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#2057052 - 03/30/13 07:33 PM Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire?
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I'm really talking about largest and broadest repertoire that was actually performed in concert. So I wouldn't choose Leslie Howard, for example, because of his emphasis on Liszt and Romantic composers.

I would choose Richter. He played large chunks of Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Chopin, Liszt, Schubert, Schumann, Brahms, Rachmaninov, Shostakovitch, Prokofiev, Debussy, Ravel, Scriabin, etc.

The figures compiled in the Monsingeon book on Richter are almost impossible to believe: 833 works(a work being anything from a single Rachmaninov Prelude to the Beethoven Diabelli Variations to a Concerto but not including around 600 songs), 3600 concerts in 1000 different places(hard to believe that?). There were years where Richter played over 200 works with 20 of them new to his repertoire He gave 851 concerts in Moscow alone.

Other candidates?


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#2057053 - 03/30/13 07:34 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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Gerald Moore.
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#2057062 - 03/30/13 08:01 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: BDB]
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Originally Posted By: BDB
Gerald Moore.
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#2057070 - 03/30/13 08:13 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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I'd vote for Daniel Barenboim.

Not only has he played (and recorded) Bach's WTC, he's also played Boulez and conducted Schoenberg, Mahler, Bruckner as well as Boulez. Not to mention Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen and Mozart's operas.

Oh, and he also plays the old warhorses like Chopin, Schumann, Brahms and Tchaikovsky concertos. As well as all the Mozart and Beethoven ones. And all their piano sonatas. And.......
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#2057071 - 03/30/13 08:20 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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I think it's pretty obviously Hamelin.

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#2057073 - 03/30/13 08:24 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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J. Lawrence Cooke also had quite a repertoire.
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#2057074 - 03/30/13 08:27 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: BDB]
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Gerald Moore.
I'm assuming this is because each song counts as a piece but remember the figure i gave for Richter didn't include the about 600 songs he accompanied. So, including songs, Richter would have a total of 1433 pieces.

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#2057080 - 03/30/13 08:47 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: BDB]
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Gerald Moore.

Hmmm... no.

Moore is best known for the sheer amount of songs he accompanied, but that does not necessarily mean he had the largest repertoire. I would think that honour would go to Michael Raucheisen.

This guy had a working knowledge of German Lieder which far surpassed Moore. He played for many great singers- Hans Hotter, Frida Leider, Erna Berger, Karl Erb, and the great Schwartzkopf.

Raucheisen, in addition to playing the usual fare, went deeply into the lieder of Pfitzner, Marschner, and Loewe (another easy 500 examples), which Moore only tangentially sampled.

Nothing against Moore of course -a great inspirational hero of mine, and a man I would have loved to have met and share a brew with- but he did not have quite the wide range of Raucheisen.

Oddly enough, in Moore's highly readable autobio, he makes no reference to Raucheisen, but he certainly worked most of those same singers.
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#2057083 - 03/30/13 08:55 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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For clarity's sake this thread was not for pianists who play popular music, pianists who are primarily accompanists, or non piano works in this discussion.

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#2057084 - 03/30/13 08:57 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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Or pianists whose first name is not Sviatoslav. That makes it much simpler.
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#2057085 - 03/30/13 08:59 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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John Ogdon's repertoire was unbelievably large. Reading his biography, it is quite astonishing what all he actually played.

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#2057091 - 03/30/13 09:12 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
For clarity's sake this thread was not for pianists who play popular music, pianists who are primarily accompanists, or non piano works in this discussion.

That is what I thought too, but since BDB brought up Moore -which was clearly incorrect- I thought it was worth a response.

Otherwise, I have no idea about solo pianists, nor it is particularly important to me. Who cares who can play the most stuff?
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#2057097 - 03/30/13 09:25 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: Orange Soda King]
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John Ogdon's repertoire was unbelievably large. Reading his biography, it is quite astonishing what all he actually played.

The sheer amount of British concertos he played, astonishing for any pianist.

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#2057106 - 03/30/13 09:50 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
For clarity's sake this thread was not for pianists who play popular music, pianists who are primarily accompanists, or non piano works in this discussion.

That is what I thought too, but since BDB brought up Moore -which was clearly incorrect- I thought it was worth a response.

Otherwise, I have no idea about solo pianists, nor it is particularly important to me. Who cares who can play the most stuff?
The size of pianist's repertoire is not an uncommon question. Obviously, at least one person cares just because it's interesting if not particularly important.


Edited by pianoloverus (03/30/13 09:52 PM)

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#2057120 - 03/30/13 10:21 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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Well, the question went from "Other candidates?" to something else which is much less interesting.
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#2057138 - 03/30/13 11:09 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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My piano teacher, who is a Horowitz fanatic, claimed that Horowitz had a working repertoire of over 800 pieces. Don't know how true this is.
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#2057158 - 03/31/13 12:45 AM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: Brad Hoehne]
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Originally Posted By: Brad Hoehne
My piano teacher, who is a Horowitz fanatic, claimed that Horowitz had a working repertoire of over 800 pieces. Don't know how true this is.

While this may be true, I believe, from all accounts I've read, that what he chose to perform throughout his career was much narrower.
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#2057168 - 03/31/13 01:53 AM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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In Barenboim's view, it was the great Chilean pianist Claudio Arrau who had "probably the widest repertoire of any pianist, past or present." Certainly it was wider than most of his peers. Writing in A Life in Music, Barenboim argues that Arrau not only was at home with a vast range of composers and periods (Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Schumann, Brahms, Chopin, Liszt, Debussy, Albeniz, Busoni, Reger, Schoenberg) but that he also had an extraordinary mastery of these diverse styles, and the ability to channel his virtuoso technique in a way that allowed him to carry them all off persuasively and idiomatically. In part Barenboim attributes this pianistic breadth to Arrau's equally wide-ranging interests beyond the piano: literature, philosophy, opera, art, history, anthropology, dance, psychology. These varied interests, intensely pursued over his entire career, fed his musical sensibilities and gave his performances their uniquely powerful combination of intelligence and imagination.

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#2057201 - 03/31/13 04:43 AM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Who cares who can play the most stuff?


The author of this thread, apparently.

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#2057263 - 03/31/13 08:57 AM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: theJourney]
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Who cares who can play the most stuff?


The author of this thread, apparently.
And Daniel Barenboim apparently. Many pianist biographies also list the pianist's repertoire at the end to the book.


Edited by pianoloverus (03/31/13 09:03 AM)

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#2057304 - 03/31/13 10:41 AM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: Derulux]
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Originally Posted By: Brad Hoehne
My piano teacher, who is a Horowitz fanatic, claimed that Horowitz had a working repertoire of over 800 pieces. Don't know how true this is.

While this may be true, I believe, from all accounts I've read, that what he chose to perform throughout his career was much narrower.


I'm too lazy to count the number of works in this list, but it seems pretty diverse. Definitely not in the 800 range though:

http://vladimirhorowitz.hostzi.com/1_12_Repertoire.html
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#2057311 - 03/31/13 11:18 AM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: evilpacman18]
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I think it's pretty obviously Hamelin.


His recording repertoire is extremely large, but you only get bits and pieces of it in his performing repertoire, and understandably, he often plays his own compositions. I think the encyclopedic nature of his discography is kind of at odds with what he really wants to do as a musician.

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#2057315 - 03/31/13 11:25 AM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: Brad Hoehne]
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I'm too lazy to count the number of works in this list, but it seems pretty diverse. Definitely not in the 800 range though:
http://vladimirhorowitz.hostzi.com/1_12_Repertoire.html

This is quite interesting because my impression is that this list has a lot of works Horowitz played before 1940 or 1950 that he rarely played later in his career.

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#2057318 - 03/31/13 11:31 AM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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I don't know how much of his vast recording repertoire he actually performed, but Michael Ponti might be worth a mention.

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#2057329 - 03/31/13 12:06 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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I would like to nominate my teacher. He's performed or recorded over 100 concerti and recorded all the Beethoven sonatas and a huge chunk of chamber music.

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#2057360 - 03/31/13 01:07 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: GeorgeB]
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I would like to nominate my teacher. He's performed or recorded over 100 concerti and recorded all the Beethoven sonatas and a huge chunk of chamber music.
Who is he? 100 concerti seems astronomical!

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#2057373 - 03/31/13 01:43 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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I would like to nominate my teacher. He's performed or recorded over 100 concerti and recorded all the Beethoven sonatas and a huge chunk of chamber music.
Who is he? 100 concerti seems astronomical!


Are there "over 100" (piano) concerti that would have been performed and/or recorded? Would this not have to include some pretty obscure works? Where would one find the orchestra - or even the scores - for such obscure works?

What am I missing in this "over 100" list?

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#2057405 - 03/31/13 03:02 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: BruceD]
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I would like to nominate my teacher. He's performed or recorded over 100 concerti and recorded all the Beethoven sonatas and a huge chunk of chamber music.
Who is he? 100 concerti seems astronomical!


Are there "over 100" (piano) concerti that would have been performed and/or recorded? Would this not have to include some pretty obscure works? Where would one find the orchestra - or even the scores - for such obscure works?

What am I missing in this "over 100" list?

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Well, off the top of my head here is my guess as to what concertos are "commonly" played:

Mozart ~20 are commonly played
5 Beethoven
2 Chopin
2 Brahms
5 Prokofiev
3 Rachmaninov
2 Liszt
1 Grieg
1 Macdowell
1 Glazunov
1 Schumann
4 or so of the Haydn concertos
~10 J.S. Bach concertos of various sorts
3 C.P.E. Bach
2 Tchaikovsky
1 Lutoslawski
2 Ravel
1 Dvorak
Total: 66

Am I missing any?




Edited by Brad Hoehne (03/31/13 03:03 PM)
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#2057428 - 03/31/13 03:36 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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You've left out quite a bit of common repertoire I can think of; Mendelssohn for one. There are easily orchestras for at least 100 concertos.

Maybe GeorgeB would like to ask his teacher and list them for us? wink
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#2057432 - 03/31/13 03:49 PM Re: Which pianist had the largest performing repertoire? [Re: pianoloverus]
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In that I used to call him every year on his birthday, I list the link to Earl Wild's website. Click on the the three page discography, if you want some idea of the amount of repertoire the man recorded.

It doesn't include a lot of pieces that he played in concert, such as the Schumann Concerto, which he didn't record. The man lived to be 93 years old and was concertizing from the age of 13.

He played it all! And, that includeds many of his own compositions/transcriptions.

Further, he played a wide spectrum of repertoire his entire career unlike others listed here who specialized in only certain composers late in life.

http://earlwild.com/

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