yet smarty-pants still crack jokes at Elvis' expense. One of my favorite scenes on "The Golden Girls" saw Dorothy thrown out of the Elvis Fan Club that was meeting in her own living room, when she laughed at a porkchop preserved in Lucite, bearing Elvis' own toothmarks.

"This is a fake," she scoffed. "It has to be."

"But why?"

"Elvis would never leave that much meat on a porkchop!"


Sorry. I still laugh. Maybe that's why the show is still on the air. Better yet, Betty White got mixed up and sent all the wedding invitations to Elvis impersonators instead of to the guests. So the set was full of twenty or so Elvises of every ilk, who not only conducted the ceremony but sang for it as well.

Fade to denture adhesive commercial.


Edited by Jeff Clef (08/17/11 11:49 PM)
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#1736372 - 08/19/11 07:28 AM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Jeff Clef]
gdguarino Offline
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Registered: 09/20/07
Posts: 317
Loc: New York City
Originally Posted By: Jeff Clef
I built one of those lightboxes when I was a teenager, and yet lived.


Really? I wonder how many other budding performers dabbled in amateur electrical work.

"And yet [we] lived" is about the most optimistic spin you could put on our most recent gig. I'm sure I'll be able to spin it into a funny story someday, but the proper perspective hasn't set in yet.

We had all manner of sound and electrical problems which I'm sure made us sound like crap when they didn't stop us in our tracks altogether.

At our age and after this many gigs you don't often get to call something a "first", but this is the first time I ever heard of smoke, actual smoke, coming out of a speaker. The park staff happened to have a set of PA speakers that we could use for the rest of the gig. We played an instrumental ("Pipeline", by the Ventures) while they got them set up. Apart from that, the highlight of the evening was driving home.

Oh well. There's always the next time to look forward to. That's tonight, indoors, which should make for fewer surprises.
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#1740320 - 08/25/11 11:04 AM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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Registered: 08/09/11
Posts: 15
Loc: Belgium-Brussels
Arf... I KNEW I was born too late... I would have love to live the 60-70's ! :-)

Very funny to see that Robin just came to my country a few days ago.

Haaa french fries... and mayonnaise ! Food for your soul !

Next time that any member comes to Belgium, let's organize something !
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#1740476 - 08/25/11 04:53 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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Registered: 10/05/08
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"...but this is the first time I ever heard of smoke, actual smoke, coming out of a speaker... Apart from that, the highlight of the evening was driving home. Oh well. There's always the next time to look forward to. That's tonight, indoors, which should make for fewer surprises."

Oh, never say that, Greg. You are just daring the universe. Why, just think back to some of your own stories (you may have forgotten, but I never will). And as for the speakers catching fire--- bands pay a lot of money to the fx guys so that very thing will happen, though it sometimes does get out of hand. Just look at Sacre du Printemps. Maybe we could call this set piece Afterburn of August. Or something.

It would seem unnecessary to mention the earthquake and the hurricane (and that unfortunate collapse of the stage on a windy day last week, which gave the fans elements of both at once).

Welcome to the thread, Maverick Piano. You've come to the right place; I can tell you already feel right at home. Maybe you can tell us the true story about french fries and mayonnaise in Bruxelles, since Apple has scoffed

And in Still More Elvis News:

Happy birthday, Elvis Costello: August 25, 1954. His studio performance with Burt Bacharach a few years ago was one of those lightning bolts that should have set my television on fire; maybe a breaker tripped in time somewhere, for it didn't happen. It takes a Greg, it would seem.

Robin will be back at home in the castle before we know it. I find it a stretch to believe she will bring back a story as colorful as that of her vacation last year, in Ireland, at a mental asylum which had been remodeled into a B&B. The address was still 'Mental Hospital Road,' and as I look around the neighborhood, I think more people ought to be having a vacation there.

Present company excluded, of course.



Edited by Jeff Clef (08/25/11 04:55 PM)
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#1740823 - 08/26/11 06:15 AM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
MaverickPiano Offline
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Registered: 08/09/11
Posts: 15
Loc: Belgium-Brussels
French fries and mayonnaise are available at every corner in Belgium juste like fish and chips in the UK.

I have to say that belgian people are really heavy drinker and heavy eater : whenever we welcome a friend at home, he tells us that he never ate and drank so much in his life ! :-)

What you must try coming in Belgium :

- Beer : more than 300 different sorts (Try one of the Trappiste... its an abbey-beer)
- Abbey-Cheese : beer would feel sooo lonely without the cheese
- Mussels with...french fries and... beer ! :-))))
- Chocolate (especially Pralines from Godiva or Wittamer)

Did I mention the beer ? ;-)
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#1740845 - 08/26/11 07:36 AM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: MaverickPiano]
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Posts: 19862
Loc: Kansas
Originally Posted By: MaverickPiano
Arf... I KNEW I was born too late... I would have love to live the 60-70's ! :-)



Nice to see a new face..(as if)

I wish I lived in Greenwich village in the 60s (and 70s).
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#1742047 - 08/28/11 01:04 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Jeff Clef]
gdguarino Offline
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Loc: New York City
Originally Posted By: Jeff Clef
"...but this is the first time I ever heard of smoke, actual smoke, coming out of a speaker... Apart from that, the highlight of the evening was driving home. Oh well. There's always the next time to look forward to. That's tonight, indoors, which should make for fewer surprises."

Oh, never say that, Greg. You are just daring the universe.


True enough. That night went off quite well nonetheless. There was one noteworthy item, though. There was a couple there - "couple" is really not the right word, but the right word probably doesn't exist - who drew quite a bit of attention.

He is well into his seventies, perhaps 12 years in. He dances, and walks, so as never to move his feet more than two inches horizontally or 1/4" vertically.

She is more difficult to describe. She is roughly half his age and reminds me of a camel; not that she bears any resemblance to a camel, but she does appear to have been designed by a committee. A committee that meets at "Gentlemen's" clubs.

It's as if someone assembled a car from all of the showiest parts without considering how they might fit together. With apologies to "South Pacific", where she's narrow, she is narrower than an arrow, and broader than a broad should be broad where a broad allegedly oughta be broad. Her proportion of hair size to head size is roughly the same as on a Barbie doll.

Her clothes ...

Let me stop for a moment. I may have given the impression that I have played in a lot of dives. That was true, but mostly back in my impressionable years. These days there are more restaurants than bars and most are pretty nice. This place is especially so. The clientele is mostly forties-and-up suburban. There are, to be sure, a few High-School-Prom dresses on women of a certain age, but all in all a respectable crowd.

Back to her clothes. Have you ever heard someone snipe "She dresses like a hooker"? Probably they mean something is too high, or too low or too...something, but you would have no trouble distinguishing the woman being trashed from an actual "professional". Not so in this case.

I think an eight year old could wear this matching shorts and halter ensemble to the beach (and in the same size) without causing a scandal, but not with the six inch heels.

As for her dancing, I am going to have to warn you not to apply the usual "hyperbole readjustment factor" as you read this. I'm no slouch at exaggeration, but it simply isn't possible in this case.

I once saw Marcel Marceau give, of all things, a lecture. He demonstrated many of his techniques, including things like pretending to walk up a flight of (nonexistent) stairs. It was truly amazing. With only his movements, he made us "see" stairs, a rope and much more.

When "Barbie" danced you could "see" the metal pole. It was eerie. She kicked her heels up over her head, squatted down nearly to the floor, whirled around and managed to look detached (and a little frightening) at the same time. And thi while her "date" toddled a little 4" circle in place.

So I'm sure you're thinking this old codger hired a hooker/exotic dancer for the night. And that may indeed be the case. But the kicker is that we've seen the two of them before, more than once, and at a different place.

There was no shortage of speculation among the onlookers, but it's till a mystery to me.
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#1742172 - 08/28/11 05:13 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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"...And as for the speakers catching fire--- bands pay a lot of money to the FX guys so that very thing will happen, though it sometimes does get out of hand...."

Pardon me for quoting my own post! But maybe this lady was just trying to show that there is more than one way to set a nightclub on fire.

You know, Real Second Housewives actually take lessons in pole dancing these days--- so says the buzz, anyway. Has Wedding Jeopardy blown its way up the East Coast with the fury of a Category Two tempest? "And the answer is: Streetwalker Barbie." But I believe the Category already is on the board: "A Skanky Slut Stole My Love." Which I stole, I admit, from a Mad TV send-up of The Jerry Springer Show. I guess Hurricane Barbie got the drop on The Weather Channel, for in all their breathless storm coverage they never mentioned her name once. Maybe she was too uncovered for their coverage.

"...I may have given the impression that I have played in a lot of dives...."

Well, ok. Since you say so yourself. I see nothing wrong with it, and at least the afternoon sun isn't blazing into the performers' eyes. I've got to tell you, that old guy gives me hope that the wrong side of seventy may not be all that bad. Who knows, maybe he got tired of taking his first wife to yet another performance of Rhapsody in BlueHair somewhere respectable and uptown.

Anyway, if he's not ashamed to be seen with her, I'm not ashamed to look. Maybe she's the secret love child of Tempest Storm and--- whoops, I was about to give away the all-important Wedding Jeopardy Question. And the Lightning Round, too. Whether the lady in question is with the young gentleman on the installment plan or via an ironclad prenup, we'll let the first wife's private detective agency find out. Who knows, maybe they just like each other.

Ok, hurricane jokes aside, and as seriously as I'm able, I hope our forum buddies and their pianos made it through the storm ok.

Dateline Newport: MSNBC had footage of an actual wedding reception in progress, rocking out on a yacht as the big storm bore straight down. I did not see any coverage mentioning whether they made it. I take it for a good sign, otherwise it would have been the lead story on every channel and the headline of every newspaper.
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#1742237 - 08/28/11 07:17 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Jeff Clef]
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Originally Posted By: Jeff Clef

Ok, hurricane jokes aside, and as seriously as I'm able, I hope our forum buddies and their pianos made it through the storm ok.

Ah, I knew I forgot something.

It rook nearly forty years of playing gigs, but I finally found out what it takes to cancel an outdoor show ahead of time: A hurricane 600 miles in diameter.

As I'm sure I've mentioned, the people who decide such things don't pack gear, don't drive a long way to the venue and (especially) don't have any of their own valuable assets in the path of the storm. "We'll wait and see". "We're gonna see if we can get it in". "In the 22 years we've been doing this concert, it's never rained".

My house is not near any bodies of water, but our street is downhill from the rest of the neighborhood and the drainage is poor. There have been times when the water got to calf height on our street. Once a little even came into the house.

I spent all day yesterday battening down the hatches, caulking, building plywood "dams" for the doorways, taking in a window air conditioner, tying down and/or moving outdoor items indoors, getting out the Shop Vac and much more.

Now that the storm has (mostly) passed, I can say that I have never been more pleased to have wasted my time. For whatever reason, the water never built up much on our street, and everything else held up well. Despite almost complete neglect on our part, our Magnolia tree survived also.

In less than a week, NY City has experienced an earthquake and a hurricane. Experts differ on what will be next. Locusts? Pestilence? I'm sure Pat Robertson has something to say about it.
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#1743210 - 08/30/11 12:18 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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I love the "Barbie" story, Greg. In the genteel South we would say "Bless their hearts!" laugh

Short report on a wedding I attended a week ago: It was the wedding of our former nanny, and it was well-attended by many of her previous babysitting charges. I was quite relieved at the end of the night to note that my son was the best-behaved child there. Of course, he was older than the other kids by at least 5 years, but I take my maternal victories where I can. thumb

Christine was a violinist, so she chose a string quartet for her musical accompaniment rather than piano. They did an excellent job for the pre-ceremony festivities (good ol' air on a G string, naturally, and a very nice arrangement of "Simple Gifts", among others). The ceremony itself hit a couple of snags, unfortunately. Chris had enlisted two of her previous clients as flower girl and ring bearer. The girl, maybe 5 or 6 years old, was absolutely adorable and stole the scene. (Note to future brides: Don't pick a flower girl who is too precious for words, or you may be upstaged.) The flower girl was enthusiastic about her role, perhaps too enthusiastic as luck would have it, as she emptied her basket of rose petals all in the first two steps. The videographer thus faced the challenge of keeping the camera steady while pantomiming to the young girl that she should simply pretend to sprinkle petals for the remainder of the trip down the aisle.

But the ring bearer displayed the opposite and much more serious problem of too *little* enthusiasm for his appointed task. He was younger, maybe 3 at the oldest, and he totally quailed when he saw the assorted audience looking at him. He stood there, scared out of his wits, shaking his head "no" vehemently when the wedding planner, photographer, parents, and finally wedding guests urged him to start walking down the aisle. Finally his dad snuck up and tried to guide him down the aisle by the arm, at which point the little tyke flopped down on his tummy right in middle of the aisle. After a few more anxious moments, his parents got him upright and convinced him to walk on down the aisle, but the damage was already done. When the bride was finally able to make her way down the aisle, the string quartet, which had been playing the ol' reliable "Canon in D," ran out of cannon fodder and concluded their playing, leaving the hapless bride finishing the last half of the walk up the aisle in dead silence.

Now, I am not a professional musician, so it is perhaps churlish of me to criticize the quartet, but surely a group that is used to playing together and performing publicly should've been able to grasp the situation and keep playing, don't you think? And if there is any piece in the world that is conducive to a little creative repetition of a theme here and there, wouldn't it be Pachelbel??
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#1746483 - 09/04/11 08:47 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
Jeff Clef Offline
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Well, we've all given it our best. Greg, Monica, Apple, everyone. I whipped up a post on Pachelbel's birthday, trying my very best to tempt Robin to come back from her vacation--- and, what do you know, I hit the wrong button (perhaps through sleepiness) and my nice post went to e-mail heaven.

I thought, "Well, I have the notes, maybe I can bring it back." But the Muses weren't having it. Clio, Thalia, Erato, Euterpe, Polyhymnia, Calliope, Terpsichore, Urania, Melpomene: "No." Or, "Not now." Though I am thinking, portraits of each would be a good scheme for redecorating my music room. Focus the attention on the emblems of greatness, and "The mind, like a colorless jewel, takes on the qualities of whatever it is placed upon."

The judges decisions are final. And Robin may, just, need her vacation... or maybe Platinum Weddings has tempted her to do a turn on television for a big pile of money. Better yet, maybe she's filming a special with Marian McPartland for BBC America, hmmm, History of Nightclubs, at last. That would be some great television; they'd be rerunning that forever.

Not being in demand for weddings (though I have been invited to another one), I have my hands full with Two and Three-Part Inventions, Collected Works of Scott Joplin (with some Joseph Lamb thrown in, but with the tangos set aside for now), and Grieg's Lyric Pieces. And a few odds and ends--- more odd than end, of course. The dentist is getting all my money for a good while--- you would think I was a crash test dummy, but no.

I miss you, Robin. Hope things are well. Maybe you're doing a few little concerts here and there, just to fill out the season: Vienna, Monte Carlo, Paris, St. Petersburg, Prague, Nice, Lisbon, etc. Oh--- and Bruxelles. And I want a full report on that one.


PS-
Oh--- did I say Lisbon? I meant Milan.


Edited by Jeff Clef (09/05/11 06:31 PM)
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#1748769 - 09/08/11 09:21 AM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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I listened to one of my favorite songs this morning (my memory jostled by a post from another forum).,. and thought of you and your father Robin..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxgWHzMvXOY
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#1749016 - 09/08/11 05:27 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: apple*]
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I've recently returned from vacation myself, although it didn't include any of Clef's exotic destinations. We went to Maine, specifically Acadia National Park. If you like rocks, especially big rocks piled into steep cliffs that are pounded by waves 24 hours a day, this is your kind of place. Trees? They've got as many of those as you could want as well, many clinging to small amounts of soil on the aforementioned rocks.

There wasn't much musical content on this trip, but I have a couple of mildly interesting tidbits to relate.

On the drive back toward home we passed a small house with a fairly nondescript sign "WERU Community Radio, 89.9 FM". We had decided to take Route 1 rather than the Interstate, so we went through a lot of small towns.

We generally listen to Satellite radio (XM) on these trips, but on a lark, I decided to try out the station whose "headquarters" we had apparently just passed. It was a nice clear signal and we had stumbled on a combination Acadian/Cajun music show. What great music to drive to! Hand-slappin' foot-tappin' fun.

I think the same mindset that led us to take the slower road was involved in the decision to try out a radio station based on the size of the building it was housed in. Good luck follows such choices surprisingly often.

If someone asked you to invent an instrument to mimic bagpipes, but using an entirely different mechanism, you could hardly do better than a Hurdy-Gurdy. We ran across a guy in Portsmouth (New Hampshire) playing 18th century folk hits on what looked to be a brand new instrument.

I got a better look at it than I've had a chance to before, and I asked him a few questions as well. It's got a crank-powered wooden wheel maybe 5" in diameter that "bows" three strings. Apparently it is just a wooden surface with some rosin on it. Two of the strings are drones, tuned to a fifth.

The third goes through a long wooden box with buttons on the side that "stop" the string at different points. This is the melody string. It seems that he could push the buttons in a little harder to "bend" the note a bit.

As the instrument sits on the players lap, and is driven with a hand crank, there is a cyclic variation in both the pitch and volume, sort of akin to a vinyl record whose hole is a little off-center. (you youngsters can ask your parents)

But that's not quite all. As the string sound is not quite as, it must be said, assaulting to the ear as bagpipes, there is a small "buzz" string that is attached to one of the others. This adds a certain wax-paper/comb (kids, ask your parents again) or mbira-like buzz to the output.

It's quite a contraption, but like the joke about the singing dog, it's more impressive that it works at all than to actually listen to.

I took hundreds of photos in Maine, as is my general habit. Only 30 or so have found their way to Flickr so far.

Maine 2011 Photos

Rock, tree and ocean fanciers may want to have a look. More will follow as I separate the wheat from the chaff. I hope everyone had a good Summer.
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#1749039 - 09/08/11 06:05 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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Well, you lot have been busy bees. I had a lot of (fun) reading to catch up.

Speaking of St Helen and her miraculous finds (Jeff, I believe it was)... I lived in Milan for 5 years and currently live a mere 22 km outside of town.... Every 2nd Sunday in September we have the Festa del Satno Chiodo. The Feast of the Holy Nail.

Myth, legend, rumour - what you will - has it that ONE of the nails from the crucifixion, found by St. Helen, resides in the Duomo of Milano.

It seems that Helen gave the nail to her son Constantine, who used it as a bit for his horse's bridle. Seems quite sacreligious to me, but who am I to judge?

The nail somehow made its way to Milan (perhaps when the Edict of Milan (313A.D.), which made Christianity an accepted part of the Roman pantheon of religions, was published.
(Aside: - You can see a represenation of the edict on the northern-most doors of the Cathederal facade)

The nail is in the centre of a very large silver cross, and is illuminated.
The cross hangs above and slightly behind the main altar, close to the ceiling, which is....about 45 metres high.

On the day of the feast, 4-5 clergy form a procession and go to the back of the altar where they find the "nivola" (dialect for "nuvola", which means "cloud") which will take them up to the cross. In bygone days they were hoisted on high by brute strength and a crank. Nowadays it is electronically lifted, but it still takes about 15-20 minutes.

The cross is brought down (another 15-20 minutes) and displayed at the front of the main altar for a week, after which it is replaced.

They play lovely music during the ceremony. I've seen it twice.

Another bit of triva - linguistic this time....
...... Cathedral = a church which is the seat of a bishop.
From the Latin "cathedra" =easy chair/seat, and the Greek Kathedra = kata=down + hedra = seat/base/chair.
In Milanese dialect "cadrega" means "chair" but the cathedral is called the "Domm" coming from the Latin "domus" for house.
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#1749687 - 09/09/11 04:14 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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Greg, your photos were superb. I was trying to decide between the close-up of the gull and one of the crashing waves for my favorite, when the shot of the fallen/cut tree trunk flashed by--and it was absolutely stunning, better than many I've seen at art shows being sold for big money.

Your album made me want to go visit Maine, even though that water looked awfully cold. eek brrrr
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#1749695 - 09/09/11 04:23 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Monica K.]
gdguarino Offline
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Originally Posted By: Monica K.
Your album made me want to go visit Maine, even though that water looked awfully cold. eek brrrr

Thanks for the kind words. As for the water temperature, not to worry; you'd be dashed against the rocks and unconscious before the cold got to be a problem. shocked
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#1749704 - 09/09/11 04:36 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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Greg, great photos. I especially liked the one of the islands all scattered about, and the butterfly on the rock. This is the Maine I love. Glad you got to hear WERU; and took Route 1: much more interesting than 95. Did you take route 1 all the way back to New York, or eventually swing over to the interstate?
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#1750619 - 09/11/11 10:01 AM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: PianoStudent88]
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Originally Posted By: PianoStudent88
Did you take route 1 all the way back to New York, or eventually swing over to the interstate?


Oh no, we swung. Around Freeport, I think. But many years ago we took 1 all the way up to New Brunswick (from Augusta, I think). And we've been through some other sparse parts of Maine as well. We've driven home from Quebec (through Jackman) at least once and made an overnight visit to the Moosehead Lake area one other time.
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#1755212 - 09/19/11 10:04 AM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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we need an anecdote.

I was playing at my little Vietnamese Italian church on Saturday and during the first verse of the first song, the priest speaks...."Mary - Mary!.. let's try another song.. the people don't know this one.. How about Glory and Praise?"

No number or anything.. that was a first.. I had to look it up in an index about 10 feet from the organ, find the other book and start playing.

What a dear that priest is.
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#1755329 - 09/19/11 01:51 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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It is dear, and thoughtful. Maybe not so much for the organist. But so many clergy would just plow through the hymn. I hope "Fame and Glory" worked out better.

"At last, my love has come along/ The lonely nights are over,/ and life is like a song."

I am not referring to a hymn tune, of course, but to the anniversary of the opening of Tiffany & Co. on September 18, 1837. This is something no bride would overlook; I realize I'm carrying coals to Newcastle here. I have also realized it's no use trying to figure out who could say the word, "Tiffany's" the best, Audrey Hepburn or Marilyn Monroe? They may have to arm wrestle for the title, but I think Marilyn is going to be hard to top, since she sang it to music and danced, while intoning the sacred syllables. But, Audrey starred in a whole movie, and that is also hard to top.

But if we're talking about untoppable movies, there is The Loves of Hercules, starring our own Jayne Mansfield (who turned down the role of Ginger, and that's a 50-point advantage right there) and muscle-daddy Mickey Hargitay. Filmed in Italy, where they know hot when they see it, no studio has dared release it in the US to this very day.

Their love story is worth recalling:

"Hargitay's first film role came when Jayne Mansfield demanded he be cast in her newest film, "Will Success Spoil Rock Hunter?" (1957). The two met the year before at "The Mae West Show" at the Latin Quarter. When Jayne noticed Mickey performing, she told the waiter, "I’ll have a steak and that tall man on the left." The two fell head over heels in love and were never seen apart. They were married from 1958 to 1964. 20th Century Fox hated it that Mansfield saw Hargitay as her "only" lover. But when Jayne told the studio that she would turn the film down, they gave in.

"...Hargitay and Mansfield married on January 13, 1958. They had three children: Miklós, Zoltán, [and actress] Mariska. Mickey Hargitay remodeled much of his and Mansfield's Beverly Hills mansion, "The Pink Palace", building its famous heart-shaped swimming pool. In November 2002, the house was razed by developers."
Wiki: Hargitay

Sic transit gloria mundi.

And, speaking of love stories, glamorous marriages and sic transit etc, on September 18, 1982 the world marked the passing of Princess Grace, the only US film actress to be honored with a postage stamp (at that time). 100 million people, worldwide, saw her funeral on TV, at which Jimmy Steward said: "You know, I just love Grace Kelly. Not because she was a princess, not because she was an actress, not because she was my friend, but because she was just about the nicest lady I ever met. Grace brought into my life as she brought into yours, a soft, warm light every time I saw her, and every time I saw her was a holiday of its own. No question, I'll miss her, we'll all miss her, God bless you, Princess Grace." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Kelly

Sad, but wonderful, too.

As long as we're remembering the memorable, there's San Francisco's own Isadora Duncan, the revolutionary of the dance. Her story is too deliciously scandalous to recount, even here (so often true of dancers), but I hope the little snippet quoted will encourage people to do the look-up or read one of the books about her life:

"Isadora Duncan rejected traditional ballet steps to stress improvisation, emotion and the human form. Duncan believed that classical ballet, with its strict rules of posture and formation, was "ugly and against nature"; she gained a wide following that allowed her to set up a school to teach.

"Duncan became so famous that she inspired artists and authors to create sculpture, jewelry, poetry, novels, photographs, watercolors, prints and paintings of her. When the Théâtre des Champs-Élysées was built in 1913, her likeness was carved in its bas-relief over the entrance by sculptor Antoine Bourdelle and included in painted murals of the nine muses by Maurice Denis in the auditorium."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isadora_Duncan

And last, but far from least, there is Margaret Sanger, born September 14, 1879, an American sex educator, nurse, and birth control activist who all-but-singlehandedly wrestled both the church and the government to the mat to allow women the option to conceive--- or not. Brides will want to know about her! And maybe grooms, too. The lifelong struggle she waged brought forth the birth control pill, and revolutionized attitudes toward contraception.

Well, there are still some holdouts.

The timeline is highly fractured, but we could say in general that the pill became available around 1961 or 1965. Too late for Clara Schumann, born September 13, 1819, who made few bones about the fact that she would just as soon have stopped having children after the first couple... yet went on to bear eight. And that was the story of a woman's life until quite recently. You had to say, "Yes," to your husband whenever he wanted you, and that meant pregnancy after pregnancy, whether one could care for these kids, afford them, or educate them. It sounds incredible today; the woman who has gotten a TV series by virtue of bearing, I guess it's 19 children now, through it may be 20, seems freakish, and the Octomom is, according to public opinion polls, "The Most Hated Woman in America." And Medi-Cal paid for it.

Well anyway, Happy Birthday Margaret Sanger
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#1755689 - 09/19/11 10:59 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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Of course, Jonathan Swift had a modest proposal about how to deal with pregnancy after pregnancy.
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#1759510 - 09/26/11 09:22 AM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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a reviving post of sorts...

i played with my military, best friend,over managing, micromanaging conductor this weekend. Now she is trying to set my organ playing.. One needs a fluid and immediate ability to adjust and balance the crowd and space. Specifics are so inhibiting. just a little rant. i can't really look for a job until my driving restrictions are lifted (in two weeks.. hurray).

Had a great time at my little church tho. Old standards, my pavarotti tenor was in the congregation and all went well, until I accidentally turned on the bells during the last song. o well. this has happened before and I've yet to figure out what stop did this.

i'm getting my lovely piano tuned on Thursday. It's been a year and hardly needs tuning.

i stopped by a little church on the way home to see if they needed an organist for the 5.30 service.. (mine is at 4).. Two VERY heavy and rather old ladies were sitting at the electric piano, not rehearsing or talking about piano (they were talking about Myna's awful tuna casserole that she keeps bringing to potlucks).. and concluded that the awesome little pipe organ in the loft didn't get played enough. I'll send them a resume in the off chance that those two ladies really don't want to provide the music. It is a Mexican congregation and some of the Catholic Latino music is pretty awesome these days.

What have you all been doing?
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#1759799 - 09/26/11 04:16 PM Re: Let's Talk Weddings [Re: Piano Girl RMG]
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Apple, I just wanted to say congratulations on getting your license back soon and best of luck in securing new organs to play. I've been following (lurking on) this thread for some time now and I just enjoy so much "keeping up" with Piano Girl, Jeff Clef, and especially you! You all have a great way of writing--even seemingly mundane events sound just fascinating!
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