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#2057598 - 04/01/13 12:31 AM Editions Musica Ferrum April Fools :)
Nikolas Offline
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I'm really sorry that this has come so soon, but...

As some members already know from PMs and stuff the struggle in this stunning economic depression that Greece is going through is so uphill that it's impossible to win!

The idea was to sustain production of new scores from living composers, that would appeal to the general public. Based on my computer games experience I always knew that products are ready to 'fly out the window' very easily. With the added bonus that classical music does not have an expiration date, like computer games do, I was always very confident that things will work out.

Alas, this is not the case at all.

This is what will happen next.

1. According to the contract I have to send the scores back to the composers. I seriously hope they can handle the shipping fees, cause I can't.
2. Any remaining scores will be burned down.
3. I will close down my music studio, fire my accountant, notify everyone that Editions Musica Ferrum are... dead.
4. I guess that this means that any of you that've bought scores will be on to something. I mean some scores will be rare, considering they won't be sold again.

It's been a short, but amazing trip everybody! I will be logging on to PianoWorld much less now, since I'll be concentrating on my move to Azerbaijan!

Take care and goodbye!


Edited by Kreisler (04/04/13 01:09 PM)
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#2057602 - 04/01/13 12:43 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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What do you mean "goodbye"?

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#2057604 - 04/01/13 12:45 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
Kuanpiano Offline
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I have a hunch, but I'm too scared to say it!
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#2057605 - 04/01/13 12:48 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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I hope you will be back soon!
I am sorry about Musica Ferrum... frown It is a tough time. Many companies close down around here too. frown
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#2057609 - 04/01/13 01:00 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Nikolas, I am sorry to hear this.

Please make sure you are thinking as clearly as possible and are examining all of the options that might be available to you. Discuss decisions with close friends you trust. See if there might be a way to close everything that is bleeding cash flow while not burning bridges for a possible future re-launch.

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#2057612 - 04/01/13 01:13 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
ando Offline
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Hehe wink

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#2057616 - 04/01/13 01:19 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: ando]
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Originally Posted By: ando
Hehe wink


Do you think it is an April Fool's prank? wink laugh
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#2057618 - 04/01/13 01:25 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
ChrisKeys Offline
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Nikolas, I was going to buy two copies of Piano Stories this week. Is this now impossible?

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#2057629 - 04/01/13 02:31 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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#2057646 - 04/01/13 04:02 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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#2057661 - 04/01/13 06:41 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: ChopinAddict]
ando Offline
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Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
Originally Posted By: ando
Hehe wink


Do you think it is an April Fool's prank? wink laugh


Either that or I'm a sociopath who laughs at the misfortune of others. wink

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#2057675 - 04/01/13 07:49 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Check the "news" section of the Musica Ferrum website for more details. wink
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#2057702 - 04/01/13 09:44 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Nikolas, best of luck in your new location. Stay with us and let us know how you are doing.
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#2057775 - 04/01/13 01:00 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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I hear Azerbaijan is nice this time of year. To answer the question on your web site, yes I am aware that Greece is ahead of the US in regard to time. What I wasn't aware of was whether there is an April Fools tradition there. That question seems to have been answered. Good luck in Azerbaijan!

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#2057833 - 04/01/13 02:57 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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It sounds dreadful. Everyone I shared it loves your score. I hope we can somehow keep in touch.
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#2057837 - 04/01/13 03:06 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
LadyChen Offline
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Anyone know the time difference between here and Greece? wink

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#2057841 - 04/01/13 03:10 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: LadyChen]
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Originally Posted By: LadyChen
Anyone know the time difference between here and Greece? wink


Well, that depends. Where is "here"? There are six time zones in Canada.

Greece is GMT +2;
Canada is
GMT -31/2 (Newfoundland/Labrador),
GMT-4 (Atlantic),
GMT-5 (Eastern),
GMT-6 (Central),
GMT-7 (Mountain), and
GMT-8 (Pacific).

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#2057846 - 04/01/13 03:18 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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"Here" is there when you are in Azerbaijan.

Please hear what I'm trying to say.
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#2057848 - 04/01/13 03:20 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Right "now" it's 22:20 in Greece...

And April's first is about to end in a couple of hours... So...

April's Fool Everybody!

It worked for a few people, but most weren't fooled I guess... wink

Some further info on the background of the original post:

1. Yes Greece is not doing well, but EMF is doing just fine (which is very positive in a miserable world overall...). We are actually about to publish more than 10 new scores...

2. I would never ever ever ever burn any score, no matter contract, lawyers or whatever!

3. My wife IS actually in Azerbaijan, so the country didn't come up randomly. But I'm just not about to move there.

4. And certainly I would not quite post and be a member of PianoWorld.

Thanks everyone.
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#2057854 - 04/01/13 03:26 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Nikolas :

I think that was a pretty bad April Fool's joke. It's one thing to play a joke that (eventually) simply fools everyone, harmlessly, caught in it. It's quite another - and in bad taste, I think - to perpetrate one that raises both personal sympathy and genuine concern for your situation when there was nothing to be concerned about.

Bad call!
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#2057855 - 04/01/13 03:29 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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I get that Bruce... You're right probably, but in my defence: I did PM everyone who posted right after they did post in order to let them know that it's a joke, and I did mention some difficult things (burning scores and the such)...

But you're right... It was probably a bad call, but I hope it wasn't perceived as a call for sympathy or anything like that... :-/
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#2057862 - 04/01/13 03:35 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Well, Nikolas, that being said, I am glad to hear that the situation is not as it initially indicated.

Regards,
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#2057889 - 04/01/13 04:17 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Talk about the 2013 "Composer on herb"!

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#2057894 - 04/01/13 04:25 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Rather "composer on weed"... :P
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#2057896 - 04/01/13 04:28 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Originally Posted By: Nikolas
I get that Bruce... You're right probably, but in my defence: I did PM everyone who posted right after they did post in order to let them know that it's a joke, and I did mention some difficult things (burning scores and the such)...

But you're right... It was probably a bad call, but I hope it wasn't perceived as a call for sympathy or anything like that... :-/


Don't feel bad, you are supposed to fool people, and you only put yourself (and your stockholders?) in the line, so it's fine. Those who are fooled sometimes get offended, but that's the tradition anyway grin

I have to admit that what shocked me was the thing about burning scores (talk about lack of empathy for people...). But maybe I did somehow predict that it cannot be true...

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#2057898 - 04/01/13 04:29 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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I don't think this was in bad taste.

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#2057910 - 04/01/13 05:00 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: outo]
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Originally Posted By: outo
But maybe I did somehow predict that it cannot be true...

It took me less than 30 seconds to figure out it was a joke. I was burned by a cruel joke done by the local sports talk radio way back in 1992, so ever since then I'm always vigilant when April 1st rolls around.

Kudos to you, Nikolas. Kudos.
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#2057919 - 04/01/13 05:10 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: ando]
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Originally Posted By: ando
Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
Originally Posted By: ando
Hehe wink


Do you think it is an April Fool's prank? wink laugh


Either that or I'm a sociopath who laughs at the misfortune of others. wink


ha It was a rhetorical question. It was clear it was a joke by then (hence the smilies). No Schadenfreude!
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#2057926 - 04/01/13 05:14 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: AZNpiano]
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Originally Posted By: AZNpiano
Originally Posted By: outo
But maybe I did somehow predict that it cannot be true...

It took me less than 30 seconds to figure out it was a joke. I was burned by a cruel joke done by the local sports talk radio way back in 1992, so ever since then I'm always vigilant when April 1st rolls around.

Kudos to you, Nikolas. Kudos.


AZN, you are sharp! I did not get that at all until Nilolas PM'd me. Good thing he did cause I was just about e-mail'ing my friends not to order the scores..it's burnt (oh how sad it sounded!). Glad it was a joke. I wish I could get back at him next year but I'm not as creative as he is. It was a good one.
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#2057943 - 04/01/13 05:34 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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You had me until Azerbaijan.
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#2057955 - 04/01/13 05:49 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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I'm so glad it was a joke. Here's a funny one printed in today's Seattle Times: Shocking news
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#2057958 - 04/01/13 05:50 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Brendan]
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Originally Posted By: Brendan
You had me until Azerbaijan.


But he had mentioned that his wife actually is in Azerbaijan before, so some might have remembered... laugh
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#2057963 - 04/01/13 05:56 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Steve Chandler]
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Originally Posted By: Steve Chandler
I hear Azerbaijan is nice this time of year. To answer the question on your web site, yes I am aware that Greece is ahead of the US in regard to time. What I wasn't aware of was whether there is an April Fools tradition there....

I wasn't either. In fact I didn't even think about it. I was about to fly to Greece (or Azerbaijan or whatever) and do a suicide watch.

Almost. smile

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#2057984 - 04/01/13 06:29 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: ChopinAddict]
ando Offline
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Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
Originally Posted By: ando
Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
Originally Posted By: ando
Hehe wink


Do you think it is an April Fool's prank? wink laugh


Either that or I'm a sociopath who laughs at the misfortune of others. wink


ha It was a rhetorical question. It was clear it was a joke by then (hence the smilies). No Schadenfreude!


I do realise that. I was playing along. It was my post that acknowledged the joke.

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#2058089 - 04/01/13 11:27 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: ChopinAddict]
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Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
Originally Posted By: Brendan
You had me until Azerbaijan.


But he had mentioned that his wife actually is in Azerbaijan before, so some might have remembered... laugh
Exactly! wink

But I seriously was hoping that my happiness with the award and all wouldn't be forgotten that soon either...

And as farmgirl said: I PMed people immediately to let them know about the joke..

Deborah: Fleas freezing!?! hahahaha!
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#2058103 - 04/02/13 12:01 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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NIKOLAS!!!

I saw your initial post in the morning before going to work (the first day of work at a new job) and felt so sad about it... Just found out at 9pm that it wasn't real.

What the heck? April Fools jokes aren't supposed to be so... *believable* ! smile

Glad to hear everything's fine!


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#2058111 - 04/02/13 12:19 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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It didn't fool me, and I've seen better April Fool's jokes. And talking about burning scores isn't funny... mad
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#2058113 - 04/02/13 12:22 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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lol @ polyphonist!

Jason: Sorry bud! smile
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#2058123 - 04/02/13 01:29 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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You had me worried! (Hadn't read all posts, but at least far enough to find it was an April Fool's joke.

Whew. Now I can relax.

Best wishes, Nikolas!
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#2058622 - 04/03/13 09:57 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: BruceD]
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Originally Posted By: BruceD
Nikolas :

I think that was a pretty bad April Fool's joke. It's one thing to play a joke that (eventually) simply fools everyone, harmlessly, caught in it. It's quite another - and in bad taste, I think - to perpetrate one that raises both personal sympathy and genuine concern for your situation when there was nothing to be concerned about.

Bad call!


Nah.. it wasn't that bad! I've seen worse! But it's difficult to play a prank in a forum...

Haha that reminds me of what I did on the 1st - me and my friends often play practical jokes on each other, but April 1st was special.. In duos, the other group was supposed to play Mozart 3rd mvt of the 2 piano sonata (brand new for them), but our coach had emailed me to have our group play through our piece. I initially told them about the possibility of them not having to play, because I didn't know if he meant to switch groups completely, so my friend didn't look at the Mozart at all. Then it became clear that they wouldn't have to play at all... I told one of the pianists, and we made an agreement to tell my friend that they DO have to play the Mozart... so on Sunday (day before class) he spent all morning trying to learn it and they "rehearsed" in the afternoon and everything.... and then..... he wanted to kill me hahahhhahahhahah
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#2058786 - 04/03/13 03:57 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Joe, Angelina... Thanks...

Angelina: "I've seen worst" isn't too comforting to be honest! grin It was a bit of a bad taste, but in any case it's gone now... As long as customers don't think we're out of business we're fine! grin

But it was evil of you to trick that poor pianist...
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#2058887 - 04/03/13 07:59 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Nikolas, you got me really worried - so shortly after your enterprise takes on momentum! Glad to hear you were joking! smile

On the topic of April's Fools, not sure if this has been shared here:

New setup guidelines at the Henle house

laugh
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#2058993 - 04/04/13 01:56 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: pianovirus]
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Originally Posted By: pianovirus
On the topic of April's Fools, not sure if this has been shared here:
New setup guidelines at the Henle house

laugh
hahahaha! Love it! So neat and tidy. laugh

(And I've nearly forgiven Nikolas for making me so sad... briefly... smile )
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#2059095 - 04/04/13 08:05 AM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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I think it was a good one. Plausible at first, then the burning scores seemed a little peculiar, and then Azerbaijan tipped it into the 4/1 category.

A few years ago, Velonews ran a story about Lance Armstrong getting a carbon fiber collar bone repair that was a classic.
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#2059285 - 04/04/13 12:45 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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It was absolutely in bad taste. Also, it was not funny at all, more annoying. A joke is something funny, something that makes people laugh. This came off more like a marketing scheme for the company, a free plug. No such thing as bad publicity, right? Is it cool with everyone if I create a new topic and talk about my company for a while? I can pretend it's doing bad and then reveal it's actually doing great, it will be the best joke ever! Look out, Conan!

It's not even April 1st anymore, and I had the misfortune of reading this crap today, so irritating. Why is the thread still here?

Also, like the boy who cried wolf, when the company does go under, no one will believe it, having been tricked previously. You shouldn't toy with peoples emotions.

If you're going to market yourself, use the proper channels, that's what facebook is for.

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#2059293 - 04/04/13 12:55 PM Re: Editions Musica Ferrum to close down... :( [Re: Nikolas]
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Here's the biggest problem with this post:

When I go to Google and type in "Editions Musica Ferrum", the link to this thread is the SECOND one that comes up. While the date is listed, I doubt anyone googling the publishing company in a month or two will look closely.

The joke (which I thought was pretty obvious) was all in good fun, but it may backfire.

I'm going to lock the thread and give everyone a day or two to reflect on this post, then I'll do my best to change the topic line so that, hopefully, the announcement of EDF's closing won't be so prominently displayed on Google. (Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do about Google's indexing. Hopefully it'll catch up sooner than later.)
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