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#2048221 - 03/14/13 02:02 PM Jazz Tutorials
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Hi, I have a Piece of Music by Fabre & Fabre out of the Book called Ragtime & Marches. Im having a hard time getting the timimg for this piece. My Question Is to anyone out there could you send me a Tutorial on this exact piece In Video of a close up as to how to play this piece, I seem to be the type of person that I need to watch and hear it being played so I can get It. Please someone can you please respond to me on this subject. Thanks In advance. smile Viki

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#2048226 - 03/14/13 02:06 PM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Viki]
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Im sorry! I forgot to add the name of my piece which is called Original Rags.

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#2048254 - 03/14/13 03:01 PM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Viki]
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Could you scan the music and put it up on this site? I doubt many of the pianists on here own those method books, except for the teachers maybe. wink

Make sure it isn't copyrighted.
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#2048290 - 03/14/13 04:00 PM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Viki]
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Are you talking about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d72mZVxdylA
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#2048343 - 03/14/13 05:48 PM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: TheodorN]
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Yes, That Is the one that Im talking about but Its way to hard for me and I have the Fabre & Fabre Piano Book that has the Song Original Rags and Its allot easier and I cant get the Timming to It. Viki

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#2048345 - 03/14/13 05:51 PM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Polyphonist]
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Oh, I looked at my Piano Book and It Is Copy righted so I can't scan It. frown Now I dont know what to do. I just need to watch someone else Play It but In a slower and a closer look at the piano. If you understand what Im saying. smile Viki

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#2048383 - 03/14/13 07:34 PM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Viki]
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Do you have a teacher?
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#2048386 - 03/14/13 07:45 PM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Viki]
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Originally Posted By: Viki
Oh, I looked at my Piano Book and It Is Copy righted so I can't scan It. frown


If the piece you are learning is the actual rendition of Original Rags, published in 1899, then that piece, like all Joplin ragtime, has long since entered the public domain and you needn't worry about the copyright.

You might have a rearrangement or reduction though and that's possibly still covered by copyright.

Here's a link to Joplin's "Original Rags": http://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/c/c2/IMSLP03061-Joplin-OriginalRags.pdf. Is that the piece you are working on? If so, then is there a particular measure causing problems?

Alternatively, is it just ragtime syncopation that's proving difficult? Getting your hands to move independently can be challenging to learn. If it's the actual notation and explication of the rhythms that is confusing, it might help you to look at the six exercises in Joplin's "School of Ragtime" http://www.ragtimepiano.ca/images/schoolofrag.pdf. While this isn't by any means an exhaustive primer on ragtime, he's got some notation in the exercises that tries to demonstrate how the duration of notes in the bass clef relates to the duration of notes in the treble.
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#2048395 - 03/14/13 08:04 PM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Polyphonist]
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Yes, I do have a teacher. Its just sometimes that It helps to have someone other than your teacher to explain In a diffrent way.

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#2048396 - 03/14/13 08:05 PM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Whizbang]
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Thank You so much for your Information. I take a look at what your talking about. Thanks Again! Viki

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#2048403 - 03/14/13 08:15 PM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Viki]
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Originally Posted By: Viki
Yes, I do have a teacher. Its just sometimes that It helps to have someone other than your teacher to explain In a diffrent way.


Have you asked your teacher to play it for you? wink
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#2048459 - 03/14/13 11:12 PM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Viki]
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One option is to download the YouTube video from BachScholar and play it slowly on the VLC Media Player. That way you can study his hand movements and finger choices.


Edited by Pianotehead (03/14/13 11:14 PM)
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#2048611 - 03/15/13 07:52 AM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Viki]
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Yes, My teacher had played it for me but just once. Thanks for your help. I do appriciate your replays back.

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#2048613 - 03/15/13 07:53 AM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: TheodorN]
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Thank You!

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#2048659 - 03/15/13 10:06 AM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Viki]
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If you have a smartphone, you can make a video of what your teacher plays for later review. There are even apps to slow down the video at replay. I do this all the time at my lessons and find it is very helpful.
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#2048689 - 03/15/13 11:53 AM Re: Jazz Tutorials [Re: Viki]
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While "Fair Use" is an increasingly marginalized aspect of copyright, if you had some specific questions about the rhythm in a specific part of your piece, you'd probably be reasonably in the clear if you scanned in and uploaded an image of just that short excerpt along with your questions.

(But Iamnotalawyer)
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