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Just a question to piano tuners, essentially.
Could you try to shut down your wifi spot , or better have it shot by someone, and see if you notice less stress ?
I did, I just read about that study recently conducted on rats with very light exposure (under the official threshold)
See INERIS (industrial risk search)http://www.ineris.fr/centredoc/dp-anthomeo-version-definitive-1365002284.pdf
they where surprised themselves to see very clear effects even on very small levels.
They detected an effect on the energetic balance I just can witness of a better sleep but as I did shut down the modem myself cannot know for the physical effect I perceived
I have read that the head of a belgium mobile phone company stopped Wifi at his floor , and try to use phone lines himself
I'd like to hear about your point there - Of course I am fully in plaebo effect, but I am surprised, as I was when detecting something once my mobile phone is shut down before sleeping
Thanks for your feedback
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Hi Isaac,
I disabled the wifi in the modem a while back and never noticed any differences in sleep patterns.
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Thanks for answering Dan ,I did but I use it and it was alive at night.
Officially only part of the sleep is modified, but without people noticing it, so I am possibly at 100% in placebo effect.
I feel a low stress once the modem is disabled, immediately.
Certainly out of range of the hearing
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I really don’t like living inside any type of electromagnetic field but it is difficult to get away from these days entirely.
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it is surprising I did perceive some change, so I will make tests with my son shutting down the modem ... Anyway if only the idea that the modem is shot is enough to have a better sleep I am all for it;)
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Some will feel an effect while others may not.
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Compared to the strength of radio waves we are exposed to from radio, television and any other number of other sources, wifi is nothing.
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You might shut your own wifi modem, but what about your neighbour's? And there's still the same frequency radiowaves coming from cellphone networks. It's virtually impossible to shield yourself from radiation in this part of the spectrum unless you put yourself into a Faraday Cage. The placebo effect is very strong. The only true way to tell is to use a double-blind testing methodology (neither the tester not the testee know the state). In all tests that have been done with people who claim "electrosensitivity" to cellphones, none of them could actually tell the difference any more than a random choice of answer.
There is so much fear, uncertainty and doubt being promulgated these days that I find that more stressful than any of the supposed "radiation" effects. There's a lot of money being made on selling people "shields" for this or to "clean up" so-called "dirty" electricity. Sadly, there are a lot of people who are very suggestible and they will pay-up. Then the placebo effect works again as they are "cured" by these miraculous devices they bought.
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I worked with a guy who was always ready to spend money on highly dubious items. One day he showed up wearing a big round pendant with a labyrinth-like pattern on it. I saw at a glance that it was a printed circuit card which would've cost less than a dollar to make. He'd paid $100 for it as an "EMF protection shield". I don't think the promotional materials mentioned this, but I'm pretty sure that in southwest Ohio where he lived, the item is also 100% effective as an elephant repellent.
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Thanks guys but I am not ready to buy any gadget, I just shut down my cell phone and wifi in my home at night (and the tv) the wifi from my neighbours is very weak here. Now I certainly live in cell phone antennas range, as many of us. I will let you know if my testings provide any result. . As an Italian engineer had recognized that the 12 years he passed with 6 hours a day a cell phone on his ear gives him a brain tumor, I would certainly understand that risk is not zero. That said, watching the TV also raise my stress level 
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Compared to the strength of radio waves we are exposed to from radio, television and any other number of other sources, wifi is nothing. Bingo! Unless you live in a Faraday cage, RF is running through you at this very moment from a variety of sources.
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You might shut your own wifi modem, but what about your neighbour's? And there's still the same frequency radiowaves coming from cellphone networks. It's virtually impossible to shield yourself from radiation in this part of the spectrum unless you put yourself into a Faraday Cage. The placebo effect is very strong. The only true way to tell is to use a double-blind testing methodology (neither the tester not the testee know the state). In all tests that have been done with people who claim "electrosensitivity" to cellphones, none of them could actually tell the difference any more than a random choice of answer.
There is so much fear, uncertainty and doubt being promulgated these days that I find that more stressful than any of the supposed "radiation" effects. There's a lot of money being made on selling people "shields" for this or to "clean up" so-called "dirty" electricity. Sadly, there are a lot of people who are very suggestible and they will pay-up. Then the placebo effect works again as they are "cured" by these miraculous devices they bought. Exactly. Plus, many people hear the word "radiation" and go into a panic, thinking radio frequency radiation is the same as ionizing radiation. The only thing RF can do is cause localized heating of tissue, and even then, only in the hundreds of watts range. I really believe the .5 watts that is emitted by your cell phone does nothing adverse to you.
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As an Italian engineer had recognized that the 12 years he passed with 6 hours a day a cell phone on his ear gives him a brain tumor, I would certainly understand that risk is not zero. That said, watching the TV also raise my stress level I would be interested in seeing scientific data that verifies that conclusion. To date, there is no scientific link between cell phones and brain tumors (that I'm aware of). Like I said, we are constantly being bombarded by radio waves much stronger than wifi.
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Turning off your cell phone does not reduce the amount of cellular radio waves. Most of it comes from the stationary antennas.
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Sure but I just did it and felt something , located on my heart region.
As if a weight was taken off there
Placebo, placebo !
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Sure but I just did it and felt something , located on my heart region.
As if a weight was taken off there
Placebo, placebo !
Well, that is a different symptom. The fat lady finished singing and then sat down on your chest.
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I wonder if this would help: ![[Linked Image]](http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e355/musicalnoats/ThereIfixedit3-1.jpg)
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I wonder if this would help: That'll shield your ears from EMR stuff, but you're likely to loose your hearing. Look on the bright side. You won't be able to hear your Dr. say you have a brain tumor.
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We would be foolish to not consider what all the radio waves that are being transmitted are doing to us. Probably not good. Some friends told me about a friend of theirs who was paranoid about a nearby nuclear plant. This guy actually owned his own Geiger Counter. Carried it around with him all the time. They said he was a real pain with that thing. I told them to go buy some wicks for coleman lanterns. Leave them around his house and car. 
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A friend of mine who owns a gauss meter figured out pretty conclusively that the refrigerator/freezer, clothes dryer, and nearby high voltage power lines are the most significant sources of e/m fields in a domestic setting.
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