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#2050110 - 03/18/13 08:15 AM Yamaha DGX 640
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Any thought out there on this one?

I need a DP to play out - ruggedneess
and versitiliy are more important than a
pure sound.

Also, any experience with the half-pedaling
feature?
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#2050116 - 03/18/13 08:29 AM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: Scott Hamlin]
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What do you mean by 'play out'?
As in gigging?

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#2050122 - 03/18/13 08:38 AM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: Kawai James]
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Not exactly gigging... playing
for music theatre. I would call
light gigging.


Edited by Plinky88 (03/18/13 08:40 AM)
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#2050131 - 03/18/13 08:57 AM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: Scott Hamlin]
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Originally Posted By: Plinky88
ruggedneess
and versitiliy are more important than a
pure sound.

The DGX640 is below average in versatility for playing outside your home/studio because it has no MIDI ports (only USB), limiting the ability to easily expand its sound palette with other devices, or to connect other MIDI control devices to it. At about 45 lbs, it's not the easiest to carry around, either, especially if you intend to put it in a case, though there are worse.

What features drew you to this model in the first place? Do you necessarily need something with built-in speakers? Lots of sounds? Auto-accompaniment? Knowing which features are and aren't important to you will help people make alternate suggestions.

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#2050141 - 03/18/13 09:23 AM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: Scott Hamlin]
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...and what's your maximum budget?
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#2050151 - 03/18/13 09:52 AM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: Scott Hamlin]
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Hmm, it gets good reviews. Shame about the lack of MIDI though especially if you wanted to synch it with other devices or record with cubase or similar. But if you just want piano it sounds good-sub £600 too!
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#2050153 - 03/18/13 10:00 AM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: LarryShone]
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Originally Posted By: LarryShone
Hmm, it gets good reviews. Shame about the lack of MIDI though especially if you wanted to synch it with other devices or record with cubase or similar.

It does have USB, so integrating with a computer (i.e. cubase) should not be an issue.

That said, Yamahas are generally not class-compliant, meaning that a future upgrade to your OS could prevent their driver from working until they provide an update. The issue is somewhat theoretical, in that Yamaha has been very good about updating their drivers as needed, but it could become an issue if, at some point, Yamaha stops providing new updates for older models. Standard MIDI ports are the safest things to have, but class-compliant USB is better than non-class compliant. I seem to remember reading that there are some older non-compliant Casios that have trouble with new OS versions. Casio has transitioned to class compliance so it's not an issue with any current/recent models, though.

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#2050171 - 03/18/13 10:44 AM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: anotherscott]
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$600-$700 is about my top spend -

Thanks for the input guys!
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#2050178 - 03/18/13 10:53 AM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: Scott Hamlin]
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Casio PX-150, or PX-350 if you can stretch another $100.

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#2050183 - 03/18/13 11:01 AM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: anotherscott]
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Originally Posted By: anotherscott
Originally Posted By: LarryShone
Hmm, it gets good reviews. Shame about the lack of MIDI though especially if you wanted to synch it with other devices or record with cubase or similar.

It does have USB, so integrating with a computer (i.e. cubase) should not be an issue.


So youre saying that USB carries the same data as MIDI ports?
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#2050195 - 03/18/13 11:29 AM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: LarryShone]
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Originally Posted By: LarryShone
So youre saying that USB carries the same data as MIDI ports?

Yes. It's not true universally... some keyboards that have USB and MIDI ports use USB for other functions and require that you use their MIDI ports for MIDI functions (some Nords for example). In other cases, you can configure it different ways... i.e. on some Yamahas, you choose whether to send MIDI out the USB or MIDI ports. Some boards allow you to send MIDI out both the USB and MIDI connections simultaneously. But keyboards that only have USB ports send and receive their MIDI data over USB. That's fine for connecting to a computer, but creates issues if you are trying to connect to other devices that, themselves, only have standard MIDI ports.

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#2050206 - 03/18/13 11:59 AM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: Scott Hamlin]
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Ah see I used to have a Korg Poly 800 synth that I would synch with my current Yamaha and one keyboard might control the other and vice versa. The Korg had a built in sequencer which would send its data to the yamaha etc. That wouldnt work via USB.
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#2050208 - 03/18/13 12:05 PM Re: Yamaha DGX 640 [Re: LarryShone]
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KW-

That Casio PX-350 looks great. Really like
the direct to USB record function.. may be
a little pricey for me.. but I will be looking
at the PX tonite!
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