Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
Latest Pianoteq add-on instrument: U4 upright piano
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
PianoSupplies.com (150)
Piano Accessories Music Related Gifts Piano Tuning Equipment Piano Moving Equipment
We now offer Gift Certificates in our online store!
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Piano
Quick Links to Useful Stuff
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano Accessories
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Page 2 of 10 < 1 2 3 4 ... 9 10 >
Topic Options
#2058389 - 04/02/13 05:12 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: Dave Horne]
dewster Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/07/09
Posts: 4335
Loc: Northern NJ
"Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you"

― Joseph Heller, Catch-22
_________________________
The DPBSD Project!
THE RD-700NX Thread!
DPs Exposed! (nekid pichures!)

Top
(ads) Sweetwater / PR /Roland
Special Financing on Digital Keyboards

Pearl River World's Best Selling Piano

Click Here


#2058392 - 04/02/13 05:28 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: dewster]
Temperament Offline
Full Member

Registered: 09/19/10
Posts: 424
Loc: Hun,EU

Quite to the contrary: while they are after you, they say you ARE paranoid!

Top
#2058403 - 04/02/13 05:54 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: Dave Horne]
Scott Hamlin Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/11/12
Posts: 547
wow

If anyone needs me......

_________________________
http://DulceLabs.com
Sound, Video, Design

Top
#2058423 - 04/02/13 07:08 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: Dave Horne]
ClsscLib Online   content

Platinum Supporter until Jan 02 2013


Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 1714
Loc: Northern VA, U.S.
Looks good on the cat.
_________________________


"People may say I can't sing, but no one can ever say I didn't sing."

-- Florence Foster Jenkins

Top
#2058496 - 04/03/13 12:41 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: ClsscLib]
theJourney Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/22/07
Posts: 3946
Loc: Banned
Originally Posted By: ClsscLib
Whatever the sad state of the piano market today, it's clear that sales of tinfoil beanies remain brisk.


Ah yes, the last resort of those who can formulate no rational response to an argument, the ad hominem attack.

Observing reality, using one's head and thinking critically are not the same as being paranoid and seeing conspiracy theories. However, it is certainly easier to manipulate a passive and docile population, lulled into sleep to believe that everything in print from the classical canon of authority sources -- from the Bible to junior high school civics class indoctrination to the WSJ -- is to be accepted at face value as trusted fact.

There are some sad places in this world -- the closer you get to D.C. or into the Appalachian hills the more you tend to run into this -- where those who wish to apply the concept of critical thinking are actually mocked. Heck, the official 2012 (!) GOP political platform in Texas even went so far as to prohibit teaching critical thinking skills in public schools. Texas, you will of course remember, is the state that has a de facto role in determining the content of a majority of the textbooks used in American schools...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answ...NpFXW_blog.html

Top
#2058562 - 04/03/13 06:20 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: theJourney]
36251 Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/12/10
Posts: 718
Originally Posted By: theJourney
Originally Posted By: ClsscLib
Whatever the sad state of the piano market today, it's clear that sales of tinfoil beanies remain brisk.


Ah yes, the last resort of those who can formulate no rational response to an argument, the ad hominem attack.
OR, it's called humor.
_________________________
AG N2, CP4, GK MK & MP

Top
#2058570 - 04/03/13 07:22 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: Dave Horne]
MacMacMac Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/24/09
Posts: 3785
Loc: North Carolina
The Journey needs a chill pill today. smile

Top
#2058583 - 04/03/13 08:01 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: theJourney]
Scott Hamlin Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/11/12
Posts: 547
Originally Posted By: theJourney

Ah yes, the last resort of those who can formulate no rational response to an argument, the ad hominem attack.

Observing reality,blah blah blah blah


_________________________
http://DulceLabs.com
Sound, Video, Design

Top
#2058613 - 04/03/13 09:30 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: MacMacMac]
Temperament Offline
Full Member

Registered: 09/19/10
Posts: 424
Loc: Hun,EU
Originally Posted By: MacMacMac
The Journey needs a chill pill today. smile


I would like to thank TheJourney for the plenty of solid informations and insights he provided - I hope this helps to chill him.

Top
#2058646 - 04/03/13 10:48 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: Scott Hamlin]
ClsscLib Online   content

Platinum Supporter until Jan 02 2013


Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 1714
Loc: Northern VA, U.S.
Originally Posted By: Plinky88
wow

If anyone needs me......



The cat has the part nailed, but you need a little more method-acting to really join the team.

Imagine, for example, that you come from a neighborhood where everyone has been stoned non-stop since the late 'sixties (not that there's anything wrong with that, of course). That should get you in the zone.
_________________________


"People may say I can't sing, but no one can ever say I didn't sing."

-- Florence Foster Jenkins

Top
#2058660 - 04/03/13 11:21 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: ClsscLib]
36251 Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/12/10
Posts: 718
+1 for cat.


Edited by 36251 (04/03/13 11:22 AM)
_________________________
AG N2, CP4, GK MK & MP

Top
#2058675 - 04/03/13 11:50 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: 36251]
Clayman Offline
Full Member

Registered: 01/07/13
Posts: 300
Loc: Prague, Czech Rep.
Originally Posted By: 36251
+1 for cat.


Make that +2. The look on the cat's face is priceless. laugh
_________________________
-- Zbynek N.

Learning to play the piano since 06/2013 on a Kawai CA-95.

Music is what feelings sound like. ~ Author Unknown

Top
#2058685 - 04/03/13 12:23 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: ClsscLib]
dewster Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/07/09
Posts: 4335
Loc: Northern NJ
Imagine, for example, that you come from a country where everyone has been marketed to non-stop since the late 'sixties - to the point where you're not even aware of it and are openly hostile to anyone who anyone who merely broaches the subject. That should get you in the PW forum zone.
_________________________
The DPBSD Project!
THE RD-700NX Thread!
DPs Exposed! (nekid pichures!)

Top
#2058702 - 04/03/13 12:51 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: dewster]
lisztvsthalberg Offline
Full Member

Registered: 04/27/10
Posts: 121
I doubt that Yamaha would want someone to endorse the N2 over the N3.

Interestingly, I've noticed that the two N3s I've played seemed to have a lighter touch than the two N2s I've tried (one of which I own). Never seen any information suggesting that there would be a difference in the action but this might partly explain the preference of Ms. Dinnerstein.

Top
#2058731 - 04/03/13 01:34 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: dewster]
ClsscLib Online   content

Platinum Supporter until Jan 02 2013


Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 1714
Loc: Northern VA, U.S.
Originally Posted By: dewster
Imagine, for example, that you come from a country where everyone has been marketed to non-stop since the late 'sixties - to the point where you're not even aware of it and are openly hostile to anyone who anyone who merely broaches the subject. That should get you in the PW forum zone.


And is the idea that marketing in our cultures went unnoticed and unrecognized until, mirabile dictu, a couple of savants on this thread discovered it for the very first time and brought this wisdom to light for the benefit of the rest of the previously ignorant world?

I am grateful that, on the topic of marketing, a few here have shared with us some penetrating glimpses into the perfectly obvious. More so for Plinky's photo, though. That was good.


Edited by ClsscLib (04/03/13 01:37 PM)
_________________________


"People may say I can't sing, but no one can ever say I didn't sing."

-- Florence Foster Jenkins

Top
#2058743 - 04/03/13 01:57 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: ClsscLib]
theJourney Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/22/07
Posts: 3946
Loc: Banned
Originally Posted By: ClsscLib
The cat has the part nailed, but you need a little more method-acting to really join the team.

Imagine, for example, that you come from a neighborhood where everyone has been stoned non-stop since the late 'sixties (not that there's anything wrong with that, of course). That should get you in the zone.


The "stoned neighborhood" you allude to actually sounds a lot like great swaths of Baltimore or D.C. where generation upon generation of kids of the wrong color or wrong side of the tracks have turned to drugs in a desperate, dead-end attempt to escape the nefarious consequences of de facto apartheid.

The "everyone", however, sounds like hyperbole.

If you were insinuating that Amsterdam might be filled with stoners, you were only partially correct: there are indeed many, many stoners here at any one time. But, most of these stoners are tourists from North America and other countries briefly experiencing what freedom tastes like.

The Dutch themselves actually use dramatically less of almost any (illicit) drug you can name than Americans. This includes the, in comparison to alcohol, relatively harmless soft drug Cannabis which, for all practical purposes, has been completely non-criminalized for public purchase and consumption by adults 16 years or older during the past decades. If you are free to choose to drink and toke responsibly (or not) since your teenage years, then you learn how to be free and to be a responsible adult rather than to learn to be hypocritical, to lie and to be a drug abuser and a law breaker.

At the same time, nasty drugs such as Meth, which are abused by millions of hopeless Americans suffering from poverty, ignorance and the complete absence of hope for any kind of humane future, are virtually unknown here. Not to mention all the deaths from horribly addictive presecription drugs pushed by Big Pharma in the US where these officially sancitoned and franchised drug pushers may shamelessly propagandize the population through manipulative television advertising and corrupt pay-for-play pusher agreements with doctors, lead to tens and tens of thousands of tragic overdose deaths per year in the US. Another self-inflicted problem which is also virtually unknown here.

Funny thing about that...trust, education, culture, a focus on rationality and critical thinking, a healthy democracy of the people rather than corrupt clientelism purchased by the almighty dollar, regulated markets, an independent judiciary, an independent free press, broadly protected human rights, true freedom for individuals, protections for minorities and equality of opportunity...all these together always seems to lead to fewer problems, not more.

Something to keep in mind during the next time you "vote".



Edited by theJourney (04/03/13 02:03 PM)

Top
#2058778 - 04/03/13 03:34 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: ClsscLib]
dewster Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/07/09
Posts: 4335
Loc: Northern NJ
Originally Posted By: ClsscLib
And is the idea that marketing in our cultures went unnoticed and unrecognized until, mirabile dictu, a couple of savants on this thread discovered it for the very first time and brought this wisdom to light for the benefit of the rest of the previously ignorant world?

So you don't think a discussion of what motivates the creation of an article, or the people featured in said article, in a magazine that subsists almost solely on advertising money, is germane to this thread?
_________________________
The DPBSD Project!
THE RD-700NX Thread!
DPs Exposed! (nekid pichures!)

Top
#2058789 - 04/03/13 04:12 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: theJourney]
Scott Hamlin Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/11/12
Posts: 547
Originally Posted By: theJourney

The "stoned neighborhood" you allude to actually sounds a lot like great swaths of Baltimore or D.C. where generation upon generation of kids of the wrong color blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah


Shouldn't you be on an A.M. radio station somewhere????
_________________________
http://DulceLabs.com
Sound, Video, Design

Top
#2058791 - 04/03/13 04:17 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: ClsscLib]
Temperament Offline
Full Member

Registered: 09/19/10
Posts: 424
Loc: Hun,EU
Originally Posted By: ClsscLib
Originally Posted By: dewster
Imagine, for example, that you come from a country where everyone has been marketed to non-stop since the late 'sixties - to the point where you're not even aware of it and are openly hostile to anyone who anyone who merely broaches the subject. That should get you in the PW forum zone.


And is the idea that marketing in our cultures went unnoticed and unrecognized until, mirabile dictu, a couple of savants on this thread discovered it for the very first time and brought this wisdom to light for the benefit of the rest of the previously ignorant world?

I am grateful that, on the topic of marketing, a few here have shared with us some penetrating glimpses into the perfectly obvious.


Well, I myself used to belong to the previously ignorant world, for not that many years, getting informations solely out of the specs of manufacturers + ADs. Would such a discussions have opened up my eyes earlier, it could have saved much time and some money for me.

Interestingly, while some contributors here (including You) obstinately deny or defend the manipulative nature and power of marketing machinery, you are talking now from the "perfectly obvious".

Top
#2058801 - 04/03/13 04:39 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: Dave Horne]
MacMacMac Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/24/09
Posts: 3785
Loc: North Carolina
Amazing. A poster takes note of a piano review in the Wall Street Journal ... and the thread degenerates into a soapbox forum on marketing, politics, and drug use.

Top
#2058821 - 04/03/13 04:59 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: MacMacMac]
Temperament Offline
Full Member

Registered: 09/19/10
Posts: 424
Loc: Hun,EU

Do not forget about the cat please...

Top
#2058842 - 04/03/13 05:39 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: MacMacMac]
dewster Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/07/09
Posts: 4335
Loc: Northern NJ
Originally Posted By: MacMacMac
Amazing. A poster takes note of a piano review in the Wall Street Journal ... and the thread degenerates into a soapbox forum on marketing, politics, and drug use.

I agree, it is amazing. In all these years no thread at PW has ever deviated even slightly from the OP subject.

Call the WSJ, someone on the internet is wrong!
_________________________
The DPBSD Project!
THE RD-700NX Thread!
DPs Exposed! (nekid pichures!)

Top
#2058872 - 04/03/13 06:41 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: Dave Horne]
mabraman Offline
Full Member

Registered: 12/24/12
Posts: 321
Loc: Valencia, Spain
Well, I don't get what is this all about. By reading the article (btw quite superficial), I just see a concertist having a quick glance at some DPs, not very well selected if we attend to what is commonly spoken here, perhaps due to an even quicker and careless work of easy journalism.
This is very typical and should not cause such arguments. Hey, some of you are pissing out the flowerpot.
This is about pianos, remember?

And now a musicians joke: doublebass choruses are like lightnings; you never know where is it gonna strike, the much it will last and the damages it will cause. wink
_________________________
Learning piano from scratch since September, 2012.
Kawai ES7.

Top
#2058972 - 04/04/13 12:17 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: lisztvsthalberg]
theJourney Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/22/07
Posts: 3946
Loc: Banned
Originally Posted By: lisztvsthalberg
]I doubt that Yamaha would want someone to endorse the N2 over the N3.

Interestingly, I've noticed that the two N3s I've played seemed to have a lighter touch than the two N2s I've tried (one of which I own). Never seen any information suggesting that there would be a difference in the action but this might partly explain the preference of Ms. Dinnerstein.


I wouldn't be so sure about that. Manufacturers and retailers of consumer products often manage category and assortment structures using consumer decision making logic and according to the so-called "rule of three". The rule of three often provides a consumer with three choices: top of the line but expensive, cheap but with limitations and something in the middle which is often at a sweet spot in profitability. The real money in the AG line may be in selling as many N2s as possible. If Yamaha had first introduced the N1, then the N2 and finally the N3 they may have sold practically no N3s at all...

Top
#2058980 - 04/04/13 12:36 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: mabraman]
theJourney Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/22/07
Posts: 3946
Loc: Banned
Originally Posted By: mabraman
Well, I don't get what is this all about. By reading the article (btw quite superficial), I just see a concertist having a quick glance at some DPs, not very well selected if we attend to what is commonly spoken here, perhaps due to an even quicker and careless work of easy journalism.
This is very typical and should not cause such arguments. Hey, some of you are pissing out the flowerpot.
This is about pianos, remember?


Yes. I agree that is what it looks like: quick, casual, unofficial, believable, not-seriously-journalistic, personal and with an appeal to an apparently independent authority figure: all the things that a paid, display advertisement -- the kind that tend to get more and more ignored and less and less bought these days -- is not.

As an everyday example: global brand management at Heineken pays tens of millions of dollars for Heineken to feature "coincidentally" in blockbuster films such as the new James Bond franchise. At the end of the day you buy a $12 movie ticket to be marketed to for an hour and a half in one long product placement advertisement...

Top
#2059025 - 04/04/13 03:52 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: theJourney]
mabraman Offline
Full Member

Registered: 12/24/12
Posts: 321
Loc: Valencia, Spain
Originally Posted By: theJourney
Originally Posted By: mabraman
Well, I don't get what is this all about. By reading the article (btw quite superficial), I just see a concertist having a quick glance at some DPs, not very well selected if we attend to what is commonly spoken here, perhaps due to an even quicker and careless work of easy journalism.
This is very typical and should not cause such arguments. Hey, some of you are pissing out the flowerpot.
This is about pianos, remember?


Yes. I agree that is what it looks like: quick, casual, unofficial, believable, not-seriously-journalistic, personal and with an appeal to an apparently independent authority figure: all the things that a paid, display advertisement -- the kind that tend to get more and more ignored and less and less bought these days -- is not.




Maybe you are right, I'm not into commercial tricks. Now, what I recall for some old psicophysical experiment on perception (about so called "phi" phenomenon):
Some people are looking to a STILL point of light projected on a black board. They are alone in the room. No matter their age, sex, race, ideology or whatever, they all see the point slightly moving as seconds go by. Seems that our brain can't conceive such still, or frameless, point, and then it "gives" it some slow motion (left or right, up or down)in order to "understand" it or, better said, give it some sense .
If this things happen when looking at a point of light, what could our brain do with a review!
_________________________
Learning piano from scratch since September, 2012.
Kawai ES7.

Top
#2059043 - 04/04/13 04:41 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: theJourney]
lisztvsthalberg Offline
Full Member

Registered: 04/27/10
Posts: 121
Originally Posted By: theJourney
Originally Posted By: lisztvsthalberg
]I doubt that Yamaha would want someone to endorse the N2 over the N3.

Interestingly, I've noticed that the two N3s I've played seemed to have a lighter touch than the two N2s I've tried (one of which I own). Never seen any information suggesting that there would be a difference in the action but this might partly explain the preference of Ms. Dinnerstein.


I wouldn't be so sure about that. Manufacturers and retailers of consumer products often manage category and assortment structures using consumer decision making logic and according to the so-called "rule of three". The rule of three often provides a consumer with three choices: top of the line but expensive, cheap but with limitations and something in the middle which is often at a sweet spot in profitability. The real money in the AG line may be in selling as many N2s as possible. If Yamaha had first introduced the N1, then the N2 and finally the N3 they may have sold practically no N3s at all...
Exactly; in the store where I bought my AG from the N2s were apparently already outselling the N3s by a significant margin. I assume that this could be the case elsewhere too and that Yamaha does not need help in market segmentation of these products given the different pricing / form factor between the models. All the more reason to doubt that Yamaha would seriously want (let alone pay) a professional pianist to say that the flagship model - with all the brand prestige associated with it - is inferior to the other models in the range. However, I do think the rationale behind her preference of the N2 is interesting regardless of the nature of the article.

Top
#2059082 - 04/04/13 07:39 AM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: Dave Horne]
Dave Horne Offline
5000 Post Club Member

Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 5275
Loc: Vught, The Netherlands
I've said this several times, if Yamaha had introduced the N1 (or even the NU1) first, I would have probably bought two of them instead of buying the N3. (I do like the look of the N3 and since it is placed in my living room and not in a studio, looks do count for something.)

Fortunately, while I count my pennies, I'm not really poor, that plus what the dealer allowed me for my GranTouch 1 made the choice for me to trade up to the N3 a no brainer.

One drawback for the N2 is the speaker grill which is at the perfect height for my cat. smile
_________________________
website

mp3\wav files

AvantGrand N3, CP5

Top
#2059294 - 04/04/13 12:58 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: theJourney]
EssBrace Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/01/09
Posts: 2392
Loc: Suffolk, United Kingdom
Originally Posted By: theJourney
If you were insinuating that Amsterdam might be filled with stoners, you were only partially correct: there are indeed many, many stoners here at any one time. But, most of these stoners are tourists from North America and other countries briefly experiencing what freedom tastes like.


That's a laugh! No citizen of the European Union is free - we are all living in the quagmire of over-regulation and nanny state "social democracy" - currently being fashioned by the German Chancellor in fact (but this time with financial leverage, not military power).

We in the United Kingdom, who are denied the opportunity to vote on our membership of the most undemocratic, unaccountable institutions rife across the EU (because our leaders wouldn't like the result), gave up all our freedoms when we joined the whole sorry mess.

So don't lecture us all about the tragedies of (a fragment of) American life. No place is perfect, certainly not continental Europe. Ask the Spanish, the Irish, the Greeks and Cypriots how much they are enjoying their "European style" freedoms at the moment...
_________________________
Yamaha CP1

Top
#2059310 - 04/04/13 01:30 PM Re: WSJ article on N2 [Re: EssBrace]
theJourney Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/22/07
Posts: 3946
Loc: Banned
Originally Posted By: EssBrace
Originally Posted By: theJourney
If you were insinuating that Amsterdam might be filled with stoners, you were only partially correct: there are indeed many, many stoners here at any one time. But, most of these stoners are tourists from North America and other countries briefly experiencing what freedom tastes like.


That's a laugh! No citizen of the European Union is free - we are all living in the quagmire of over-regulation and nanny state "social democracy" - currently being fashioned by the German Chancellor in fact (but this time with financial leverage, not military power).

We in the United Kingdom, who are denied the opportunity to vote on our membership of the most undemocratic, unaccountable institutions rife across the EU (because our leaders wouldn't like the result), gave up all our freedoms when we joined the whole sorry mess.

So don't lecture us all about the tragedies of (a fragment of) American life. No place is perfect, certainly not continental Europe. Ask the Spanish, the Irish, the Greeks and Cypriots how much they are enjoying their "European style" freedoms at the moment...

If we could jettison the whole sorry lot of whinging Brits and let the UK buy itself out of the EU to become the next American state, I'm sure that everyone concerned would be quite happy. wink Certainly getting rid of one more den of thieves and having London & New York be merged into "one big bad bank city" would be good for world stability.

Top
Page 2 of 10 < 1 2 3 4 ... 9 10 >

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
75,000 Members and Growing!
-------------------
HOW TO POST PICTURES on the Piano Forums
-------------------
Sharing is Caring!
About the Buttons
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Seiler Pianos
Sheet Music
(PW is an affiliate)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Who's Online
67 registered (AndrewJCW, angga888, a-z0-9, ando, 18 invisible), 1258 Guests and 18 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
75509 Members
42 Forums
156147 Topics
2293084 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Mendelssohn on meaning in music
by phantomFive
Today at 04:08 AM
Youtube! :)
by PianoPlayer98
Today at 02:46 AM
Youtube! :)
by PianoPlayer98
Today at 01:47 AM
Headphones Sennheiser MOMENTUM On-Ear
by khopin
Today at 12:54 AM
How struts define pitch variation between tunings
by Bosendorff
Yesterday at 11:40 PM
(ads by Google)

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission