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#2066666 - 04/18/13 05:42 PM Do you allow yourself a day off?
PianoHarry Offline
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I generally practise 7 days a week. I practise hard during the week, then my weekend practise sessions are much lighter. On the weekend tend to just practise whatever I feel like doing and don't structure the session at all. If I feel like playing blues in C major all day, that's what I do.

My wife says I would be better of to leave it alone altogether for one day a week. She is a school teacher and says that that is when new skills are mastered, after we have done the work.

I feel that I am only really messing around on the weekend anyway.

How do others feel?
Does anyone practise 7 days a week?

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#2066668 - 04/18/13 05:46 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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"Allow" myself???

I'd rather skip a meal than skip practicing.

The less charitable would probably suggest I try it.

My practice schedule is the mirror image of yours. I practice hard on weekends when I have more time to do so. During the week, whatever practicing I can't get done between 7 and 10pm doesn't happen.
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#2066676 - 04/18/13 05:58 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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I do skip days - I need the break sometimes. I think it's the sleep that actually helps the learning, and not necessarily the skipping the day. Although I do think that it's beneficial to not practice the same thing day after day after day - not sure what that mechanism is, though. But that's why I'm not in the MOYD thread - I just don't have the temperament. But some people do, and if it works for them, yea.

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#2066689 - 04/18/13 06:12 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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I usually play most days but can certainly take a day or more off here and there. Especially when I'm wrapped up in something else that is consuming my time and interest.

Welding project, me vs a small engine carburetor, today it is homemade cold process soap.

I have noticed in the past that I can play in a 'refreshed' type of way with better clarity after taking a day or two off. But I also think this works best only when taking time off occasionally.

Kind of like with medicine. If you take something once in a while it seems to work well but if you take it all the time the effect seems to get diluted. Same concept.

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#2066691 - 04/18/13 06:15 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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Confession time- I don't skip days I skip a week- I'm lazy! blush
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#2066694 - 04/18/13 06:20 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: EdwardianPiano]
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It would be a lie to say I practice every day. My intention is to practice every day. But, life will sometimes get in the way.

My teacher is great in telling me that these breaks can be good too. I'm always listening to music. So on some level I'm processng music all the time. Its good sometimes to gain perspective and a new attitude towards a piece by taking some time off. So, I have gotten better about giving myself a hard time over taking time off. It just is. If I can practice, I do.
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#2066697 - 04/18/13 06:26 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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I had a 4 year run on the MOYD list, but found out forced practice on days I was worn out from my part time day job, I was doing more harm than good. So I now take off one day a week on average. My full time job at night allows me to practice during those days with no problem.

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#2066702 - 04/18/13 06:37 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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Are you kidding? Some times I give myself a whole week off. I think I practice at best 5 days a week, more on weekends because weekdays are just too tough with family and kids, 60-hour/week job, and plus after the two children finish their practicing it's basically bed time for me too.

Come to think of it, I should have pushed the violin on the kids, so I could have the piano all to myself and not have to stand in line everyday, some days never making it.
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#2066706 - 04/18/13 06:52 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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I would like to have a day off but she (my yamaha P105) won't let me......help
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#2066714 - 04/18/13 07:04 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: earlofmar]
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Have you not found her off button yet? grin
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#2066718 - 04/18/13 07:09 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: 4evrBeginR]
dynamobt Offline
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What is this "MOYD" list that has been mentioned?


Edited by dynamobt (04/18/13 07:10 PM)
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#2066720 - 04/18/13 07:17 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: dynamobt]
dynamobt Offline
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Ahhhh, I did a search. "Master Of Your Domain". Is there a MOYD running now?
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#2066729 - 04/18/13 07:42 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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#2066742 - 04/18/13 08:21 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: dynamobt]
Michael_99 Offline
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Thanks for asking.

What is this "MOYD" list that has been mentioned?

now I know.

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#2066757 - 04/18/13 09:02 PM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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Do you allow yourself a day off?

When I started to play the piano, I would open up book 1 of learning to play the piano and play the piece slowly tumbling through the piece and do that everyday more or less subject to illness, etc.

Now, a year later, it is a totally different story. As I am working through John Thompson, I look over the next piece I will learn days in advance reading through the piece and making sure I can read all the notes, and get familiar with the piece long before I ever play it. I work on writing out scales before going to sleep. So I have learned that there is a lot you can do besides sitting on the piano bench.

If I am tired, I don't play, I sleep and then play. Playing tired doesn't work for me. Playing sick doesn't work for me. but I play every chance I get.

The big guys say if you miss a day, your friends notice it; if you miss two days, you notice it.

It is not about missing a day. It is about playing well, practicing well. Doing your best at all time when you are playing. Not just sitting on the piano bench because you do it everyday. No, No.

Pilots, bus drivers, etc. are only allowed to work so many hours and then they have to sign off. You are looking at the music and playing and you have to sign off if you aren't playing your best and get some rest/sleep.

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#2066874 - 04/19/13 02:42 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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I allow myself everything I deserve and is sane. A day, or even a week or two off (an Easter here and there) can be very profitable. Although I understand that some fine movements get untrained while these breaks happen, I find myself playing more relaxed after it, I like more my sound...It's like having some perspective. Besides, the brain needs time to build up new connections: we usually think it happens at night time, during dream phases, and it's true, but also during day time. I feel that I learn more if I make pauses.
Last, when it gets tough and you begin to feel frustrated or even angry, it's time to have a rest.
I can't have more free working days, nor as a pair or a father. But the piano is for having fun, not compulsory!!
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#2066888 - 04/19/13 03:42 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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I usually practice 6 days a week, so I always skip at least 1 day a week. I find it useful actually. On the contrary, if I skip 2 or 3 in a row, then I feel I have to make up for it, I end up playing things through to see if I remember and not really practicing in a productive way.
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#2066890 - 04/19/13 03:45 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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Well, if I go cycling or running, then two or more days without a break (I don`t do so much anyway) would cause problems. With the piano and my attention span, it`s much the same . . .my brain would hurt too much ha ha
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#2066893 - 04/19/13 03:53 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: sinophilia]
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I strive to play every day. I am on the MOYD list, and I've only fallen off the wagon twice (a one-day break in either case) since January 31. Which is ... not bad, I guess.

That said, and as others have noted: there is a marked difference between *playing* every day, and *practising* every day. I have been doing far too little structured practice for months now, and it shows. But I do allow myself to not practice when I don't feel like it. The instant piano becomes just another chore on the long list of things I have to get done every day, it will no longer be worth it to me. So to prevent that, I tend to make music, first, and practice second, only when I have the energy to do so.
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#2066903 - 04/19/13 04:13 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: Michael_99]
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Originally Posted By: Michael_99
The big guys say if you miss a day, your friends notice it; if you miss two days, you notice it.


Heh, I think it's the other way around. Certainly you know and can sense the deterioration in your own playing better than some friends (unless you're in denial and refuse to listen to yourself play!).

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#2066909 - 04/19/13 04:40 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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Originally Posted By: PianoHarry
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My wife says I would be better of to leave it alone altogether for one day a week. She is a school teacher and says that that is when new skills are mastered, after we have done the work.
...


I'll tell you when I get my own piano but I believe your wife is right. The brain does need some time to absorb the newly learned stuff. It's much easier to take smaller bites over a longer period of time than trying to take it all in one scoop. Any college student would agree. smile
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#2066934 - 04/19/13 06:50 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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Not really. My idea of taking a day off is practicing 30-60 minutes instead of three or more hours. Unless I'm marooned somewhere without a piano, with me not practicing at all is a sign of serious depression. The less I practice the worse off I am.
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#2066935 - 04/19/13 06:54 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: Clayman]
-Frycek Offline
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Originally Posted By: Clayman
Originally Posted By: PianoHarry
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My wife says I would be better of to leave it alone altogether for one day a week. She is a school teacher and says that that is when new skills are mastered, after we have done the work.
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I'll tell you when I get my own piano but I believe your wife is right. The brain does need some time to absorb the newly learned stuff. It's much easier to take smaller bites over a longer period of time than trying to take it all in one scoop. Any college student would agree. smile


You can get pretty much the same effect by alternating the pieces (or segments of a piece) you're working on.
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#2066937 - 04/19/13 06:56 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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Yes. I take a week holidays a few times a year and usually I play not on sunday.
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#2066948 - 04/19/13 07:30 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
Mete Offline
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I can't. I'm on MOYD.

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#2066956 - 04/19/13 07:58 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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So, while breaks don't hurt me, the day feels emptier somehow. If I got a day I really didn't want to practice, I would play anyway.

I actually give my family a day off on Christmas and Thanksgiving; I don't practice but I just play Christmas and Holiday tunes. I'm not sure they really notice the difference to be honest wink
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#2066961 - 04/19/13 08:13 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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I play everyday , play rather than practice , just can't get by without it.

As an ex trumpet player , the old saying goes:

If I have one day off I know it
If I have 2 days off the band know it
If I have 3 days off the audience know it

Of course the trumpet is a different beast, an evil
beast if truth be told.
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#2067003 - 04/19/13 09:44 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: -Frycek]
Michael_99 Offline
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Bobpickle, I have read your post, here:

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The big guys say if you miss a day, your friends notice it; if you miss two days, you notice it.


Heh, I think it's the other way around. Certainly you know and can sense the deterioration in your own playing better than some friends (unless you're in denial and refuse to listen to yourself play!).

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Thanks, Bob, for the correction. I should know better than to try to remember a quote with my memory that I read.



Edited by Michael_99 (04/19/13 09:45 AM)

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#2067017 - 04/19/13 09:55 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: jazztpt]
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Fun to read all the different approaches. Piano's therapy to me so I rarely miss a day.

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#2067019 - 04/19/13 09:58 AM Re: Do you allow yourself a day off? [Re: PianoHarry]
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I have days where I may only play through my scales a couple times or spend 20 minutes noodling around on the piano but I consider these as days off. I find these days off very beneficial too. My normal day means ~45-90 minutes bench time, sometimes more depending on my circumstances.
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