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pv88 #2040592 02/28/13 08:36 AM
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I think it's a pop song that has a synthy bass, and reminds me a bit of the 80s song "New Groove" by the Rockmelons.

Yes, I think you might be right about three hands, the cheating swines. ;^)

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Don't worry, third hand implants are surely being developed along with the piano itself. wink Can't stop the progress!


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I think it's loosely based on:


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By the way there's a notable phrase in that song, which I think is spot on:

"Some people still having a GAS" laugh

Oddly enough, I don't have a GAS for the Physis. The acoustic piano sounds very tin-like and definitely worse than Pianoteq and V-Piano.



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Thankyou Cybergene - that most certainly is it! smile

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Originally Posted by sullivang
The new demo recordings aren't impressing me as much as the earlier ones, and often the attacks sound lacking, just like Pianoteq. (worse than Pianoteq I think) It sounds good, but not fantastic. Still no Wurly demos either.....Greg.


The Bass-sounds are cool though ! Especially for a piano. AP is not impressive - very pianoteq-like (which is a little cheaper, even with top MIDI controller). EP's vary in quality. Strings, no thanks. But the Bass sound...

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It's really a matter of if you will like the Italian "Fatar" action in the Physis, as I would be more concerned with getting local serviceability if it needed repair.


It's also a matter of whether you will ever be able to find a Physis in a store to try it out. There are thousands of Roland dealers in the world, not sure the Physis is going to appear in many showrooms. In fact, I'll bet it will never appear in any Australian shop, ever.


I'd reckon you might find one in a certain shop in South Yarra if it ever ships in quantity


I have to admit, I can't even think of a musical instrument shop in South Yarra. Care to reveal it?

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Yeah JFP,
The bass sounds (particularly the acoustic upright) are in a league of their own, compared to the acoustic piano sounds. I was quickly and tiredly going through all the sound demos, not being impressed, when I came upon the acoustic upright bass - my ears did a double-take! Hard to imagine a visual of that. smile

How did they get the bass right, with all it's sliding, bending and plucking - and then bundle it with that AP piano sound - not even a close 'approximation' of a hammer strike on a piano. I don't get it. frown

It's interesting how 2 different software companies approached physical modeling a piano, and both arrived at a similar sound - that 'Pianoteq' sound. Obviously the attack needs work, and I was missing some upper partials, especially in the middle-C area (which is the hardest to get right for all companies, Roland V included).

I'm curious to know if our rigorous physical modeling mathematical equations all lead to this unfortunate sound, or if this is a short-coming of our current state of technology (sound technology, not mainstream computer technology which is leaps and bounds above DP tech).

As sound technology catches up, maybe we can approximate more of the physical modeling process, such as the complex hammer strike-portion of the piano tone.

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I just purchased the new Physis and can share my impression with you. First of all I have been playing most of the different brand of digital piano for the past 20 years and recently I was the happy owner of a Roland 700 NX and was convinced that there would be no more room for improvement anymore since the sound quality and keyboard reached incredibile level with the NX or GX. The new Physis version H1 was just delivered last week to my usual music shop in Milano (Lucky music). I tried it and couldn't stop playing. i came back again the following day to doble check my first impression doing a head to head comparaison with the RD700 NX. Describing a sound is not easy ( like trying to explain why you prefer this wine...) But I was so convinced that I didn't hesitate to sell the Roland for the Physis. The Roland sounded so much artificial, flat, innaturale, with no character versus the Physis which provide me with these very rich harmonics, with a slighly unperfection in the sound to give you the impression to play on the real thing ( I also own a Steinway accoustic piano at home ) The association with the fantastic wooden keyboard plus the elegant design will certainly make this instrument a winner. If you have questions, please do not hesitate. I realise that being an early adopter I have to assume my responsibility in this forum. My final advise: Try it to beleive"

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@Steinway170,

Congratulations, as you are the first one here to give a review of the new Physis Piano.

If you are able to post some recordings of the sounds we would like to hear them.

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@Steinway170, nice to see the Physis piano has actually materialized, in spite of my utmost conviction of it not getting out there in the near future. smile Apparently, it has some issues that might get ironed out but it's a good start nonetheless.


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Originally Posted by Clayman
@Steinway170, nice to see the Physis piano has actually materialized, in spite of my utmost conviction of it not getting out there in the near future. smile Apparently, it has some issues that might get ironed out but it's a good start nonetheless.


Well, with all due respect to our new member, we don't have a lot of corroborating evidence just yet. Some pics and videos in its new home would convince further than a verbal testimonial.

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My advise is really to go and test it. If any one would have to pick-up the best piano between a Bosendorfer, a Steinway or a Grand Yamaha, I am sure he would never trust a video or a sample on a computer. The quality of the best Digital piano on the market is so high already that the differentiation is getting more and more difficult to perceive. It is not only a matter of sound, it is the overall feeling of playing with something different that offer a sensation that is very close to playing the real thing. I thought I had every thing I needed with my Rolanf RD700 NX, till I tried this new toy. I still need to get some experience with the user interface and will share more within next few weeks.

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So, how is the "fantastic wooden keyboard " ?! Many users here are a bit suspicious of Fatar keybeds, because they are 'functional' but compared to the Kawai/ Yamaha / Roland top, rather average. I said before that it could be a redesigned and improved Fatar keybed, because it has to be a new product with for the first time three sensors. Therefore I'm very curious how you rate this keybed in comparisson to the PHA-III of the RD700NX.

- how is the respons / repetition
- how is the touch (heavy / mid / light / same as PHA III ??)
- how good is the Ivory finish and do the black keys also have special coating
- do you feel / think it is still a typical Fatar mechanism with springs ?
- how's the bottoming out of the keys ? Nice and smooth, or a hard thumb ?
- does it make more / less noise than then Roland keys
- how does it connect to the sound ? Natural and precise control, also in soft passages ?

Questions like that...

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Well, with all due respect to our new member, we don't have a lot of corroborating evidence just yet. Some pics and videos in its new home would convince further than a verbal testimonial.

This. I couldn't figure out how to say it so gently though. It may all be true, but one post wonder newbie member worshipped new product while trash talking current product. wink Sorry, I am overly allergic to stealth marketers ...

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We'll see...

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I can confirm that Physis Piano is (or "was" after Steinway170 purchase? smile ) available at Milan store. Some people tried it and they're talking about it on Italian forum.


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Originally Posted by Qbert
I can confirm that Physis Piano is (or "was" after Steinway170 purchase? smile ) available at Milan store. Some people tried it and they're talking about it on Italian forum.

Do you have a link to the Italian forum?


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Here it is.

You can find test comments on 2nd and last pages.

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