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#2053630 - 03/24/13 06:34 PM Need Advice for Piano as Second Instrument
Joe1871 Offline
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Registered: 03/24/13
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Hi,

I am a guitarist, been playing for > 45 years. I have a fairly strong grasp on theory, sight reading the treble clef, harmony, etc. I play jazz from lead sheets (Real Book etc) and I can spell chords, understand inversions, and read rhythms.

I cant seem to find a piano course or program that takes this into account. I get bored with beginner programs that focus on a lot of introductory information. If anyone knows of a good online program that is a "piano as a second instrument" kind of course I would really appreciate the info.

Thanks in advance.

Joe

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#2053649 - 03/24/13 07:10 PM Re: Need Advice for Piano as Second Instrument [Re: Joe1871]
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I've only done some some free introductory stuff on his site, but I think Willie Myette's program might fit your bill. He has lots of options for you to put together your own program, focusing on your own interests.

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#2053771 - 03/25/13 01:26 AM Re: Need Advice for Piano as Second Instrument [Re: Joe1871]
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Joe,

I have read your post, here,

I am a guitarist, been playing for > 45 years. I have a fairly strong grasp on theory, sight reading the treble clef, harmony, etc. I play jazz from lead sheets (Real Book etc) and I can spell chords, understand inversions, and read rhythms.

I cant seem to find a piano course or program that takes this into account. I get bored with beginner programs that focus on a lot of introductory information. If anyone knows of a good online program that is a "piano as a second instrument" kind of course I would really appreciate the info.

Joe,

The only thing you have to do is learn to play the piano because the music aspect you already know.

You should go to a large music store and look at all the books on methods because some deal with classical, some with chords, perhaps jazz.

I played a sax so I had to learn, of course, to play the piano.

You still have to train your brain to play the piano. I like the John Thompson Modern Course for the piano because it was thorough, 70 pages per book and there are 5 of them. Each book costs about $10.00. But there are lots of method books so take some time and look at them.

I remind you that in the same way you learned the guitar, slowly and accurately to play the music, the same method is same for every instrument. A very slow process that can't be rushed but enjoyed. You have the wonderful advantage of just slowly ready the music and training your fingers to play the keys of the piano.



Edited by Michael_99 (03/25/13 01:27 AM)

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#2055177 - 03/27/13 03:50 PM Re: Need Advice for Piano as Second Instrument [Re: Joe1871]
Ken. Offline
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It depends on what you mean by piano as a 2nd instrument. There are books like Jazz Keyboard for Pianists and Non-Pianists by Jerry Coker, and Jazz Keyboard Harmony by Phil DeGreg that teach mainly harmony for non-Pianists or for those in which Piano is a 2nd instrument.

I play sax and asked my sax teacher if he knew someone who taught piano and he recommended someone, so I took lessons for 2 years. I like you was not keen about going through the standard beginner books for the same reasons you mention, but she was good in that she taught by giving me a few warmup exercises and then assigning me classical pieces to play. Maybe you could self study like that, and periodically take a lesson to make sure you don't get into any bad habits.

There is a jazz piano book "Beginning Jazz Keyboard" by Noah Baerman but that assumes you have finished Book 1 of Alfred.
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#2055184 - 03/27/13 04:04 PM Re: Need Advice for Piano as Second Instrument [Re: Joe1871]
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Originally Posted By: Joe1871
Hi,

I am a guitarist, been playing for > 45 years. I have a fairly strong grasp on theory, sight reading the treble clef, harmony, etc. I play jazz from lead sheets (Real Book etc) and I can spell chords, understand inversions, and read rhythms.

I cant seem to find a piano course or program that takes this into account. I get bored with beginner programs that focus on a lot of introductory information. If anyone knows of a good online program that is a "piano as a second instrument" kind of course I would really appreciate the info.

Thanks in advance.

Joe


You may not need that introductory information, but you still need to play at the level that your fingers can manage it. This takes time and you shouldn't gloss over it even if you understand how to read the notes and rhythms already. I would go through a standard method book for the sake of getting my fingers used to playing piano and developing a good, tension-free technique as I play these easier pieces. Once I've mastered the technical aspect of playing them, I would move on to the next piece, but I'd pretty much ignore the information given regarding note reading and other theory.


Edited by Morodiene (03/27/13 04:04 PM)
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