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#2042442 - 03/03/13 05:18 PM VERY newbie question: How do I play this note?
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In the red, it say 4 1 5 , which I take it means to play with those 3 fingers, right? then what about the 3 at the bottom of the middle note? So is it finger 1 or 3? What am I not getting?

In the green, is the line/song played with the B and E as flats?



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#2042445 - 03/03/13 05:22 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: adak]
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The 3 is not a fingering number. It tells you that the three notes are triplets. If you look carefully you will see that the 3 is slanted as in italics.

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#2042446 - 03/03/13 05:23 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: adak]
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The "3" means it is a triplet.

Please do yourself a big favor and get a basic book on music Theory.

You are obviously very interested, and since you have said that you
cannot afford a teacher, a Theory book is IMHO totally essential.

A triplet is three notes played on one beat. Note that the font is in italics relative to finger numbers.

Yes to the flats.
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#2042447 - 03/03/13 05:23 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: keystring]
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Oh OK. But why write the 3 anyways? It is ovbious they are triples just by glancing at them.
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#2042448 - 03/03/13 05:24 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: adak]
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Those are triplets, as indicated by the number three below - sometimes music is written that way to act as a reminder. Three notes per beat. The numbers over the notes are the suggested fingerings. Yes, the music calls for Bb and Eb unless indicated otherwise indicated in the score. ah - looks like you've already received your replies!

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#2042450 - 03/03/13 05:27 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: adak]
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Get this Theory book....Seriously. I use it with all my adult students. Trying to learn without a teacher is hard enough, but without knowing the basics such as this, you are going to be really lost.

This book is like a dictionary and encyclopedia of the basics of how to read and understand music. Consider it essential.

http://www.amazon.com/Alfreds-Essentials...ds=piano+theory
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#2042454 - 03/03/13 05:36 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: adak]
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It means play BOTH notes with your thumb.

EDIT: color me confused. Adak posted a followup question in this thread but it doesn't seem to be here now.


Edited by Whizbang (03/03/13 05:38 PM)
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#2042461 - 03/03/13 05:51 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: Whizbang]
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Originally Posted By: Whizbang

EDIT: color me confused. Adak posted a followup question in this thread but it doesn't seem to be here now.


It's not here, because it's over there. If it were here, it wouldn't be a posted follow up question over there. So it's you who are in the wrong place. You need to be over there. Not here.
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#2042480 - 03/03/13 06:26 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: adak]
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I concur with Rocket88

Although I can read music and have been playing for a number of years I bought myself a slightly different book to the one suggested, have a look at

http://www.amazon.com/Alfreds-Essentials...of+music+theory

This covers everything from basic notation to complex chords and harmonies e.t.c.
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#2042514 - 03/03/13 07:25 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: adak]
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Originally Posted By: adak
Oh OK. But why write the 3 anyways? It is ovbious they are triples just by glancing at them.


Actually, no, if you don't have the 3, then they would look like 8th notes. Triplets and 8th notes are not at all the same things. You play all 3 triplet in one quarter note beat. You play 2 8th notes in one quarter note beat.
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#2042547 - 03/03/13 08:39 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: adak]
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One can see that they are triplets because of the way they are spaced, and beamed in groups of three. But by convention, when music is in duple time, you write in tuplets so that everything is clear.

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#2042586 - 03/03/13 09:54 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: adak]
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adak,
4evrBeginR has it right. Think of it like this. The bottom number in the key signature tells you that the quarter note gets one beat. It can be subdivided into eighth notes, sixteenth notes, etc...

So let's say the composer divides the beat into two eighth notes. Those two notes are played in the time it takes for a single quarter note to play. But sometimes the composer might want to divide the beat into 4 sixteenth notes. Those 4 notes would again be played in the same time as one would play a single quarter note.

Now, sometimes, rather than dividing the beat into two, or into four, the beat gets divided into 3 notes. This is the triplet rhythm. You play 3 notes in the time it would take you to play a quarter note (or two eighth notes).

The 3 under the three beamed notes tells them to play them as a triplet rhythm rather than as 3 eighth notes. So they go a bit faster to fit them into the time it would normally take to play two eighth notes.

Note: It's also possible to form triplets with other notes (such as quarter notes).

Anyway, hope that helps.
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#2042840 - 03/04/13 01:00 PM Re: VERY newbie question: How do I play this note? [Re: adak]
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Originally Posted By: adak
Oh OK. But why write the 3 anyways? It is ovbious they are triples just by glancing at them.


You can easily identify them in a short bar in an easy piece. Now try to imagine a very challenging piece with and advanced rhytm that has both triplets and ordinary eighth. Then you'd have to count to see if they are triplets or not and even then it might not be clear. One clear notation for any kind of music is much preferable.
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