Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Who's Online
133 registered (accordeur, 36251, ando, AmandaH, 40 invisible), 1477 Guests and 6 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Page 6 of 6 < 1 2 3 4 5 6
Topic Options
#2043112 - 03/04/13 11:46 PM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Maximillyan]
Weiyan Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 10/04/11
Posts: 795
Loc: Hong Kong
Originally Posted By: Maximillyan
Originally Posted By: Weiyan

Its surprise that my piano need to raise more than I expect to charge the pin.

Hi,Weiyan.I like yours unisons but if your piano so let your tones in one night-day, probably pins does not have enough friction between wood and a metal . Why is it so fast run from the tone?
Do not hide a puppy, it was very worried


Thank you. I don't have a puppy. May be I can't comprehend the humor. Sorry.
_________________________
Working on:\

J.S.Bach Prelude in C Min: No. 2 from Six Preludes fur Anfanger auf dem
Am Abend No. 2 from Stimmungsbilder, Op. 88
60s Swing No. 1 from Swinging Rhythms
http://weiyanwo.wordpress.com

Top
(ad 568) PTG Grand Action Regulation in 37 Steps
PTG Grand Action Regulation in 37 Steps
#2043158 - 03/05/13 02:49 AM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Maximillyan]
Mark R. Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/31/09
Posts: 2198
Loc: Pretoria, South Africa
Originally Posted By: Maximillyan
Originally Posted By: Weiyan

Its surprise that my piano need to raise more than I expect to charge the pin.

Hi,Weiyan.I like yours unisons but if your piano so let your tones in one night-day, probably pins does not have enough friction between wood and a metal . Why is it so fast run from the tone?
Do not hide a puppy, it was very worried


Has it crossed your mind that Weiyan may be deliberately de-tuning and re-tuning unisons, in order to practise?
_________________________
Autodidact interested in piano technology.
LinkedIn profile
1922 49" Zimmermann, project piano.
1970 44" Ibach, daily music maker.

Top
#2043172 - 03/05/13 03:15 AM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Weiyan]
Maximillyan Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/12/11
Posts: 1664
Loc: KZ
Originally Posted By: Weiyan
Originally Posted By: Maximillyan
Originally Posted By: Weiyan

Its surprise that my piano need to raise more than I expect to charge the pin.

Hi,Weiyan.I like yours unisons but if your piano so let your tones in one night-day, probably pins does not have enough friction between wood and a metal . Why is it so fast run from the tone?
Do not hide a puppy, it was very worried


Thank you. I don't have a puppy. May be I can't comprehend the humor. Sorry.

May be I'd hear street dog's bark by . Sorry.

Top
#2043179 - 03/05/13 03:26 AM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Mark R.]
Maximillyan Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/12/11
Posts: 1664
Loc: KZ
Originally Posted By: Mark R.
Originally Posted By: Maximillyan
Originally Posted By: Weiyan

Its surprise that my piano need to raise more than I expect to charge the pin.

Hi,Weiyan.I like yours unisons but if your piano so let your tones in one night-day, probably pins does not have enough friction between wood and a metal . Why is it so fast run from the tone?
Do not hide a puppy, it was very worried


Has it crossed your mind that Weiyan may be deliberately de-tuning and re-tuning unisons, in order to practise?

Sorry I didn't understood that this is a training piano. It is incorrect act: In begin loose the string and pulling back the string again.

Top
#2043181 - 03/05/13 03:36 AM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Mark Davis]
Weiyan Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 10/04/11
Posts: 795
Loc: Hong Kong
I am practicing unison tuning.

There are many street dogs around my house. I am in rural area keeping dogs are allowed. If you follow my posts, you will hear birds and insects sing one or two months later.
_________________________
Working on:\

J.S.Bach Prelude in C Min: No. 2 from Six Preludes fur Anfanger auf dem
Am Abend No. 2 from Stimmungsbilder, Op. 88
60s Swing No. 1 from Swinging Rhythms
http://weiyanwo.wordpress.com

Top
#2043185 - 03/05/13 03:54 AM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Weiyan]
Maximillyan Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/12/11
Posts: 1664
Loc: KZ
Originally Posted By: Weiyan
I am practicing unison tuning.

There are many street dogs around my house. I am in rural area keeping dogs are allowed.

Of course, we will listen to your unisons. I am personally looking for something in them for yourself useful, because so far I can not do them properly. However, what I heard howling puppy and moving cockroach clearly indicates my attention and interest when watching your movie. These natural sounds attach the process little charm. It's involuntarily transferred this clip to the category of educational film art

Top
#2043190 - 03/05/13 04:03 AM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Weiyan]
Maximillyan Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/12/11
Posts: 1664
Loc: KZ
Originally Posted By: Weiyan
McMorro's all tuning is unison is enlightenment. I tried to tune the octave and two 4th 5th intervals.

Good octave 4 and 5. For me

Top
#2043198 - 03/05/13 04:26 AM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Mark Davis]
Olek Online   content
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 8557
Loc: France
Octaves are really difficuly to tune withoput any check.

May be it is just experience, but I recall having alesson with a Master tuner when I was beginning to learn.

He made me tune octaves only, and did not test them by 3d 10th, or whatever interval, only by luminosity .

4th and 5th tells me more about the octave than 3d and 10 th , today
_________________________
Professional of the profession.
Foo Foo specialist
I wish to add some kind and sensitive phrase but nothing comes to mind.! Euh.... sorry for the lengthy postings, I cannot refrain writing !

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_africas_lions_loc/?tcltqeb

Top
#2043200 - 03/05/13 04:39 AM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Weiyan]
Olek Online   content
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 8557
Loc: France
x


Edited by Olek (03/05/13 04:48 AM)
_________________________
Professional of the profession.
Foo Foo specialist
I wish to add some kind and sensitive phrase but nothing comes to mind.! Euh.... sorry for the lengthy postings, I cannot refrain writing !

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_africas_lions_loc/?tcltqeb

Top
#2043204 - 03/05/13 04:59 AM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Mark Davis]
Olek Online   content
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 8557
Loc: France
Not bad Weyan but the most important move is when RAISING the note, not when going backward.



You move the tuning lever a little too fast yet, it is too fast to feel the springiness of the pin precisely.

You seem to listen sooner in the tone, but you can listen a little sooner, and avoid listening tho the filtered beat until the last controls.


Why ? because the way the tone grows at its beginning show how it will behave later
_________________________
Professional of the profession.
Foo Foo specialist
I wish to add some kind and sensitive phrase but nothing comes to mind.! Euh.... sorry for the lengthy postings, I cannot refrain writing !

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_africas_lions_loc/?tcltqeb

Top
#2052306 - 03/22/13 07:19 AM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Mark Davis]
Weiyan Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 10/04/11
Posts: 795
Loc: Hong Kong
Pitch dropping. Don't know why the piano go too high. The whether is warmer the pitch should drop.

It needs uncharge the pin until it lower than target pitch, then charge. If just uncharge little then charge the pin, it seems not hold the pitch. F#3 and G#3 is is troublesome. Today only need to touch F#2 after the tuning session. grin

Took 18 minutes to tune F3 to C5.



Edited by Weiyan (03/22/13 07:21 AM)
_________________________
Working on:\

J.S.Bach Prelude in C Min: No. 2 from Six Preludes fur Anfanger auf dem
Am Abend No. 2 from Stimmungsbilder, Op. 88
60s Swing No. 1 from Swinging Rhythms
http://weiyanwo.wordpress.com

Top
#2052314 - 03/22/13 07:37 AM Re: Unison Tuning [Re: Weiyan]
Olek Online   content
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 8557
Loc: France
Originally Posted By: Weiyan
Pitch dropping. Don't know why the piano go too high. The whether is warmer the pitch should drop.

It needs uncharge the pin until it lower than target pitch, then charge. If just uncharge little then charge the pin, it seems not hold the pitch. F#3 and G#3 is is troublesome. Today only need to touch F#2 after the tuning session. grin

Took 18 minutes to tune F3 to C5.



Warmer weather goes usually with more humidity, hence pitch raising.

It raise because you tune from above, also,

the real tuning is done when you raise, the rest is stabilisation and touch up.


Edited by Olek (03/22/13 07:40 AM)
_________________________
Professional of the profession.
Foo Foo specialist
I wish to add some kind and sensitive phrase but nothing comes to mind.! Euh.... sorry for the lengthy postings, I cannot refrain writing !

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/save_africas_lions_loc/?tcltqeb

Top
Page 6 of 6 < 1 2 3 4 5 6

Moderator:  Piano World 
Shop our Store for Music Lovers!
Back to School Music SALE!
Save 10% in our online store
.
Just enter SAVE10 in the coupon box during checkout. *
And YES, you can save 10% AND still get free shipping on Jansen Artist benches!
PianoSupplies.com is Piano World's Online Store
Please visit our store today.
* Sale does not apply to advertising, how old requests, or any non-tangible items. Can not be combined with any other promotions. Ends August 31, 2015
(ad) Teaching Children Music
Teaching Music to Children
(ad) Yamaha Stage Pianos
Yamaha CP4 & CP40 Stage Pianos
(ads) PD - WNG - MH
PianoDisc
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Steinway Piano #600,000
by phantomFive
27 minutes 51 seconds ago
Yamaha P-105 split balance
by blotchy
Today at 05:57 PM
Can i change piano voice?
by Kaan Ergen
Today at 04:55 PM
Any beginner piano Books?
by ihavetubes
Today at 04:27 PM
Henry Cowell's Piano Concerto (BBC Proms now)
by bennevis
Today at 02:52 PM
What's Hot!!
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Forum Stats
80,568 Registered Members
44 Forums
166,537 Topics
2,440,488 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2015 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission