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#2045498 - 03/09/13 01:01 PM 'Balanced Programme' Requirement in Trinity Guildhall exams
digitalsarah Offline
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Registered: 12/16/12
Posts: 3
Loc: London, UK
Hello,

I'm preparing for Grade 8 with Trinity Guildhall and would like advice concerning what constitutes a 'balanced programme'. Is a programme balanced due to different periods of music, different styles, different tempos? And are there situations where a programme would be penalised for not being 'balanced'.

Here are my current chosen pieces - I am concerned that they don't cover a large enough time period range and are all quite 'Romantic':

- Chopin, Waltz in A Flat Minor (Farewell) (1833)
- Granados, Andalucia , No. 5 in Spanish Dances (1890)
- Beach, Scottish Legend (1903)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

(I apologise in advance if there is already a thread on this topic, but I've looked through and couldn't find information on this in the Forums or on other sites)
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#2045541 - 03/09/13 03:01 PM Re: 'Balanced Programme' Requirement in Trinity Guildhall exams [Re: digitalsarah]
ten left thumbs Offline
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Hi Sarah,

I'm not all that familiar with TG, but if they want balance, then that's probably in historical period. You could probably get away with 2 romantic/20th C if you put in a baroque/early classical.

Won't your teacher guide you?
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#2045547 - 03/09/13 03:35 PM Re: 'Balanced Programme' Requirement in Trinity Guildhall exams [Re: digitalsarah]
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Registered: 04/18/09
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Loc: *sigh* Salt Lake City
www.trinitycollege.co.uk/resource/?id=1962

excerpts:

"A balanced programme of four pieces is selected to demonstrate the technical, musical and interpretative range of the player's abilities."

"Examiners will award marks for the artistry and effectiveness of the programme's design and the balance of contrasts in styles and tempi within the programme."
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#2045799 - 03/10/13 05:41 AM Re: 'Balanced Programme' Requirement in Trinity Guildhall exams [Re: ten left thumbs]
digitalsarah Offline
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Registered: 12/16/12
Posts: 3
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
I'm not all that familiar with TG, but if they want balance, then that's probably in historical period. You could probably get away with 2 romantic/20th C if you put in a baroque/early classical.

Won't your teacher guide you?


Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately I don't currently have a teacher, and in London its like pulling teeth trying to get one! Most have no availability and where they have, I've had to 'audition' for one where I wasn't accepted since I didn't memorize my pieces and couldn't compose; whilst the other teacher I met with said that she had a 100% pass rate and wasn't prepared to take a risk on me!

Perhaps I should do a thread on piano teachers in my area on here...
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TG Grade 6 (2002), currently studying for Grade 8 (2013) & ten years self-taught.
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Currently playing: Chopin - Waltz in A Flat Minor

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#2045804 - 03/10/13 05:49 AM Re: 'Balanced Programme' Requirement in Trinity Guildhall exams [Re: malkin]
digitalsarah Offline
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Registered: 12/16/12
Posts: 3
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
www.trinitycollege.co.uk/resource/?id=1962

excerpts:

"A balanced programme of four pieces is selected to demonstrate the technical, musical and interpretative range of the player's abilities."

"Examiners will award marks for the artistry and effectiveness of the programme's design and the balance of contrasts in styles and tempi within the programme."


Thanks for this, I have spent a lot of time searching their site but I was only looking at Grade 8 specifically and didn't consider looking higher (this doc is for the Certificate).

I guess this other extract from that doc answers my specific question: 'a wide stylistic and historical cross-section of the instrument’s repertoire.'

So, my programme above doesn't meet the requirement. Next issue is that I really dislike Baroque / Early Classical style - one of the main reasons I'm with TG not ABRSM - so if I just replaced the Amy Beach with the jazz piece, that might fix this issue.
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TG Grade 6 (2002), currently studying for Grade 8 (2013) & ten years self-taught.
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Currently playing: Chopin - Waltz in A Flat Minor

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#2045825 - 03/10/13 08:17 AM Re: 'Balanced Programme' Requirement in Trinity Guildhall exams [Re: digitalsarah]
ten left thumbs Offline
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Registered: 05/22/09
Posts: 3336
Loc: Scotland
As you already have grade 6, would the comments from that exam help you now? Doing a jazz or boogie number would definitely help, demonstrate you can do more than just one thing. Is there no Beethoven you could enjoy that would tick that box?

As for getting a local teacher, ABRSM and I think TG also have their own forums so you could post there. This forum is mostly N America-based. Thing is, you want a teacher who will do advanced, and many of them don't advertise but go only by personal recommendation.
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#2045851 - 03/10/13 10:31 AM Re: 'Balanced Programme' Requirement in Trinity Guildhall exams [Re: digitalsarah]
malkin Offline
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Registered: 04/18/09
Posts: 2515
Loc: *sigh* Salt Lake City
Originally Posted By: digitalsarah

Thanks for this, I have spent a lot of time searching their site but I was only looking at Grade 8 specifically and didn't consider looking higher (this doc is for the Certificate).


I found it via Google search for: balanced programme Trinity Guildhall

Best wishes for your exam!


Edited by malkin (03/10/13 10:32 AM)
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#2046118 - 03/10/13 07:14 PM Re: 'Balanced Programme' Requirement in Trinity Guildhall exams [Re: digitalsarah]
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Registered: 05/15/11
Posts: 65
Loc: Hobart, Australia
With regards to finding a teacher in London, have you tried posting on the ABRSM forum? There are a lot of qualified and experienced teachers who post there who certainly don't have the attitude that you've encountered! Maybe give that a shot. I'm sure your exam experience will be much better overall with a little guidance.
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