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Quick note about youtube: Up until recently I could start the video, pause it for 30 secs or so, for most of it to load in cache and THEN start playing. It worked like a charm.
Recently, however youtube changed its behaviour, probably because too many people were streaming videos like that and not watching and STOPPED me from putting too much data into cache.
Part of the reason this is happening is because youtube (ergo google) changed the way the user caches the data... And it's not in other videos or vimeo or anything like that. Just youtube! Yeah, I'm really not happy with YouTube's service. They've made quite a few changes that may help Google's bottom line, but certainly are not better for the end-user. From what I've found, in order for you to register a new YouTube account, you must first create a Google+ account. If there's a way around this, I'd love to know about it. To me, YouTube is going the way of MySpace the second "Facebook" comes out..
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Upload speed is irrelevant. That is the speed at which data is sent from your computer to the internet. Download speed is all that matters.
You should check whether you are getting Flash video or HTML5 video. Sometimes one works better than another. I think there are preferences within YouTube that control that, but I am by no means expert on that. There may be preferences in your browser or an extension that control that, as well. I use a Mac, so I am not certain. BruceD, BDB is correct. Upload speed is not relevant in this case, though 0.49Mb/s is fairly standard for a private consumer connection. What was your download speed? - It needs to be in the 5Mb+/s range in my experience for good YouTube. Others may have better data on that. Have you re-booted everything yet. My son, an IT guy, finds that fixes 20-30% of the service calls he receives on download speed problems.
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Quick note about youtube: Up until recently I could start the video, pause it for 30 secs or so, for most of it to load in cache and THEN start playing. It worked like a charm.
Recently, however youtube changed its behaviour, probably because too many people were streaming videos like that and not watching and STOPPED me from putting too much data into cache.
Part of the reason this is happening is because youtube (ergo google) changed the way the user caches the data... And it's not in other videos or vimeo or anything like that. Just youtube! This is correct, and in doing so, Google has condemned all people who have a slow connection to never be able to watch a continuous performance on YouTube ever again. It used to be that somebody with a terribly slow connection could patiently wait for the whole video to buffer, and then press play and watch the whole thing. But now the buffering only ever gets about 30 sec ahead of the playing position, so if you have a slow or intermittent connection, you will be stopped every 30-60sec while it loads again. It's highly frustrating. Another downside: as musicians we will frequently want to listen to a passage multiple times - now, instead of being able to go back and listen to it many times in succession with no loading time, it must reload each time because the buffer only works in the forward direction. It's highly suspect reasoning from google. One thing I have noticed however, is that if a YouTube video is embedded on another site, like here on PW, the video does buffer completely like it used to. This annoying new behaviour only applies to the YouTube site itself.
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Thank you all very much for your input.
AndyJ : Being only a single user on my connection, I should be able to watch videos in higher, rather than lower, quality, I believe.... BruceD, Not necessarily. It all comes back to your bandwidth for downloads, that is, how fast your home can receive data from the internet. I've thought of another analogy: plumbing. Forgive me if this evokes unpleasant images, but internet connections are a lot like water and sewer connections. You have a pipe entering your home that delivers fresh water, and a waste pipe leaving your home that returns wastewater. Download speed is like the fresh water capacity, and upload speed is like the wastewater capacity. For our discussion, only the fresh water/download side matters. Viewing a YouTube video is like filling a bathtub. If your water company supplies you with unlimited water AND your inside plumbing is big and free of clogs, your bathtub will fill quickly. If your inside plumbing is old, narrow and clogged, it'll take longer but won't be interrupted. If your water comes from a slow well like mine and you don't have a storage tank, you'll get ten gallons in the tub and then have to wait while the well recharges. The recharge time is called "buffering" in computerspeak. (I know whereof I speak as I lived with that for years. Now I have a beautiful storage tank in the basement which supplies all the water I need.) I hope this helps, Andy
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Upload speed is irrelevant. That is the speed at which data is sent from your computer to the internet. Download speed is all that matters.
You should check whether you are getting Flash video or HTML5 video. Sometimes one works better than another. I think there are preferences within YouTube that control that, but I am by no means expert on that. There may be preferences in your browser or an extension that control that, as well. I use a Mac, so I am not certain. Unless you "opted in" to the trial I linked to above, you are getting Flash on youtube. Try HTML5 + get a quality ad blocker. At least for me, that gives the best youtube experience. Don't have to deal with Flash or ads.
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