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#2044335 - 03/07/13 05:11 AM Piano benches
ntw001 Offline
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Registered: 01/18/10
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Loc: Kent, UK.
Hi all - does anyone know if there's a suitable forum here where they talk about piano stools and benches?

Looking to buy one and wondered if anyone could recommend any manufacturers.
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#2044351 - 03/07/13 06:27 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
Ed Foote Offline
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Greetings,
If you buy a Jansen, you will never need another one, and it will be looked at in future years as the best investment you could have made. Adjustable, comfortable, and durable. I see a lot of much cheaper benches that look just like them, but nothing else holds up as well. I take care of over 30 of them at a music school and there is no one else in comparison when you get to the adjustable artist benches.
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#2044353 - 03/07/13 06:31 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: Ed Foote]
Rich Galassini Offline
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Originally Posted By: Ed Foote
Greetings,
If you buy a Jansen, you will never need another one, and it will be looked at in future years as the best investment you could have made. Adjustable, comfortable, and durable. I see a lot of much cheaper benches that look just like them, but nothing else holds up as well. I take care of over 30 of them at a music school and there is no one else in comparison when you get to the adjustable artist benches.
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My most common thought after reading a post by Ed Foote is... Ditto! wink
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#2044356 - 03/07/13 06:51 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
Dave Horne Offline
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I've used expensive office chairs for the last 20+ years and will never go back to a piano bench or piano stool. I go for comfort and back support.
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#2044357 - 03/07/13 06:51 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
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Jansen.
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#2044391 - 03/07/13 08:37 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
Minnesota Marty Offline

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Jansen - If you are looking for an adjustable bench.

For fixed position benches, there are many good options.
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#2044409 - 03/07/13 09:08 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
dcb Offline
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Registered: 05/15/10
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I bought a Jansen bench a couple years ago and thought it was a ridiculous amount of money to spend on a bench, but now that I have one...I consider it the best investment ever. Totally worth the money. If you have the money, I would not hesitate to buy one and be done. Last bench you will ever buy.

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#2044416 - 03/07/13 09:19 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
Morodiene Offline
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I have several artist benches. One I believe is a Jansen (came with my Petrof) and I love it. The others are cheaper versions and one tilts a bit when you lean to one side to reach the keys, which can be quite disconcerting. The other is fine, but not as comfortable. You get what you pay for.
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#2044438 - 03/07/13 09:56 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
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Don't know if you many Jansen benches make it to the UK, so a more available alternative I am fond of are benches from Hidrau Model.
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#2044528 - 03/07/13 01:41 PM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
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There are other excellent benches as well. Concertmaster comes to mind.

In Europe, you have access to high quality benches from Italy and Spain with pneumatic height adjustments etc.
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#2044834 - 03/07/13 11:34 PM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
manofsong Offline
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#2044852 - 03/08/13 12:39 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
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Registered: 10/03/10
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Loc: Los Angeles
is there a certain model jansen that is popular?

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#2044869 - 03/08/13 01:48 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
Pianolance Offline
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Registered: 07/28/09
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Loc: Nashville, TN
Any discussion about benches always brings out the Jansen fanboys thumb
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#2044945 - 03/08/13 08:38 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
BoseEric Offline
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Registered: 03/08/06
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Loc: Fairfield County, CT
Hidrau Model makes excellent benches including the pneumatic BM45H.

Jansen benches are well made but not trouble free. They have such ubiquity here because they are, as far as I know, the only domestic bench maker.
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#2044983 - 03/08/13 10:06 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
Rich Galassini Offline
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Actually, the Hidrau pneumatic bench IS awfuly cool and we have sold them to some very high line piano buyers.

I am not sure why I did not mention them as well.
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#2044984 - 03/08/13 10:09 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
Steven Y. A. Offline
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Registered: 01/14/13
Posts: 292
Loc: Toronto
amazon got a whole bunch. seem like budget friendly option.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_seeall_3?rh=k%3Aartist+bench%2Ci%3Ami&keywords=artist+bench&ie=UTF8&qid=1362755272
reviews are positive
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#2045453 - 03/09/13 10:31 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
malkin Offline
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Registered: 04/18/09
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Loc: *sigh* Salt Lake City
I believe mine was made in Spain, but I don't know the manufacturer. Not quite as massive and far from as pricey as a Jansen, but it is a nice size duet bench, adjustable, and sturdy enough for all purposes so far. I don't like the fabric on top and now that it is showing some wear I am planning to have it reupholstered with leather.
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#2046259 - 03/10/13 11:29 PM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
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Registered: 02/19/13
Posts: 36
Loc: Paris, France
Italian benches "Collezione Lanzani" are great, too. And expensive!

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#2048066 - 03/14/13 07:33 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
crogersrx Offline
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Registered: 07/25/08
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Loc: San Francisco, CA
A good Jansen bench will set you back around $600 to $850, depending on if you get the standard one person bench or the duet bench. I highly recommend the duet bench for a couple hundred dollars more. Even if you never play a duet with someone, having the extra bench space is comfy. My cat sits by me when I play, so that gives us both room, and sometimes I sit music or something on the bench instead of up on the music desk (less risk of things falling into the piano). It really is a SOLID bench with a mechanism that is smooth and built to last literally a lifetime. Sure, if you go to a music school, there may be a few that have taken a beating and are no longer rock solid, but if those were any other bench, they'd have been matchwood with the beating a Jansen can take.

I bought a Jansen Artist Duet with leather upholstery, which my cat promptly custom perforated. In retrospect, I don't see the need for spending the extra for leather, as all the naugahyde Jansens I've seen look wonderful and endure a beating better than natural leather. It will set you back $800-$850 these days, but you will NEVER regret it. Amortize that $850 over a lifetime and it's cheaper by far than buying multiple "settle-for" benches that are not as solid, comfortable, or enduring as a Jansen. I have a friend that bought a Jansen after having spent nearly $700 over 15 years on knock-off benches that were flimsy and fell apart in 5 years or so.

Splurge, and get yourself a Jansen.
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#2048094 - 03/14/13 08:54 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
Roger Ransom Offline
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Registered: 01/19/05
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Loc: SouthWest Michigan
Jansen makes good piano benches of course. But to think that all others fall apart in five years is not true.

I have an artist bench that I don't even know the brand of that cost me hundreds less. I expect the mechanism is not as smooth but then I NEVER readjusted it after I first got it so I couldn't care less. It does not rock, is solid and heavy and has lasted about 20 years so far and shows no signs of falling apart. In fact it looks as good as new and I play about 2 hours a day.

If you can afford it, go for it. However, there are other options just as comfortable and satisfying for much less money. Not everyone has $600 to $800 to spend on a bench to sit on.
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#2048169 - 03/14/13 11:58 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
Jeff Clef Offline
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Registered: 10/05/08
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Loc: San Jose, CA
"... But to think that all others fall apart in five years is not true..."

Correct. Some take less than five years.

BTW, that duet Artist's Bench is a real backbreaker; if you have two people playing (for example, a teacher and a child) you may be better off with two single-width benches anyway.

A cat does not need an $800 bench to keep you company on.
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#2048180 - 03/14/13 12:34 PM Re: Piano benches [Re: Jeff Clef]
Roger Ransom Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jeff Clef

Correct. Some take less than five years.


Probably true but I can only relate my own good experience. I doubt if I'm unique.
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#2048188 - 03/14/13 12:46 PM Re: Piano benches [Re: Jeff Clef]
PianoWorksATL Offline
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Loc: Atlanta, GA
Originally Posted By: Jeff Clef
...if you have two people playing (for example, a teacher and a child) you may be better off with two single-width benches anyway.
This is a better option for most people, though rarely do people consider it. Getting one very good bench and an affordable second bench for occasional use works well.
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#2420367 - 05/14/15 10:18 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
Spokeydoke Offline
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Registered: 05/13/15
Posts: 2
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I know this is an old post, but I am just in the process of buying a new Jansen bench. I am deciding between the vinyl and leather option and have read all the threads It appears people have opinions both ways. However, I was wondering if anyone can tell me what the condition of their benches are like after years of use eg. 10 yrs, for the vinyl and for the leather Jansen Adjustable Artist bench.

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#2420451 - 05/14/15 02:21 PM Re: Piano benches [Re: Spokeydoke]
hoola Offline
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Registered: 07/07/08
Posts: 240
Loc: LA, USA
I have 2 benches, 1 leather, 1 vinyl. Now I vote for vinyl because of the easy care, we can clean it easily with soap and water.

My wife uses the vinyl for teaching. Some students are not clean and vinyl allows her to sanitize the bench very easily, frequently. The leather is much more difficult to be cleaned even we use it less.


Edited by hoola (05/14/15 02:22 PM)

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#2421148 - 05/16/15 08:46 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: hoola]
Spokeydoke Offline
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Registered: 05/13/15
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Thanks Hoola. Now since you have both, is there a noticeable difference in comfort between the two?

Thanks in advance!

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#2421377 - 05/16/15 10:34 PM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
hoola Offline
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Loc: LA, USA
For the butt, same feeling.

For the touch by hand, nearly the same feeling, because the leather of my piano bench is not of high quality, it's still stiff (I have a leather sofa, Chinese leather but high quality which is very soft and comfortable, very pleasing to touch, silkylike).

For the look, leather is more artistic, authentic, after applying leather-care product on it not evenly (I applied unevenly by accident, not on purpose), the shade and reflection of leather in different places are different, which give life-like look, place where you sit on the most will be different, more shiny, smoother. My leather double bench is around $400 (made in China, so quality is so so), I guess that a more expensive leather bench will have a much better look, better touch.

My wife, because of her teaching profession, is more sensitive to hygiene problem, she told me that a lot of girls at puberty age have not known how to keep themselves clean, sometimes they are so smelly, and my wife has to give them advices, and cleans the bench frequenly ... this can be done only on a vinyl bench. Learning from this experience, my wife tries to keep herself clean when using the leather bench because she knows that leather does not allow a frequent cleaning.

In brief, for a frequent use, especially when it is used by a woman population, vinyl is better for easy care.


Edited by hoola (05/16/15 10:36 PM)

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#2421908 - 05/18/15 07:30 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
MacMacMac Offline
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Registered: 09/24/09
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Loc: North Carolina
I wonder how a high-priced bench differs? My duet bench came with the purchase of a Kawai 50" upright in 1996. The bench, like the piano, was used. No brand marking, just a no-name wonder. But it's comfortable. It's not adjustable, but its 19" height is just right for me.

I no longer have that piano, but I still have the bench. I've replaced the vinyl cover for $5. Other than that I've had no problems. It supports my 250 pounds, with no wobble and no squeaks.

I've had it for 19 years, and who knows how old it was before I got it.

How much more could I expect from a quality Jansen bench?

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#2421914 - 05/18/15 08:00 AM Re: Piano benches [Re: ntw001]
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On the subject of leather care one of the best products I have found is Nivea.
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