Let me chew on it.

By the way - if they ever decide to adapt the ES7 translucent stand for other products:

1) check the angle of the stand. I think the way it fits on the ES is nice, but it could be a more upright (bends just a bit too much backward for comfortable reading). Minor detail - but if they adjust the legs anyway - it's easy to change that too.

3) Putting a music stand in the middle of the piano , like on your GIF is not a good idea. The great thing about the VPC is the room you have on the surface to put extra controls , or an extra (flat) keyboard on it. Therefore the current position is the right one IMHO, although a bit farther away than ideal.

3) If (bigger if and only just in case) the whole stand gets redesigned it could also be a bit higher - making it easier to put loose sheets on it , without having them bending backwards over de top of the music stand. Loose sheets have no solidity of themselves , so they need as much support as they can get. Of course you can put a plate , or book behind them, but nevertheless. Better have it all perfect in one run and be done with it.

My CA63 has these holders (now I fitted them).

Similar holders are standard factory built-in on my Roland HP-307.
They make up for the fact that there is no ledge at the front edge of the music desk like on the Kawai RX-2.

The Kawai DPs do have a small ledge at the front, but it can't cope with a big book which wants to shut itself all the time.

Please don't forget to mention the requests for a decent PIANO stand (was amply repeated here above and in other topics too).

VPC is the most stylish beast of his kind, it would be a pity for this project to leave the product as torso.

You have referred to the "other part" of ourselves (men) was aimed with this stylish noble design - but a stylish stand a la ES7 would be the first thing to satisfy her. (What about ladies here among us? ) Or are Your R%D planning a stand with cabinet features a la Physis stand with boxes too? Or for a solution for fixable/removable pedal unit?)

ES7 had it from the very first appearance, hadn't it?

It will be just interesting to see how long will it take to bring such supplements to the market from decision? 1 Month, 3 Month?

My Clav's music stand can't compare to the one on my old Kawai US-50. Here's a video I found on You Tube.

And besides that, for those who would be willing to pay extra, you have provided a number of possible solutions.

+100!!! I couldn't agree more....

K.

It's strange, I read all the comments and I wonder if I am the only one to find it wonderful to have room in front of the music stand to put a computer keyboard. If I order the VPC1, it will be in front of my computer because I also use electronic music sheets and it will most certainly be wonderful to have both option (paper and electronic) accessible while still keeping the computer keyboard (and mouse) accessible. While I agree that it would be handy to be able to put a four sheet wide partition on it (like on a "real" piano), I haven't seen many stage piano with that kind of stand.

The VPC-1 is not a stage piano but a virtual piano controller from a real piano company....

Well, for all intent and purpose, the VPC1 is master keyboard and as such can be seen as both, a "home" piano and a stage piano due to it's format (Objectively, in it's presentation, the VPC is more similar to the MP10 than the C95)

@ Jean-Luc ; read my earlier post. No intention to push for a middle / front stand. Position is right, type and build not.

Perhaps this is KAWAI's official solution:

New KAWAI CA-15

Since this thread is accumulating a number of data points for user preferences on music rests for the VPC-1, I'd like to add mine (without wishing to pile on Kawai James in any way):

I would also wish for a larger and more robust music rest (a la the ES7's) for the VPC-1. I find myself needing to prop up everything from bound manuscript to handwritten lead sheets to loose SheetMusicPlus printouts to iPads. The MP-10 music rest doesn't reach the level of quality and functionality which the VPC-1 otherwise embodies, IMHO.

It would be fine with me if an improved music rest were an extra-cost option. I remember buying a surprisingly expensive optional music rest for a Kurzweil keyboard I owned a while ago--I didn't flinch at the price because it was such a great convenience.

By coincidence, I sold my trusty old Roland HP207 today, and I'm looking forward to auditioning the VPC-1.

Here you are, Kawaiers, it's already done! Just make it detachable and reclining backwards, and sell it as an accesory. Be shure to overprice it in order to keep Kawai's admin. council members fortune increasing.
Meanwhile, I'll memorize all the DP brands and models that don't offer rests at all.
Sincerely yours,

A CUSTOMER.

Are y`all ready for the Vulgar Solution?


http://www.flickr.com/photos/90596869@N06/8529127520/

Brilliant solution! Did you make this yourself?

Cheers,

K.

How on earth did ya see it? I thought it was a one click shot. Hope this is

http://flic.kr/p/dZG1sL

HOORRAYYYYY!!!!!!! I`ve achieved something today!! The short link on Fickr actually works!!

The VPC1 looks really interesting. I like that it has no wheels, so it isn't any wider than it needs to be. I wonder if it will fit in the cabinet I made for my Casio PX-120. Have they published the exact dimensions anywhere?

joflah, please try here:

http://www.kawaivpc.com/specifications

Cheers,
James
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Thanks, James.

Well, unfortunately, it's 2 inches too wide. But if those side caps can come off without breaking anything, it should fit. Now, I wonder if anyone actually has one in stock?
BTW, the figure for depth, 42.5 cm, is incorrectly converted to inches as 17 3/4". It should be 16.73".

joflah, the side panels can be removed, however I wouldn't recommend doing so because they're need to hold the VPC1 together.



Ah, well spotted, thank you!
I fixed the error.

Cheers,
James
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I agree that the music rack of the MP10 doesn't fit MY personal needs. But I wasn't excpecting much more on a stage DP. My previous one simply didn't have any!
On the other hand, I didn't chose my DP on this particular spec (I rather concentrated on sound and keyboard feel). But that's ok, there are solutions.
How about that?

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byad-kOz7gKgXzBSN1RTSzRqZTg/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Byad-kOz7gKgSzZmMFg1R1c0VEE/edit?usp=sharing

http://www.woodbrass.com/librairie%2C-papeterie%2C-dvd...-pupitre-rtx-pupitre-puvx-orchestre-
p20195.html

Dear Friends, music rest is not an important issue for this device, it can be solved with some other ways. There is a more serious problem for me, which is about triple pedal! I expect from Kawai to built a more solid triple pedal for this device. I understand that it does not have its dedicated stand, so it is impossible to fix the pedal assembly to somewhere and that's why the pedal assembly have to be very solid unit, i.e thick/heavy, but as far as I can see, it is very similar to F20 2 pedal unit and I am sure it will move around when you use it! The pedals have very low height from their base,floor, impossible to replicate real piano foot actions. I was expecting something more solid like Roland's triple pedal for RD700NX. I hope Kawai will remedy this failure with new MP series... For a serious piano playing, that is essential, music rest is a less serious issue...
Cheers!

AtlantisHero, thank you for your post.

To clarify, your issue with the F-30 pedal unit is that:

- it may move around on the floor
- the height of the pedals is too low (?)

Here are the two pedal units, for reference:

Kawai F-30:



Roland RPU-3:



Kind regards,
James
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Seems pretty solid to me ?! @AtlantisHero ; have you tried it ?

Personally I like the idea of NOT having a fixed position of the pedals (fixed in cabinet / stand); if it's ergonomically not in the right place for you , than you can move it to a position where you find it more pleasant to use. E.g. the three pedal set on my ES7 was a bit to close to the front for my own taste and I would have loved to be able to position it backward a bit. With the VPC1 set you can do exactly that.

Please let us know if you tried the F-30 or know anyone who has and what the experience was (perfectly OK, too light / too low ?); I'm curious.

(Should have known the answer myself by now, but...; sorry James ;-)

The pedals are solid and fine, not too low. They don't move easily on most floors. If you ask me.

When I first got my F-20 2-pedal unit it used to move around on the hardwood floor where I was at the time. I got some non-slip shelf liner and put it underneath and it hasn't bothered me since. You might try the same thing or something similar. You can also place something behind it (phonebook?). Generally in my experience when a pedal moves it moves away from you.

Hello James, let me tell you one thing firstly, you are great I have never seen a company presentative who is in love chatting and sharing their opinions with the customer... Well done!

One of my friends has Kawai MP10 and his F20 pedal set is dancing on the hard floor. I have not seen VPC-1 and F30 pedal set yet but as far as I can see the construction of it very similar with F20. It may not move as much as F20 but I am sure it has a tendency to do so...

I am sure you have played acustic pianos as well as digital piano models with furniture and their pedal location from the ground is quite high. We are talking about replicating the real piano so I think the pedals should look more sturdy. Yes, as I said, I have not tried them yet, but I would be really glad if I get some feedback from someone about this issue.
I do not know but Roland's triple pedal set looks more elegant and purposeful... Thank you for your kindness anyway