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#2051663 - 03/20/13 11:55 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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LarryShone, if you're willing to work from the command line, ffmpeg is a very powerful tool.

http://ffmpeg.org/download.html

Look for the FFmpeg Windows Builds, down the page.

Here are the commands I used to sync the video and audio files in one output mp4 file, in my last submission.

"C:\Users\User\Documents\ffmpeg-20130310-git-586ae70-win64-static\bin\ffmpeg.exe" -i "C:\Users\User\Videos\Piano\pianoLog\Yester131003.mp4" -an -itsoffset 00:00:04.5 -i "C:\Users\User\Videos\Piano\pianoLog\Yester131003b.mp3" -map 0:0 -map 1:0 "C:\Users\User\Videos\Piano\pianoLog\Yester131003sn.mp4"

pause

Just put this in a batch file (for example syncAudioVideo.bat) and run the batch file by clicking it. Note that the file and folder names are different on your computer.
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#2051690 - 03/21/13 01:08 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: BillM]
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Originally Posted By: BillM
Weiyan - this is a very pretty piece. Your phrasing is very good - you might consider a little lighter touch to let this lovely melody "breath" a little bit. Your playing gets better every month - you are obviously working at your music and it is paying off.


Thank you. Take your advice seriously. I hope to develop strong pulse with water flow melody.
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#2052015 - 03/21/13 03:19 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: SwissMS]
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SwissM - A tricky piece. I find it difficult to play chords like these with precision. Takes a long time to feel comfortable with. Your work now will be well rewarded in the future . . . good stuff! Enjoyed.
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#2052018 - 03/21/13 03:25 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: TromboneAl]
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I love the tinkling of the melody improvisation. Darned wish I could do that . . .must be fun playin` wi the other guys there! Yer piano was right good. What is it?
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#2052675 - 03/22/13 06:59 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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A bit o` fun . . .me setting up a video recording, etc . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eno1l1QMfjA

The final offering with both recordings (phone and piano onboard) operating but - slightly out of synch! Not many DPs have an echo function - mine has now!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnN3rj75WyU

And the one without echo, ie piano recorder operating only . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B9tncHezsE

Fun for an old fella heh heh
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#2052841 - 03/23/13 08:20 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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Weiyan - A lovely tune.
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#2053039 - 03/23/13 04:46 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: peterws]
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Peterws

Ah Inkspots. Terrific - and Smoke gets in your eyes is one of my all time favourite songs. Well played.

PS Interesting, you have a whole shelf above your piano not just a music holder. hmmm
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#2053067 - 03/23/13 05:55 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: Newman]
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Newman, I kick myself daily! That music stand (it`s located into the stand slot on the digital) could be a whole 6 inches wider . . . . !
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#2053099 - 03/23/13 07:00 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: peterws]
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Peterws - loved your Inkspots medley. We have similar taste in music as these are favorites of mine as well. I like your upbeat arrangement of Smoke Gets in Your Eyes. I also covered this here in the bar a few months ago but at a slower tempo - your arrangement is very well done. You do a wonderful job on these romantic ballads.
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#2053101 - 03/23/13 07:05 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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Weiyan~ Your playing is wonderful with The Moon Is My Heart arrangement. Excellent!

SwissMS ~ very nicely done! Great sense of time. Sounded to me like you were enjoying playing it.

PeterWS - that was a great arrangement of Smoke Gets In Your Eyes. You play with great precision and clarity.

I made this improvisation recording of a jazz standard (with virtual bass and drums) a few months ago and didn't to write down the name.

https://www.box.com/s/ldf4665vw2hko1psv45p

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#2053249 - 03/24/13 01:04 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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Inlanding.. that is a nice soothing sound.. very jazzy imho...

anyway.. before i post a recording, if i'm looking for more technical feedback of a not perfect recording, should i post here or create another post? Dont want to crowd the piano bar that sounds for more experienced players. So what's the norm? Thank you
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#2053266 - 03/24/13 02:31 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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ty.beginner, I've always felt if I can post here, anybody can. cool I know there are mistakes in my performances, and I don't mind if anybody tells me so. In fact I want to be told about that.

I don't think many of the people who post here feel they are at some level few can reach. Most consider themselves beginners, though they've been playing for many years. Nevertheless there are many quality pianists here, but they don't regard themselves as above everybody else.

What I mean is you can allow yourself to be human here and make mistakes.
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#2053294 - 03/24/13 06:27 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ty.beginner]
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ty.beginner - don`t worry about anything. Post if you feel ready. Your own feed back will tell you; recording and playback is a good way to improve things. And no matter how good you think you are, there`s loads who are better who`s brain you can pick . . . No matter how bad, there are loads who are worse who will improve to who knows what height?

But we all have a style which is unique. Nobody can emulate it. So go for it man; Have fun!!


Edited by peterws (03/24/13 06:28 AM)
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#2053301 - 03/24/13 07:04 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: peterws]
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thanx for the encouragement, this is the first piece i learned when i started learning piano from scratch. I've just started playing for around 6 months. But i think i've hit a dead end with this piece. I wanted to learn harmonics, but have no idea where to place them. It's not a perfect recording as there's no hiccups in it (but i seldom play flawlessly anyway). So any critiques are welcome. maybe some suggestion as to improvements as well smile

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#2053308 - 03/24/13 07:34 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ty.beginner]
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TromboneAl - You have a great singing voice. What a nice relaxed version of this classic. I enjoyed it!

Weiyan - Nice arrangement of Moon is my Heart. You gave it a nice feel.

peterws - I loved the echo effect that you created. It was a nice touch. I liked that version best.

Inlanding - Wonderful, soothing jazz and very nice improv. It kept my interest to see what you would come up with next. Very fun!

tv.beginner - Welcome to the piano bar! Your Cannon in D was very nicely done, especially for your first piece. You have a nice touch.
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#2053309 - 03/24/13 07:35 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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Thanks for the info above Theodor!
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#2053318 - 03/24/13 07:55 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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Love the Canon in D, ty.beginner smile
Try to play the melody a bit louder so it stands out more. It got drowned out a bit in the middle parts, especially with the long sustain in the chords.
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#2053391 - 03/24/13 10:43 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ty.beginner]
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Originally Posted By: ty.beginner
... I wanted to learn harmonics, but have no idea where to place them. ...


I like how you did this. I can see you're at a dead end for now. I hear you on using harmonics. Not sure how. One suggestion... What you and I want to play on this is actually a duet. Try recording the more stacatto painisimo notes in both hands. Then over the top of the recording...or you can use another track on the recorder (better). Add your harmonics with sustain. Follow your heart on the developing it. I hear the same development in this. I'm confident I'll end up with a duet. I can't figure out how else it can be done?


Edited by rnaple (03/24/13 10:44 AM)
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#2053414 - 03/24/13 11:21 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ty.beginner]
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I can see that `ll come along well with practice It is merely the passage of time. There`s a lot of resonance on the piano; is it time to back off a bit on the foot pedal, perhaps? I am always amazed to find this tune is hundreds of years old .. .
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#2053482 - 03/24/13 01:26 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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You're welcome Larry. If you try out ffmpeg, please let me know how it works out.
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#2053497 - 03/24/13 01:49 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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ty.beginner~ Welcome to the Piano Bar! Thank you for sharing your rendition of Canon in D. I can hear you are being careful to control the tempo and you do a great job of it - you have a very nice touch. If I were to recommend anything from the start it would be to use your sustain pedal with greater economy to allow the voices of the music to shine - you play them very well. Try playing/recording the entire piece without touching the pedal, then listen to your dynamics, etc. to get a better idea of how/when to use the pedal. I really look forward to hearing this piece again after it's matured under your fingers more. Great job on your first submission - keep 'em coming!

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#2053639 - 03/24/13 06:57 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ty.beginner]
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Originally Posted By: ty.beginner
thanx for the encouragement, this is the first piece i learned when i started learning piano from scratch. I've just started playing for around 6 months. But i think i've hit a dead end with this piece. I wanted to learn harmonics, but have no idea where to place them. It's not a perfect recording as there's no hiccups in it (but i seldom play flawlessly anyway). So any critiques are welcome. maybe some suggestion as to improvements as well smile

canon in d

Very nice, excellent first recording and I love that piece.
I like the ambience in the room too!
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#2053675 - 03/24/13 08:02 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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Ty.Beginner Great job on your first posting! Looking forward to listen to more from you. What version of Canon in D is it that you are playing here? It sounded great!

Inlanding Loved your jazz standard! Improvisations like this are a real treat!! Thanks for sharing. Your music is really inspiring!!

Peterws Great idea of posting a behind the scenes video like this!! It just shows how much goes into creating the lovely pieces that you create for us here. Great piano playing as always!!

Weyian Great job! Nice touch on the video with the sepia effect. And your action is covered up this time? The sounds turned out great anyway!!

TromboneAl Comments coming up… stay tuned. wink Great job! Loved it. You sing really well! Great band you have too!!

SwissMS Loved it!! Great that you widen the music styles that you play!! There are so many great jazz players here and perhaps you got inspired by them. The audio recording sounded just fine to me.
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#2053678 - 03/24/13 08:11 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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Saranoya, well done. Peterws, I liked the train video/playing. Also liked Inkspots, you make it appear easy to play, but I know it isn't.
Stumbler, good job on the Gershwin standard.
Glen, as usual your improvisations are great. The later one sounded a bit like Sinatra's The Lady Is a Tramp, which I tried to sing it at a karaoke last night. Didn't do very well actually. Jazz IS hard to play and sing, so many 7ths, 9ths, 11ths and even 13ths.
SwissMS, your jazz selection was also very well played.
TromboneAl, nicely done. Really liked playing and singing.
Weiyan, great job on The Moon Is My Heart. You've improved a lot. Impressive that you've memorized the song. The piano sounds pleasant and the audio is very clear. I usually listen to the submissions with a headphone, so I hear the details well. I didn't notice any hiss in your recording.
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#2053731 - 03/24/13 10:41 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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peterws: thank you for sharing about the technical of video recording. The piece in the demonstration is very good.
Inlanding: Very nice standard.
ty.begginer: Sharing is a sure way to improve. Cannon in D is well played. I am not an expert, can't give you much suggestion. There seems stress during the recording session, this is normal to most of us. We call this red light syndrome. Its not easy to overcome. Keep on posting.
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#2053746 - 03/24/13 11:27 PM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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Thank you for all those give me feedback and suggestions.

I am preparing next month's submission.

Bach's Minuet in D min. The playing is different from my previous Bach pieces. This piece is expressive and require the legato technique.

The another piece is Embracing Love, a theme song of a soap opera. I am pulling out the score from youtube. This may be somekind of play by ear.

This is my last submission this month: Love is Blue Melodian Cover


Thank you watching.
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#2053764 - 03/25/13 01:08 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: Weiyan]
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Originally Posted By: SwissMS

tv.beginner - Welcome to the piano bar! Your Cannon in D was very nicely done, especially for your first piece. You have a nice touch.


SwissMS: Thank you smile

Originally Posted By: Allard
Love the Canon in D, ty.beginner smile
Try to play the melody a bit louder so it stands out more. It got drowned out a bit in the middle parts, especially with the long sustain in the chords.


Allard: I will try smile the sustain is a big problem since i have no idea on how to learn it. hence i have a lead foot on the sustain most of the time.

Originally Posted By: rnaple
Originally Posted By: ty.beginner
... I wanted to learn harmonics, but have no idea where to place them. ...


I like how you did this. I can see you're at a dead end for now. I hear you on using harmonics. Not sure how. One suggestion... What you and I want to play on this is actually a duet. Try recording the more stacatto painisimo notes in both hands. Then over the top of the recording...or you can use another track on the recorder (better). Add your harmonics with sustain. Follow your heart on the developing it. I hear the same development in this. I'm confident I'll end up with a duet. I can't figure out how else it can be done?


thanx rnaple. I'm sorry but i dont really get what you mean by duet. Is that recording two different times and then trying to blend them together via post processing the mp3s? i can't keep the same tempo at 2 different playing which is a big problem for this technique. thank you for the idea though smile

Originally Posted By: peterws
I can see that `ll come along well with practice It is merely the passage of time. There`s a lot of resonance on the piano; is it time to back off a bit on the foot pedal, perhaps? I am always amazed to find this tune is hundreds of years old .. .


This tune is my main motivator to learn the piano smile and you got me with the foot pedal. As that is my biggest concern now. I have no idea on when to use it as in the section that needs it. The moment i use it for some section, the sections i left it out feel so shallow if you know what i mean. I'm still searching the web for tips, helps on the pedal to see if something clicks. So far, i've come up with nothing frown

Originally Posted By: Inlanding
ty.beginner~ Welcome to the Piano Bar! Thank you for sharing your rendition of Canon in D. I can hear you are being careful to control the tempo and you do a great job of it - you have a very nice touch. If I were to recommend anything from the start it would be to use your sustain pedal with greater economy to allow the voices of the music to shine - you play them very well. Try playing/recording the entire piece without touching the pedal, then listen to your dynamics, etc. to get a better idea of how/when to use the pedal. I really look forward to hearing this piece again after it's matured under your fingers more. Great job on your first submission - keep 'em coming!

Glen


Thank you Glen. So many people caught my weakness on the first recording smile i'm glad for the critique. I'm still learning via researching the web on the pedal information. However nothing so far clicks yet. I will play around with the pedal and hopefully come up with something.

Originally Posted By: LarryShone
Very nice, excellent first recording and I love that piece.
I like the ambience in the room too!


Thanx Larry. The ambience is due to not having a good mic smile i'm using my android phone for the recording.

Originally Posted By: Amaruk
Ty.Beginner Great job on your first posting! Looking forward to listen to more from you. What version of Canon in D is it that you are playing here? It sounded great!


Amaruk I found this version from http://www.onlinepianist.com/songs/piano_tutorials/1266/Pachelbels-Canon-Johann-Pachelbel.php . I have no idea where they come up with the arrangement from since the original canon i believe is not for piano.

Originally Posted By: Weiyan

ty.begginer: Sharing is a sure way to improve. Cannon in D is well played. I am not an expert, can't give you much suggestion. There seems stress during the recording session, this is normal to most of us. We call this red light syndrome. Its not easy to overcome. Keep on posting.


Weiyan: Thank you. I hope to post more. At the rate i'm learning things though, It'll be an achievement by itself if i can post 3 to 4 pieces a year. My last piece took me 3 months to memorize and another month to increase the tempo to a very low standard. I'm still not happy with some sections of it even till now.
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#2053793 - 03/25/13 03:30 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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Syncopated pedalling should work here, ty. It's relatively easy to do. Press down the sustain pedal during the first note of a chord. Keep it down while you play the rest of the chord. When you start the next chord, release the pedal and immediately press it down again, before you release the first note of the second chord. Repeat with every chord. This way, no more than one chord should be sounding at any time.

You could practice it on single notes first:
Press D, pedal down, release D, press A, pedal up, pedal down, release A, press B, pedal up, pedal down, release B, etc.
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#2053811 - 03/25/13 05:32 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne]
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Meant to include ty.beginner's submission in my review, but forgot to. Well done, ty.beginner, keep up the good work.
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#2053871 - 03/25/13 08:52 AM Re: March Piano Bar [Re: Inlanding]
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Inlanding - this is way cool! You have such a wonderful laidback style of playing. The piano is front and center but not overpowering - this is a professional quality effort although the ending was a bit abrupt.
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