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#2057881 - 04/01/13 04:05 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: Louis Podesta]
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Originally Posted By: Louis Podesta
Yo! Before I get started, has it ever dawned on the good Doctor what kind of impression this kind of infantile claptrap makes on a new member?

Leaving aside your characterizations ha ....she's not a new member (which you would have known if you read all the posts). Indeed it makes a big difference when someone is a new member.

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#2057912 - 04/01/13 05:02 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: eylulesme]
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Moderators, please delete my membership
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#2057915 - 04/01/13 05:05 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: eylulesme]
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Mark C:

I was not referring to her being a new member. What I was referring is all of this business about getting off point, which should be what views do the rest of the members have about this piece.

And, I am a 61 year old classical pianist/philosopher that spends a good four to five hours every day at my craft.

This particular concerto is considered DMA repertoire for a reason. It has whimsy, sparkle, rhythmic compexities and the like, which all make it a great piece, in my opinon. None of which are at play in this recording.

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#2057920 - 04/01/13 05:10 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: eylulesme]
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Overall, quite an accomplishment, Eylul! Must be great to be able to play with what I thought was quite a good orchestra. What I liked best were the sparkling musical gestures, and generally I thought you handled the ensemble parts with aplomb and confidence. A few comments:

1 I thought you tended to be somewhat too aggressive in the solo sections -- I was bothered by it somewhat in the first movement; more so in the second movement. I believe the solo material would be enhanced if you stated it less forcefully.

2 In general, I think your pianistic technique is too Romantic for this concerto. As I mentioned, it was very musical; but stylistically it needs to be "notier", with somewhat less pedal. Since you clearly have the "chops" (technical ability) to aspire to that, I would definitely consider that -- in the first and third movements, it would add to the sparkle, and in the slow movement, it would actually enhance the poignancy and sadness, because it would sound more "stark".

But overall, a real pleasure to listen to, and thanks for sharing this!

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#2057929 - 04/01/13 05:16 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: Louis Podesta]
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Thank you;
Dr. Jekyll ve Mr. Hyde, you two are the same person ha wow yippie funny smile
I can prove it
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#2057931 - 04/01/13 05:17 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: eylulesme]
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Originally Posted By: eylulesme
Thank you;
Dr. Jekyll ve Mr. Hyde, you two are the same person ha wow yippie funny smile
I can prove it

Mr. Mark C & Louis Podesta


Edited by eylulesme (04/01/13 05:27 PM)
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#2058045 - 04/01/13 09:24 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: Louis Podesta]
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Originally Posted By: Louis Podesta

Just like I usually do, I will refer you to a recording which is Horowitz's documentary recording of this with Giulini and the LA Philharmonic. The difference is startling.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vttZzUPg3A


You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but Vladdie's Mozart leaves much to be desired. If you're looking for a model (which I don't recommend) listen to Perahia, de Larrocha, Uchida, or Schiff.
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#2058050 - 04/01/13 09:41 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: stores]
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Originally Posted By: stores

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but Vladdie's Mozart leaves much to be desired. If you're looking for a model (which I don't recommend) listen to Perahia, de Larrocha, Uchida, or Schiff.


You mean Mu, Ally, Mitsy, and Andy?
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#2058149 - 04/02/13 04:29 AM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: Damon]
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Originally Posted By: Damon
Originally Posted By: stores

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but Vladdie's Mozart leaves much to be desired. If you're looking for a model (which I don't recommend) listen to Perahia, de Larrocha, Uchida, or Schiff.


You mean Mu, Ally, Mitsy, and Andy?


Sure, if that's how you think of them.
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#2058310 - 04/02/13 01:24 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: eylulesme]
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Originally Posted By: eylulesme
Originally Posted By: eylulesme
Thank you;
Dr. Jekyll ve Mr. Hyde, you two are the same person ha wow yippie funny smile
I can prove it

Mr. Mark C & Louis Podesta


shocked shocked shocked
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#2058741 - 04/03/13 01:50 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: eylulesme]
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Originally Posted By: eylulesme
Originally Posted By: eylulesme
Thank you;
Dr. Jekyll ve Mr. Hyde, you two are the same person ha wow yippie funny smile
I can prove it

Mr. Mark C & Louis Podesta

ha I would love to see your proof. smile The "good doctor" and Mr. Podesta have quite a stormy history, so your theory is certainly intriguing. Unfortunately for your theory, however, there is video available of both men, and I seriously doubt you would confuse the two.

Originally Posted By: eylulesme
Moderators, please delete my membership

Eylulesme, please don't. You are a wonderfully talented musician, and many on this forum are professional teachers and performers with years of experience and much to offer you. Yes, some are gracious and some are grumpy, but grumpy or gracious, they are more than willing to take time to share their insights with you. Simply focus on what they say, and not how they say it. Best of luck to you. smile

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#2058746 - 04/03/13 02:03 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: Old Man]
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Originally Posted By: Old Man
Eylulesme, please don't.

+1

Eylul: I never meant anything like what you probably thought. I intended my first post only to suggest that you ALSO post this in that other section, and (yes!) to urge you to put any future videos there. You misinterpreted it as meaning that I was suggesting that you "move" it, I didn't understand some of what you said and tried to be humorous about it, one thing led to another, and the whole thing got out of hand. I join everyone else in hoping that you will stay.

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#2058749 - 04/03/13 02:07 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: eylulesme]
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Can we just discuss music for crying out loud! Lovely piece, well played, dont feel forced to leave eylulesme!
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#2058849 - 04/03/13 05:59 PM Re: Mozart Piano Concerto No.23 / a gift for pianoworld [Re: Mark_C]
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Loc: Michigan, USA
Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: Old Man
Eylulesme, please don't.

+1

Eylul: I never meant anything like what you probably thought. I intended my first post only to suggest that you ALSO post this in that other section, and (yes!) to urge you to put any future videos there. You misinterpreted it as meaning that I was suggesting that you "move" it, I didn't understand some of what you said and tried to be humorous about it, one thing led to another, and the whole thing got out of hand. I join everyone else in hoping that you will stay.

BTW, Mark, I did not have you in mind when I used the word "grumpy". Finicky, yes. Grumpy, no. grin

Hmmm.. but there is that "other guy" from your area . . . laugh

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