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#2044649 - 03/07/13 05:07 PM Chords fingering
Franklin Lautert Offline
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Registered: 03/06/13
Posts: 3
Loc: Rio de Janeiro
Hi all,
Just two weeks ago I decided to put to some use the keyboard my daughter received in her birthday in June. I read much of the theory, and I think I understand it well enough. My goal for now is just to play some pop songs to sing along. I started with Let It Be and Imagine, and I am having fun smile
Anyway, my biggest issue now is to do the chords with the right hand with the standard fingering (curiously it is easier with the left hand). For instance, when I play a C major chord with all fingers at the same time, it is much easier to use fingers 1, 2 and 4 or 1, 2 and 5 than to use fingers 1, 3 and 5. And when I play only the two higher notes (and then the root note with the thumb) it is even harder to use fingers 3 and 5 alone (the ring finger begs to go down together).
I think it is something I could exercise, but it is not so fun wink Can I live with a non-standard fingering, provided I am consistent, or will it hinder me to play more complex songs? What if I get really hooked and decide to play “serious” piano (classical, jazz, etc), will I regret to relax by now?
Thanks a lot.

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#2044665 - 03/07/13 05:30 PM Re: Chords fingering [Re: Franklin Lautert]
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Registered: 02/25/13
Posts: 88
Loc: Gold Coast, Australia
I think fingering can be a personal thing - hand shapes, dexterity, etc. and I think you can probably get away with it a lot of the time. In my (limited) experience however, I've found that sticking to the designated "official" fingering can sometime lead to an "aha" moment. That is, you suddenly realise the reason for using a particular (perhaps tricky) fingering was to get the hand set for the next note/chord. If you've gone for individualised fingering, you might have to do that sort of work yourself.
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#2044667 - 03/07/13 05:39 PM Re: Chords fingering [Re: Franklin Lautert]
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Since you are using a non-standard fingering (1,2,4), you should probably try the (1,3,5) fingering periodically just to help with the dexterity of things. I doubt if using 1,2,4 will cause you any serious issues "down the road". As you progress, deciding which fingers to use becomes less conventional and more a function of which ones work more smoothly for a given passage.
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#2044669 - 03/07/13 05:44 PM Re: Chords fingering [Re: dmd]
Franklin Lautert Offline
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Registered: 03/06/13
Posts: 3
Loc: Rio de Janeiro
Thank you all.
I asked because I started playing tennis before taking lessons and I regret it today. But I will take the suggestion of trying to use the standard fingering now and then, with time it may became less awkward.

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#2044758 - 03/07/13 08:22 PM Re: Chords fingering [Re: Franklin Lautert]
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You should experiment with all fingerings, since you will have to use everything at some point. Even things like 1-2-3 or 2-4-5 can be necessary depending on what notes come before or after.
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#2045389 - 03/09/13 07:05 AM Re: Chords fingering [Re: Franklin Lautert]
Steve Nixon Offline
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Registered: 04/18/10
Posts: 216
Loc: Chicago
Originally Posted By: Franklin Lautert
Hi all,
Just two weeks ago I decided to put to some use the keyboard my daughter received in her birthday in June. I read much of the theory, and I think I understand it well enough. My goal for now is just to play some pop songs to sing along. I started with Let It Be and Imagine, and I am having fun smile
Anyway, my biggest issue now is to do the chords with the right hand with the standard fingering (curiously it is easier with the left hand). For instance, when I play a C major chord with all fingers at the same time, it is much easier to use fingers 1, 2 and 4 or 1, 2 and 5 than to use fingers 1, 3 and 5. And when I play only the two higher notes (and then the root note with the thumb) it is even harder to use fingers 3 and 5 alone (the ring finger begs to go down together).
I think it is something I could exercise, but it is not so fun wink Can I live with a non-standard fingering, provided I am consistent, or will it hinder me to play more complex songs? What if I get really hooked and decide to play “serious” piano (classical, jazz, etc), will I regret to relax by now?
Thanks a lot.


In general basic triad fingering is usually 1-3-5 although there are always variations depending on certain musical situations. I would recommend you get comfortable with that 1-3-5 shape though. This will be very helpful as you progress and you play pieces that will have your hands in the basic 5 finger position.

On a higher level of thinking fingering decisions really should be based off of where you're going to next in the piece. Whatever fingering you use should set you up for a smooth transition into your next notes.

My guess is that the reason why 1-2-5 feels most comfortable is because you're 3rd finger is very flat. Make sure it has a proper curl and that should help

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#2045765 - 03/10/13 03:11 AM Re: Chords fingering [Re: Franklin Lautert]
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Registered: 09/23/10
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Actually, the 4 is the weakest finger of the hand. So, I always use all other available fingers. If you get into the habit of playing triads with 1-2-5 or 1-3-5 this will make it harder to get used to playing 7th chords. If you're playing a triad, you should still have your 5 available to turn it into a 7th (or 6th) chord. Therefore, I play my triads 1-2-3. And half the time I do add a fourth note.....because I can, since my 5 finger was available. Don't make one of your own fingers unavailable to play a better chord!
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