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#2059143 - 04/04/13 09:22 AM Slightly confused
SamOnThePiano Offline
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Registered: 12/13/09
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Sorry if this thread is in the wrong forum,and also for my ignorance, but it must be asked.



I've recently attained this, I was told the diploma is for ATCL (which is on the cert), but I do not know what level 4 diploma is. I am also unsure what the 90 credits are for...

I currently live in Brunei Darussalam where there is absolutely a negligent amount of classical music culture and education. So, I've been kept in the dark about what these are even by my own piano teacher.

If anyone can shed light about what I can do with my certificate (aside from framing it), it would be excellent!

Thank you in advance!


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#2059186 - 04/04/13 10:11 AM Re: Slightly confused [Re: SamOnThePiano]
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I checked the description of the "Trinity College London", and they seem to use the level system outlined in the UK National Qualifications Framework. The link leads to a PDF file.

They say the following about Level 4:
Quote:
Level 4 qualifications recognise specialist learning and involve detailed analysis of a high level of information and knowledge in an area of work or study. Learning at this level is appropriate for people working in technical and professional jobs, and/or managing and developing others. Level 4 qualifications are at a level equivalent to Certificates of Higher Education.


EDIT: But I don't know what the credits mean. Maybe you have to accomplish a certain amount of credits to really achieve level 4.
Maybe people from the UK could tell you more about it.


Edited by patH (04/04/13 10:13 AM)
Edit Reason: Included question about credits
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#2059198 - 04/04/13 10:29 AM Re: Slightly confused [Re: SamOnThePiano]
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Whatever they mean, congratulations!!
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#2060169 - 04/06/13 03:19 AM Re: Slightly confused [Re: SamOnThePiano]
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Thanks so much!

Another question:

If I were to apply for further music education, since I have this diploma, do I apply for a bachelors, or a masters, or something else that I still have to complete?
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#2060209 - 04/06/13 06:04 AM Re: Slightly confused [Re: SamOnThePiano]
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Credits are used to earn a degree at the end of Bachelor's or Masters levels. For example for my Bachelor's in Music Teaching I must accumulate a minimum of 200 credits in 4 years of study. Otherwise I will not be allowed to get a diploma.


Most universities in Europe have some sort of credit system where each subject you pass gives you credits. For example this year I study Harmony, Polyphony, Solfege, Piano, Chamber Music, Singing and more and each has a different amount of credits that it awards. Those credits can be used if you go anywhere in the world where they use a similar system. That way your academic progress is preserved no matter where you are.

Originally Posted By: SamOnThePiano
Thanks so much!

Another question:

If I were to apply for further music education, since I have this diploma, do I apply for a bachelors, or a masters, or something else that I still have to complete?


Quote:
Level 4 qualifications are at a level equivalent to Certificates of Higher Education.


If this is true then you might be able to do a Masters degree because this level 4 would be the equivalent of Bachelors in Music Performance


Edited by Teodor (04/06/13 06:07 AM)
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