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#2060447 - 04/06/13 04:28 PM Debussy - Etude pour les octaves
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So short, so hard. Comments welcome, audition coming up with this soon.

http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=50632.msg551670#msg551670
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#2060951 - 04/07/13 06:58 PM Re: Debussy - Etude pour les octaves [Re: fnork]
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Very well played
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#2061418 - 04/08/13 06:07 PM Re: Debussy - Etude pour les octaves [Re: fnork]
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thanks. just wish it was easier to play...
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#2063643 - 04/12/13 05:54 PM Re: Debussy - Etude pour les octaves [Re: fnork]
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Hi, fnork! Like the other "reviewer", I have little previous exposure to the piece to recommend any specific technical improvements. However, I have two more general reactions:

You seem to be presenting this material (and I agree) as a "Grand Waltz", in the manner of a Godowsky or Schulz-Evler transcription. The typical Debussyan interruptions, however, are for my taste somewhat too percussive and abrupt -- I hear this somewhat more lyrically, and would even descend to a touch of "schmalz" in the overall presentation.

Also, in the "B" section (albeit again with interruptions), I'd like a little more explicit contrast, and again with "softer hands" than I heard here. The conclusion does in fact end so abruptly that I think this entire etude is another example of Debussy's dry humor -- an affectionate send-up of "the grand gesture" -- but with a straight face!

The best of luck to you in the audition! You play marvellously well, and are very adventurous in your choice of repertoire -- most appreciated!

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#2064096 - 04/13/13 03:43 PM Re: Debussy - Etude pour les octaves [Re: fnork]
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thanks for the comments, much appreciated! yes indeed, as someone pointed out (maybe it was Paul Roberts, in his excellent book on Debussy's piano music) then this is somehow a stylized waltz in the manner of Chabrier and others, and it should be treated waltz-like, somehow. All in all it is fairly complex however! Debussy plays around with the rhythm so much, especially with the idea that any piece in 3 is just an irregular 2, as one often has 2 accentuated beats in a bar, rather than just one (although certain sections of the piece are totally different again - the middle part with 16th triplets should more or less float and be free from accents, as long as the phrase-length is clear). In a piece of this kind, one would almost expect a downbeat in the second bar, and instead, the strongest beat of that bar is....an empty rest. The effect is that the listener doesn't necessarily get that it's in 3/8 until after the 4th bar, or even later. In any case, I want to stay out of any percussiveness or violent abruptness - I'll blame a tiny bit on the small practicing room and the piano, with its hard touch, but the rest is my own fault. So many layers of difficulties in these pieces!
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