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#2056880 - 03/30/13 01:54 PM Re: Difficult students [Re: Nannerl Mozart]
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No way should such a student get an hour's lesson.
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#2057184 - 03/31/13 03:56 AM Re: Difficult students [Re: TimR]
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Originally Posted By: TimR
Originally Posted By: Morodiene
It's a shame because obviously the parents are to blame for the daughter's behavior,

I'm sorry, but I'm going to sharply disagree. You have no actual basis for making that judgement.

Even further, all the comments about how obviously lazy the girl is are wrong. Yes, she "admits" she's lazy. Of course she does. She's been told she's lazy for so long she's come to believe it herself. And it is very possibly completely false.

Perhaps she's playing the odds; don't you notice the rising lack of accountability in our society? One of the prime reasons for U.S.A.'s failing educational system is the fact that teachers are being held accountable beyond the role of simply being good at teaching. If it's not the teacher's role for providing a work ethic (which it shouldn't be), and - according to your insinuation - it's not the parents' role, then whose role is it?
"[The trick to life isn't] just about living forever. The trick is still living with yourself forever."

#2057286 - 03/31/13 09:46 AM Re: Difficult students [Re: Nannerl Mozart]
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Bobpickle you make a good point. I've been thinking a lot over the last couple of days. People seem to have different reactions to the teenager's mum, I just want to make a few things clear, mind you this is completely from my perspective: the teenager raised up wanting to quit and it seems that the teenager's mum took it the wrong way. The teenager told mum that I spend the lesson talking ... which I have been more recently but that's because well, I've run out of things to teach (the contents of my conversation often revolve around asking her questions on her work ethic, her interests, the way she works, how things work in school for her, etc... I go through the repertoire she worked on in the week - and normally the answer to that is - I didn't do much this week, or I don't like this so I didn't work on it. I ask her - did you work on improvisation or newly assigned things on technical work - no she didn't, she's not interested. OK so lets have a look at this new piece, you interested in that? Yes, great learn it up in the week and I would love to have a look at it.

I think mum just thinks I talk in the lesson and paying for somebody to just talk is expensive. I told mum my reasons whilst telling her I understand completely where she is coming from but here is what I am working with and I've honestly run out of things to teach. Mum says she's going to find another teacher for her daughter. She compared her former teacher to me. Understandable. However, I said I don't think it's a getting along/personality thing - In essence I think she's gotten to a stage where she can do things on her own and if she wants to get better she'll need to practice and make changes. Mum denies this and says that the girl wants to try new things - I said I give her something new after attempting it twice she'll refuse.

I'll write more later

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