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#2046503 - 03/11/13 02:45 PM Re: California (SF vs LA vs SD) [Re: jam8086]
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"...as long as the demographics are geared more towards younger families and less towards retirement age..."

Now that it has been mentioned, I realize that I forgot about this important and emerging demographic of piano students who are returning to study, now that they have time, work is over, the kids are grown up, etc. I guess I don't think about it, the way a fish doesn't think about water.

On the other hand, who knows what a fish thinks.

Anyway, if you want to do in-home lessons, you have two market segments who don't drive (or may not like to): youngsters and oldsters.
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#2046536 - 03/11/13 03:30 PM Re: California (SF vs LA vs SD) [Re: Jennifer Eklund]
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Originally Posted By: Jennifer Eklund
The nice thing about O.C. is the lack of traffic

Try the 405 at 7:30 in the morning. It's a parking lot. Southbound 55 and 57 are pretty bad, too, most of the time.

Originally Posted By: Jennifer Eklund
There are plenty of affluent neighborhoods to teach in, in-home lessons come at a premium and are in demand

Absolutely true! And at the tuition rate these folks are willing to cough up, I was able to quit my other job.
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#2046624 - 03/11/13 06:39 PM Re: California (SF vs LA vs SD) [Re: AZNpiano]
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Originally Posted By: AZNpiano

Originally Posted By: Jennifer Eklund
There are plenty of affluent neighborhoods to teach in, in-home lessons come at a premium and are in demand

Absolutely true! And at the tuition rate these folks are willing to cough up, I was able to quit my other job.


I don't mind driving, and in-home lessons would definitely be a great way to at least get started. I probably (definitely) can't afford a great home studio right off the bat anyway!

San Diego is really sounding quite nice...

Also, just in addition to what I'm looking for:
- I'm not necessarily looking to live right on the coast. Sure, that would be a nice bonus, but I don't feel the need to pay extra for it. I'm just looking to be in or near one of these cities, all of which happen to be on the coast.
- Although I'm aware that most families are in the suburbs, I'm still young and don't want to be too far from the city and all the action. This is something that is very appealing about San Diego - if I choose to live in the city, the wealthy seaside suburbs, with all of their potential students, are just a short drive from downtown. Alternately, if I choose to live in a suburb, I still won't be far from the city.

I've really enjoyed everyone's input! Keep it coming!!!

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#2046778 - 03/12/13 01:14 AM Re: California (SF vs LA vs SD) [Re: jam8086]
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FWIW, had dinner with wife's family tonight and learned that Rancho Mission Viejo now has zoning permits to build 14,000 new homes just south of Santa Ana, so you might just find some clientele there as families move in.
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#2047000 - 03/12/13 01:40 PM Re: California (SF vs LA vs SD) [Re: John v.d.Brook]
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Originally Posted By: John v.d.Brook
FWIW, had dinner with wife's family tonight and learned that Rancho Mission Viejo now has zoning permits to build 14,000 new homes just south of Santa Ana, so you might just find some clientele there as families move in.

You mean Mission Viejo? There's also Rancho Santa Magarita and Ladera Ranch nearby.

I almost bought a house there, but, alas, it was out of my price range. It's a LOVELY place to live, though. However, the area is definitely saturated with piano teachers. A couple of teachers there have more than 100 students! I kid you not.
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#2047013 - 03/12/13 02:09 PM Re: California (SF vs LA vs SD) [Re: jam8086]
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#2047017 - 03/12/13 02:23 PM Re: California (SF vs LA vs SD) [Re: ezpiano.org]
AZNpiano Offline
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Originally Posted By: ezpiano.org

Wow, another city? Definitely worth a look, but it might be quite expensive. I know there are always affordable housing options in any city, but not necessarily conducive toward piano teaching.
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#2056710 - 03/30/13 07:21 AM Re: California (SF vs LA vs SD) [Re: jam8086]
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I'm originally from San Francisco and my immediate family still lives in N. Ca. I have not moved back, although I would like to, because I am established (not a piano teacher) in the DC area and the cost of living is so high in Ca.

That being said, I would recommend looking at the cities of Petaluma and Santa Rosa in Sonoma county. The cost of living there is less than the bay area, and you can find a town, vs a suburban lifestyle. There is a range of incomes. I don't know how saturated the piano teacher market is. I'm guessing that the market is saturated in any desirable place; that's the reality we live in now.

Santa Rosa has a very good classical music scene for its size. The local symphony orchestra draws musicians from all over N. Ca and is of a very high level.
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