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#2053542 - 03/24/13 03:39 PM Which Mozart to learn first?
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I've never played any Mozart. I'm interested in these four sonatas: K.281, K.330, K.331, K.333 and also the K.485 Rondo, but especially the K.330 sonata.

Is the K.330 too advanced for someone who has never played Mozart?

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#2053550 - 03/24/13 03:55 PM Re: Which Mozart to learn first? [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW

Is the K.330 too advanced for someone who has never played Mozart?


K330 is one of Mozart's most popular piano sonatas, and with good reason.

As long as you have a very fluent scale and arpeggio technique (Mozart on his passagework: they should 'flow like oil'), you should learn the sonata you like, rather than what someone tells you. That's the dictum I've always subscribed to: there's nothing worse than learning something out of a sense of 'duty' - as long as you're advanced enough to know what you can do, and have a good knowledge of the repertoire.

Mozart exposes technical deficiences (like weak fingers, uneven passagework and arpeggios, fudged ornaments etc) like no other composer, because his piano writing is so exposed. You can't hide behind pedal wash....
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#2053719 - 03/24/13 10:07 PM Re: Which Mozart to learn first? [Re: JoelW]
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Must you start with a Sonata? There are several stand-alone shorter keyboard pieces that might be a good introduction to Mozart, such as the Romance in A-flat major, the Fantasie in D minor, a more than have a dozen Rondos and a B-minor Adagio. Many, many more, all available on IMSLP.

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#2053852 - 03/25/13 08:16 AM Re: Which Mozart to learn first? [Re: JoelW]
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I always thought K283 was a good starting sonata.
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#2054061 - 03/25/13 02:45 PM Re: Which Mozart to learn first? [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
I've never played any Mozart. I'm interested in these four sonatas: K.281, K.330, K.331, K.333 and also the K.485 Rondo, but especially the K.330 sonata.

Is the K.330 too advanced for someone who has never played Mozart?

Nah, go for it.
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#2059872 - 04/05/13 02:27 PM Re: Which Mozart to learn first? [Re: JoelW]
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I agree with Bruce about some of the other pieces, particularly the B-minor Adagio. But of the sonatas that you listed the 330 is a good choice. I find the 331 tiresome, and it contains the horribly overplayed Rondo Alla Turca. I adore 333. It's probably my favorite Mozart sonata. But it's a bigger scale work than the 330.

Go with your gut on this one. Buy and follow a good edition (I like Henle)and pedal very sparingly.

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#2060041 - 04/05/13 09:01 PM Re: Which Mozart to learn first? [Re: JoelW]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
I've never played any Mozart. I'm interested in these four sonatas: K.281, K.330, K.331, K.333 and also the K.485 Rondo, but especially the K.330 sonata.

Is the K.330 too advanced for someone who has never played Mozart?


It depends, how familiar are you with classical period technique and style? If you've worked on some of the sonatina literature and are comfortable with Clementi, Kuhlau, Haydn, Dussek, etc., then Mozart might be fine. If you're trying to skip all those intermediate steps, then a Mozart sonata will likely be frustrating and/or not particularly well played.
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#2060106 - 04/05/13 11:48 PM Re: Which Mozart to learn first? [Re: Kreisler]
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
I've never played any Mozart. I'm interested in these four sonatas: K.281, K.330, K.331, K.333 and also the K.485 Rondo, but especially the K.330 sonata.

Is the K.330 too advanced for someone who has never played Mozart?


It depends, how familiar are you with classical period technique and style? If you've worked on some of the sonatina literature and are comfortable with Clementi, Kuhlau, Haydn, Dussek, etc., then Mozart might be fine. If you're trying to skip all those intermediate steps, then a Mozart sonata will likely be frustrating and/or not particularly well played.


I have never played any classical, only romantic and later. I've toyed around with Mozart's Rondo Alla Turca and I can say that my technique does permit me to play it well. I am aware that this is one of Mozart's easier pieces, no? But anyway, I think you're right. Maybe I should try some of those composers you mentioned first. Haydn interests me greatly ever since I saw this video. Totally genius! I'm listening to the full sonata as I write this, but I'd certainly love to explore the rest of his sonatas.

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