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#2044102 - 03/06/13 07:28 PM A review of the Kawai CA95
Kenny J Offline
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Registered: 02/06/13
Posts: 16
Loc: Yorba Linda, CA
Kawai CA95 – Piano Review

I recently purchased a Kawai CA95. It is a fine furniture digital piano made for homes. The keyboard has 80 instrument sounds with 256 polyphony. Kawai supplied the CA95 with their Grand Feel keyboard action and a soundboard in the back to enhance the sound quality. The keyboard has a simple elegance about it. The black satin finish is very pretty. The power switch and volume slider are on the right. The control panel is on the left. The control panel is very modest and unobtrusive. This design choice increases the simple uncomplicated look of the piano but creates added complications when using the interface. More on this later.

Let me give you a little background so you know where I’m coming from. I’m an advanced player but not virtuoso. The only acoustic piano I’ve ever had was an Estey spinet acoustic piano I got when I was 5. I have also had a Korg 01W/FD and I have a Korg M3-88 and a Roland BK-7M. I play mostly pop and rock roll music with a little classical music sometimes. I love recording covers and recently finished Billy Joel’s My Life. I’ve bought this Piano for our living room to replace the Estey.

Sounds

The CA95 has a built in sound board that delivers a wonderful playing experience. The soundboard adds a whole new dimension to the playing experience that I really enjoy. The keyboard vibrates while I’m playing and there is no harsh splitting of the sound that I get when playing my Korg M3 pianos. The presence is just like an acoustic piano. There are 16 piano presets, 8 electric pianos, 16 organs, 3 harpsichords, 8 strings, 16 vocals and 5 basses and 3 guitars. There is a great assortment of organs and electric pianos. The strings are of fair quality and vocal & pads are quite weak. All the piano presets are very nice and deliver a noticeable change in ambiance to the ear. There is a lot to work with when playing in different genre. But this is not a workstation. It hasn’t got a lot of voices but the core sound set is of a high quality except for the vocals. I like Mellow Piano best of all for the piano presets. But Kawai has a nice secret I just found out about that took the keyboard to a whole new level.

Virtual Technician

Inside the Menu button, Kawai has created a feature they call Virtual Technician that lets you craft the sound to your taste. You can change the Damper Resonance, String Resonance, Tone Control, Delay Time, Voicing among others. This gives you amazing control of the sound the keyboard outputs. It is a daunting task to delve “under the hood” to modify the sound you wanted most and I would bet that most people wouldn’t even try. But I found out that much of the work has been done already. The Kawai has a Dual Feature that allows you to layer two sounds together.

TADutchman has created a wonderful list of Dual Voice pianos that increase the realism of the Kawai preset for the CA93. He has detailed each setting to change. The preset include muddy, brooding monsters to shimming ethereal gossamers. I’m digging the Steinway Grand Devotion and the Shigeru Kawai Concert Grand so far. But I’ve just gotten started. This has helped me understand how the VT works and so I can work with the setting to create my own pianos. I feel that Kawai should include TADutchman’s preset in the manual. They are that good.

The other night I was just singing and playing a cover of Live and Let Die. I completely forgot that I was playing a DP. I felt that I was playing a regular acoustic. That has never happened with the Korg.

Action

The keyboard is Kawai’s Grand Feel action. This is supposed to emulate the action of a grand piano. I have almost no experience with real grand pianos. My entire life I’ve played spinets and synthesizers but I’ve enjoyed the Kawai action. The individual keys are nicely crafted and it is much easier to play then my old spinet piano or my Korg M3. My only concern is that the black keys are a little slick. It seems that there is much less friction on the black keys then on the M3 or my old Estey. It’s not good or bad. Just different. The action is very responsive. I think my playing is a little bit over the top so I’ve turned up the Touch Curve one notch to Heavy. I love the response to the light touch of Yes’ Sail Away to heavy rock N roll power chords later in the song.

Metronome and Drums

The metronome and drums feature is nice but flawed. It has 10 time signatures and another 100 Drum Rhythms. When you push the Metronome button it begins immediately clicking away. If you need to change the tempo or you want to select a drum beat that is well down the list, well you are going to hear a lot of clicking. If you want to hear the Country & Western beat you have to push the metronome button 110 times while the metronome clicks on and on. Not pleasant. I would have appreciated it being activated by the play/stop switch. Maybe Kawai could put add this on an update.

Extras

The Kawai also comes with a plethora of extras. It has the Alfred Lesson books for children and adults as well as scales, arpeggios and the Hanon studies. But this suffers from the same problem the metronome has. If what you want is well down the list you have a lot of button mashing ahead of you. But a least you don’t have to hear each song while you are going through the list. They are activated but pushing the Play/Stop button. But you could have 50 button pushes to get to your selection.

The CA95 also has a fun feature that got a few chuckles from the family. My wife is not a musician and I set up a song that would play when she pushed a key. She really enjoyed playing the song and laughed at how fun it was. But I doubt that she will ever do it again. I can see using this feature every once in a while but it seems more of a now what after you’re done.

Conclusion

I am very pleased with my purchase and would buy it again. The CA95 is a great digital piano. The instrument has wonderful presets and is a joy to play with the soundboard and quality keyboard action. The ability to craft its sounds allows me to create even better more responsive voices then the presets. The simple menu interface is easy to use but can cause you to do a lot of button pushing if you have to go deep into a menu. I wish the metronome had an on/off switch so I didn’t have to listen to it while I was setting up. If you’re looking for a quality furniture digital piano the Kawai CA95 is one of the best.
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Arabesque No. 1 - Debussy
Dr. Gradus Ad Parnassum - Debussy
Live and Let Die - McCartney
Maple Leaf Rag - Scott Joplin

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#2044106 - 03/06/13 07:39 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
adak Offline
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Post pictures. Always post pictures when writing a review.
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#2044109 - 03/06/13 07:55 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Congratulations on your purchase, and thank you for the very detailed review of your CA95, Kenny J.
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#2044151 - 03/06/13 08:51 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
MacMacMac Offline
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Post pictures? Don't all CA95's look the same? I'll bet Kenny J's piano looks exactly like the one pictured on Kawai's web site.

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#2044188 - 03/06/13 09:46 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
Kawai James Offline
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Kenny J, thank you for posting your detailed review, and congratulations on the purchase of your new piano.

Regarding the selection of metronome/drum rhythms, I believe it should be possible to press and hold the LEFT/RIGHT buttons to cycle through the available patterns, rather than pressing the same button repeatedly.

In addition, it is also possible to store preferred metronome beat, tempo, and volume settings to the CA95's internal 'User Memory' (recalled every time the instrument is turned on), or one of the 16 'Registration' memories (recalled when selected).

Regarding the selection of Lesson Function songs/etudes, in addition to cycling through the available songs using the LEFT/RIGHT buttons, it is also possible to select a song directly. To achieve this, after entering the Lesson Function and selecting the desired lesson book, press and hold the [2] FUNCTION button, then press one of the 88 keys on the keyboard. For a list of available lesson songs and their corresponding key numbers, please refer to the 'Internal Song Lists' booklet that accompanied the owner's manual.

I hope this helps.

Kind regards,
James
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#2044322 - 03/07/13 03:10 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
MagicK Offline
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Funny, i just thought of things i don't like with my CN34 (a very short list i must say) and selecting rhythms was on top of it. This is definitely an area where Kawai could improve their interface a lot.

I think the key sentence in your review is " I completely forgot that I was playing a DP. I felt that I was playing a regular acoustic." Congratulations for finding the holy grail so many poeple in this forum are hunting for :-)

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#2044327 - 03/07/13 04:40 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
mabraman Offline
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Well, with regards to Kawai's interface I think it's quite usable. True, some shortcuts would be pleasant, but keeping buttons held does it for me, and it's quick enough. It's a standard method of selecting functions and I appreciate that. Other solutions would imply a numerical list to be shown somewhere over the board or, even worse, memorized, and a subsequent set of numerical keys (as for selecting demo songs). Some models offer that (Yam. DGX i.e.) but it's a quite different design approach. CA's are DPs in disguise. No too much buttons, nor big screens.

Virtual Technician: I agree it offers some(sure they are many?) possibilities to adapt the main sound to your taste. But, at least for some lower models, there's nothing like a winning choice. I mean, every parameter you modify may have 'undesirable' consequences, therefore some combinations produce an ugly,unpractical sound, yet possible.
Setting touch to heavy makes it easier to control, preventing from undesired overtones or nuances, but then you narrow your dynamic range too. Don't you?
And so on. It would be fine some advice coming form Kawai, perhaps.
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#2044339 - 03/07/13 05:27 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
MagicK Offline
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When you select an instrument, you can jump through sections and within that section you can select the specific instrument. That could have been used for the rhythm section too.
And the VT needs a "Are you really sure that you want to delve into these setting, fiddling with endless parameters, missing hours over hours that could have better been used to actually play" Message :-)

But we're straying away from the purpose of this thread. A satisfiesd customer with a CA95 that was soo way out of my budget when i was shopping :-)

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#2044341 - 03/07/13 05:41 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Thanks for the review. Is the MSRP a top secret national security issue?

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#2044533 - 03/07/13 02:02 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
Kenny J Offline
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Registered: 02/06/13
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Loc: Yorba Linda, CA
Dave B: Nothing top secret. I posted what, where and how on the "bought a piano" thread. Short answer $3980.

As a design engineer, the interface design philosophy is interesting to me. My Korg M3 has a wall of switches, buttons and sliders and looks daunting to anyone I show it to. There's number pads to access the 1000s of rhythm and voices the M3 has. There is a knob dedicated just for adjusting the tempo. I've shown my kids how to use it yet they are still afraid to even turn it on. I've even seen on some of Korg's videos them telling people try the different buttons and switch to tweak your sounds. So it's an issue.

The Kawai, on the other hand, is simplicity itself. Clearly, the design is much more aestheticly pleasing. The designers wanted the emphesis on the piano not the computer and I think they succeeded. I didn't even have to tell my family how to use it. They just jumped right on and started playing. But that simplicity comes at a price. I found the unstopable metronome annoying and the need to mash buttons a deterrent to wanting to use the drum feature.

But these are not key features to me. I have enjoyed the information available to everyone on this website. I wanted to add my thoughts for the community. I love my new piano. I've played it for hours and hours and it's wonderful. I added the review so that the designers can make it even better when the CA97 comes out.
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Arabesque No. 1 - Debussy
Dr. Gradus Ad Parnassum - Debussy
Live and Let Die - McCartney
Maple Leaf Rag - Scott Joplin

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#2044619 - 03/07/13 04:20 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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@Kenny J,

Yes, I too would certainly be interested in seeing a "CA97" model should one eventually be released, however, the CA95 is excellent for now as you mention:

https://www.box.com/s/gueyivgg5ybrzmk2qgtq

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#2044663 - 03/07/13 05:28 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
ando Offline
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Registered: 11/23/10
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Originally Posted By: Kenny J

As a design engineer, the interface design philosophy is interesting to me. My Korg M3 has a wall of switches, buttons and sliders and looks daunting to anyone I show it to. There's number pads to access the 1000s of rhythm and voices the M3 has. There is a knob dedicated just for adjusting the tempo. I've shown my kids how to use it yet they are still afraid to even turn it on. I've even seen on some of Korg's videos them telling people try the different buttons and switch to tweak your sounds. So it's an issue.

The Kawai, on the other hand, is simplicity itself. Clearly, the design is much more aestheticly pleasing. The designers wanted the emphesis on the piano not the computer and I think they succeeded. I didn't even have to tell my family how to use it. They just jumped right on and started playing. But that simplicity comes at a price. I found the unstopable metronome annoying and the need to mash buttons a deterrent to wanting to use the drum feature.


This is an unfair comparison however. The M3 is a full blown workstation/synthesizer/performance board. The Kawai is a simple piano. If you didn't have all those controls on the M3, you wouldn't be able to access all the functions it offers, and it wouldn't function as a workstation.

The Kawai is a simple beast, doesn't need many controls. The Korg isn't built for kids, so there's no reason for a child to be able to figure it out.

If Kawai made a workstation/synth it would be packed with knobs and sliders and a big screen - like every other one ever made.

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#2044682 - 03/07/13 06:15 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: ando]
Kenny J Offline
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Registered: 02/06/13
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Loc: Yorba Linda, CA
I agree it is not a fair comparison. I was just trying to make an observation that having lots of buttons does have a down side. Comparing an M3 to a CA95 is like comparing a shark to lion. They're both predators. They're both superb at what they do. But after that not so much.


Edited by Kenny J (03/07/13 06:16 PM)
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Live and Let Die - McCartney
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#2044835 - 03/07/13 11:39 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
ando Offline
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Originally Posted By: Kenny J
I agree it is not a fair comparison. I was just trying to make an observation that having lots of buttons does have a down side.


But on a synth/workstation not having lots of buttons and sliders would be a downside... wink

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#2044902 - 03/08/13 04:46 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Hi Kenny J. First of all thank you for the review, very well done and interesting.
I have what might sound like the weirdest of question now but I was wondering about the packaging, and more specifically, the size of it. I live in a flat, third floor and the stairs are very narrow (was quiet a problem when I moved in). So I really wonder how big the packaging is and if I would have any chance to bring it up to my home. Another related question would be, is the piano in two parts, and if so, are both parts separately protected into a main box so that I could maybe open the main box in the courtyard and carry up the separate part without encoring the risk to damage them ? Sorry for the weird questions and thank you in advance smile
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#2044909 - 03/08/13 05:23 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
Kawai James Offline
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Jean-Luc, the CA95 ships pre-assembled in a single, very large box.

Kind regards,
James
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#2044921 - 03/08/13 06:35 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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@Kawai James, do you have the dimensions of the box handy? "Very large box" is sort of vague and I might be in the same position as Jean-Luc, though I'm fairly sure the staircase in my block of flats is roomy enough to allow for fairly comfortable manipulation.
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#2044924 - 03/08/13 06:49 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
Kawai James Offline
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No, I'm afraid I don't have the dimensions of the shipping box, but will find out after the weekend.

James
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#2044928 - 03/08/13 07:11 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVn5rT6aq8E

This video shows the delivery package for a CA65, hope it helps.
If you look at the floor tiles, whose standard measure is 40 cm., that gives you roughly 1,60x1,20 m. (and 100Kg!!).
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#2044929 - 03/08/13 07:27 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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There's a big difference in packaging between a 65 and a 95 !
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#2044932 - 03/08/13 07:37 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Yes, 65 has to be assembled, what makes it easier to be lifted 3 floors.
95 is just one piece, right?
But the measures should be similar, it's a palet.
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#2044939 - 03/08/13 08:12 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Thank you very much for the answers smile I guess I will have to stay with the VPC1 then, it will be much easier (when moving in, a lot of my furniture had to come through the windows but it's a fairly expensive procedure).
Not a big problem I guess since I already own a copy of the American Concert D and I would have to use a headphone most of the time. It was more about the action, but I guess, quality wise, they are very similar anyway.
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#2044954 - 03/08/13 08:52 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Thanks a lot for your effort, James. smile

@all: Well, considering that the CA-95 is a cabinet piano, the box will be taller but not too wide. It should be fairly well manipulable unless one's dealing with a really confined space.


Edited by Clayman (03/08/13 08:56 AM)
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#2045137 - 03/08/13 03:38 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Jean-Luc]
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@Jean-Luc: it's actually pretty simple: look up the outside dimensions of the CA95 cabinet. There's no need to transport the DP with the surrounding package upstairs. You can take off the packaging downstairs and just take the piano upstairs.
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#2045165 - 03/08/13 04:30 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Yes, and pray your favourite one.
I'd do whay Stephan advises only if it was a fridge or a washing machine. But a wooden brand new CA95...no thanks.
I'd definitely buy a stage piano in that situation.
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#2046646 - 03/11/13 07:23 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Good morning chaps,

I can confirm that the dimensions of the CA95 shipping box are as follows:

1583 (W) × 598 (D) × 975 (H) (mm)

Kind regards,
James
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#2046799 - 03/12/13 02:45 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Sounds good, James. I shouldn't have any trouble getting that baby up to my flat.

Thanks a bunch again for your effort. smile
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#2046822 - 03/12/13 05:08 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Thank you very much James, I will have to take some measurements in my stairs (what worries me actually are the bends smile I really don't feel like carrying it up without the protection of the shipping box.
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#2046824 - 03/12/13 05:24 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Jeal-Luc, it goes without saying that the box is *very* heavy.

When transporting boxes for photography shoots, it's usually a four man job.

Cheers,
James
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#2046827 - 03/12/13 05:30 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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I would either negotiate free delivery and placement from a local retailer or else hire a stair-elevator or crane and bring it in through a window. The CA95 has the dimensions and mass of a lightweight piano. Getting stuck in the stairway with three of your best friends sounds like a nightmare start to owning a new instrument.

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#2046978 - 03/12/13 01:03 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Best to let the professionals do it. It cost me $85 to have it delivered and setup. No worries. That's what I recommend.
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Live and Let Die - McCartney
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#2047002 - 03/12/13 01:44 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Originally Posted By: Kenny J
Best to let the professionals do it. It cost me $85 to have it delivered and setup. No worries. That's what I recommend.


Word of Wisdom.

When my daughter was a young girl, I used to tell her that my litmus test for whether I would "allow" her to participate in various activities was trying to judge my level of embarrassment and/or humiliation if things went badly and the public would find out that I, as the parent, had "allowed" it.

I would use the same litmus test for something like this. Suppose I had paid $2500 for this musical instrument and then had tried to get it up the stairs on the cheap and had a problem and wrecked it. That would be too embarassing for me to endure. So, I have a professional mover do it. Simple.
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#2047020 - 03/12/13 02:28 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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Well, I wasn't planning on doing it by myself. But usually I buy from Thomann, and it would be pretty stupid to order it just to discover there is just no way to get it in my flat :P

This being said, while the C95 is a beautiful piano, in my case it would not be a smart choice. I already have a very good software piano and I can most of the time only listen with a headphone so, since I guess both action are very similar, it's probably a lot smarter for me to get a VPC1. I guess, I was simply very attracted by the beauty of the instrument and the idea of a "real" piano in the room. (to be honest, I was even more in lover with the CS9 and it probably has an even scarier box wink )
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#2047216 - 03/12/13 07:39 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Jean-Luc]
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Originally Posted By: Jean-Luc
I guess, I was simply very attracted by the beauty of the instrument and the idea of a "real" piano in the room. (to be honest, I was even more in lover with the CS9 and it probably has an even scarier box wink )


What about the CS-10? It looks amazing but the price tag must be astronomical too... However, in your case it seems much smarter to go with the VPC1 and to use the software piano that you have already.


Edited by Amaruk (03/12/13 07:39 PM)
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#2047230 - 03/12/13 08:13 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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What about the ES7.

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#2047249 - 03/12/13 09:14 PM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: EPW]
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Originally Posted By: EPW
What about the ES7.


That is what I would vote for.

I would not like the idea of needing to hook into computer software sounds all of the time.

Not to mention that I think the ES7 sound is terrific on its own.

The keybed on the ES7 is also excellent.

If the main attractiveness to the VPC1 is the built-in velocity curves, I would suggest that they main turn out to be mostly hype without any real noticeable value over the velocity curves within the piano software itself.

I may be wrong about that but until I hear convincing testimony, it will remain my position on that.

And, the ES7 has a furniture stand option which, in my opinion, looks better than some sort of X stand or something else and also more stable.

To me, it would be an easy decision between the VPC1 and the ES7.



Edited by dmd (03/12/13 09:18 PM)
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#2047422 - 03/13/13 02:10 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Jean-Luc]
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Originally Posted By: Jean-Luc
Well, I wasn't planning on doing it by myself. But usually I buy from Thomann, and it would be pretty stupid to order it just to discover there is just no way to get it in my flat :P


I bought my Roland HP-307 from thomann.de. Advantage was lower price than local dealer plus ability to pay with Amex to get additional warranty coverage and airmiles further reducing the net price paid.

It was delivered by a freight consolidator forwarder and left in two boxes strapped to a pallet on the sidewalk in front of our brownstone. I recruited a neighbor to move the heavy but manageable boxes up two flights of stairs. Actually assembled the thing myself (but I recommend that you have a partner for that as well, 'bout gave myself a hernia). I can imagine that in the tinier, more winding staircases in the centrum that the boxes would have had to have been held more upright, but it would have been possible getting them in through the staircase.

The new Roland HP-507 is an amazing instrument with the PHA-III keyboard & Supernatural sound and new features that make sense like early fortepiano sounds for baroque early classical playing, automatic power off in case you close the lid without powering off first and very easy USB integration to make playing along with your favorite minus 1 tracks a pleasure, etc. etc.

I would not consider buying an RM3 or GF Kaway keyboard from thomann or another online dealer due to the fact that there seems to be a very high chance that you will need maintenance support requiring you to send the instrument back rather than just calling the local dealer and making them deal with the problem. The Roland keyboards seem to be designed to stay aligned and regulated and able to be transported without damage.

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#2047440 - 03/13/13 03:01 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: theJourney]
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Originally Posted By: theJourney

I bought my Roland HP-307 from thomann.de.

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It was delivered by a freight consolidator forwarder and left in two boxes strapped to a pallet on the sidewalk in front of our brownstone.

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I, too, am thinking about ordering the CA-95 from thomann.de, but I was sort of hoping the delivery would be done straight to my flat. smile Oh well, looks like I'm going to have to get hold of a few people willing to flex their muscles for a bit.
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#2047442 - 03/13/13 03:13 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Clayman]
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Originally Posted By: Clayman
Originally Posted By: theJourney

I bought my Roland HP-307 from thomann.de.

<snip/>

It was delivered by a freight consolidator forwarder and left in two boxes strapped to a pallet on the sidewalk in front of our brownstone.

<snip/>


I, too, am thinking about ordering the CA-95 from thomann.de, but I was sort of hoping the delivery would be done straight to my flat. smile Oh well, looks like I'm going to have to get hold of a few people willing to flex their muscles for a bit.


I wouldn't even consider ordering a CA-95 from thomann.de unless you live on the ground floor with no staircase. It cannot be disassembled and so is as bulky as a real piano. Plus, if and when your maintenance sensitive, transport damaged wooden keyboard doesn't work properly after delivery, you will be responsible for boxing it the whole piano again, strapping it using professional equipment on a shipping pallet, contacting a freight forwarder and sending it back to Germany....

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#2047449 - 03/13/13 03:29 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: theJourney]
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Well, it is bulky but not nearly as heavy as an acoustic upright. I'll have to think about it some more, I guess, but thomann really seems like the best choice since stores that can supply this model are few and far between around here.

Thanks for your insight, theJourney.
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#2047454 - 03/13/13 03:50 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Kenny J]
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When you say far, do you mean that Germany is closer to you?
I think that TJ has the reason here, and his is a wise advice. The mere possibility of something going wrong with your CA95 in a 3rd floor with no elevator (in Prague!) is so scary...It's not about being pesimistic, here, but realistic.
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#2047458 - 03/13/13 04:04 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: mabraman]
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Not really closer but the only shop that to me seems trustworthy enough has this model available only upon direct request, most likely when a full order is placed (though I don't have this confirmed yet). Moreover, thomann's 3-year warranty instead of the usual 2-year is a nice plus as well.

I agree that the hassle with transportation from/to Germany is annoying though.

(And for the record, the house I live in does have an elevator, it's just not big enough. frown And to make things worse, it's the 6th floor, not the 3rd. wink )


Edited by Clayman (03/13/13 09:57 AM)
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#2047461 - 03/13/13 04:23 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: theJourney]
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Originally Posted By: theJourney

(...)
The new Roland HP-507 is an amazing instrument with the PHA-III keyboard & Supernatural sound and new features that make sense like early fortepiano sounds for baroque early classical playing, automatic power off in case you close the lid without powering off first and very easy USB integration to make playing along with your favorite minus 1 tracks a pleasure, etc. etc.
(...)


The "early" sounds are more of marketing than of real use. Almost any digital piano has a harpsichord sound coming with it, or? Having it packed in a sound group called "early" is not enough to make it sound good. If you switch after playing the standard SN piano sound (which is excellent) to the harpsichord sound, you also have to go in the functions menue and change the KeyOff and and Resonance settings to get it somehow right, what´s really a lot of work for just wanting to change the sound - and it still will not at all become a nicely one to play. It is actually one of the worst I met. There are then a variation of it, with an octave higher sounding harpsichord layered over the harpsichord sound, and something called "A dream-like sound that can sound like a piano or a harpsichord.", which has absolutely nothing to do with an "early" sound, but more with a $20 plastic baby toy from the supermarket. You will stay with one "fortepiano" sound, which is available in 2 more copies with differnt EQ setting. That´s it. Hmmm, I think you can see that I am really disappointment of this "early" marketing trick. I would wish that all sales agents who intent to do a fair-minded job to their customer would clarify this to their customers.
Nevertheless, although being much disappointed about any 'extras', I love my HP-505 for its excellent keybed and primary piano sound. If you just search for such basic digital piano functionality, then it is unbeatable.


Edited by Marco M (03/14/13 08:34 AM)
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#2047481 - 03/13/13 06:20 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Marco M]
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Originally Posted By: Marco M
Almost any digital piano has a harpischord sound coming with it, or?


The Roland HP-507 has two different harpsichords and as a key differentiator: four different fortepianos. I am not familiar with any other digital piano in this class that includes fortepianos.

I have played them in a store and find them very convincing for playing Haydn and even Schubert, for example. I very much wish that they were included on my HP-307.

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#2048075 - 03/14/13 08:09 AM Re: A review of the Kawai CA95 [Re: Marco M]
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Originally Posted By: Marco M

The "early" sounds are more of marketing than of real use...


I just received some interesting, and especially very reliable information on the 'early' sounds, and therefore have to admit that my above statement might not reflect the situation properly. I might have some problems with my ears or with the sound settings on my DP, because the harpsichord sound 'should be' a really good one as it is based on the ROLAND C-30 digital harpsichord sound. I will carefully check my settings in my HP-505 once more, especially for getting rid of that very annoying, loud 'iiuuuopp' sound which often appears upon releasing a key and which I so far did not find to be controllable by the way I touch the keys.


Edited by Marco M (03/14/13 08:35 AM)
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