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#2075299 - 05/01/13 10:10 PM Need a virtuoso piece...
JordanS. Offline
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I'm looking for suggestions for a virtuous piece sorta like an encore... I want something with huge technical prowess yet tremendous musical elements...
Thanks in advance!

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#2075302 - 05/01/13 10:13 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
Mark_C Offline
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Since you're not telling us much, we don't have much to go on. So, I'll give you this good middle-of-the-road surefire virtuoso piece with tremendous musical elements:

Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody #6

If that's no good, tell us, and then we can know what better thing to say. grin

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#2075303 - 05/01/13 10:17 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
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A caveat about the piece Mark recommended: Be careful you don't break your wrists learning the ridiculous octave passages which carry on non-stop for the entire second half of the piece (Liszt loved octaves!). grin

(Especially the Presto at the end - that's a killer.)
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#2075304 - 05/01/13 10:17 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
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My suggestion: his Feux Follets. It requires "huge technical prowess" but also has "tremendous musical elements" - I think. ha
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#2075306 - 05/01/13 10:18 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: Polyphonist]
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Caveat regarding what Poly suggested: the piece is impossible. ha

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#2075307 - 05/01/13 10:20 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
Polyphonist Offline
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How about Chopin 10/7? Or Rachmaninoff 23/9? ha
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#2075313 - 05/01/13 10:33 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
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Heck, why not Saint Saen/Liszt/Horowitz "Danse Macabre"?
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#2075316 - 05/01/13 10:37 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
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Dare I suggest Islamey?

Yeah, I went there. smile

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#2075317 - 05/01/13 10:40 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: Goomer Piles]
Mark_C Offline
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C'mon, let's be serious!
How about Alkan's Etude in G-sharp minor, Op. 39, No. 8....



it's half an hour long grin

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#2075318 - 05/01/13 10:41 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
Mark Gordon Offline
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I would play Liebestraum as opposed to Rhapsody # 6. I played #6 when I entered my freshman year in college. It was fun but the Bb oom pah oom pah section is a little cheesy.

check this out and you'll see what I mean:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DFDUN8Uth8

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#2075319 - 05/01/13 10:41 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
Polyphonist Offline
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This poster is supposedly also playing Rach 2, the Grieg concerto, Rachmaninov's Polichinelle Op 3 No 4, Horowitz's Stars and Stripes, Chopin's Etude 25/1, Prokofiev's 3rd sonata, and the Chopin Heroic Polonaise. Surely they wouldn't have trouble finding something, if they have that much experience?
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#2075321 - 05/01/13 10:42 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: Mark_C]
Polyphonist Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
C'mon, let's be serious!
How about Alkan's Etude in G-sharp minor, Op. 39, No. 8....



it's half an hour long grin

Heck, play the whole Opus 39! grin

(It's just 3 1/2 hours of the most technically demanding music ever written, what's the problem?)
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#2075338 - 05/01/13 11:15 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
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Not that I can't find anything... I'm just looking for something that will bring an audience of 3500 to the feet without fail... Just really can't repeat any of the others I've done before...

Islamy?!?!?!?! are you crazy?!?! j/k

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#2075341 - 05/01/13 11:17 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
Mark_C Offline
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You need to tell us more or else we could say almost anything since thousands of things fit the bill.
And it might all mean nothing for you. smile

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#2075344 - 05/01/13 11:20 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: Mark_C]
JordanS. Offline
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Well, it's got to be less then 3 1/2 minutes... and it really needs a lot that a non musical crowd would love... yet still be educating musically to them... IK not making much sense am i?

Just was curious if you guys had any ideas!


Edited by JordanS. (05/01/13 11:21 PM)

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#2075346 - 05/01/13 11:22 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
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Originally Posted By: JordanS.
Not that I can't find anything... I'm just looking for something that will bring an audience of 3500 to the feet without fail... Just really can't repeat any of the others I've done before...

Islamy?!?!?!?! are you crazy?!?! j/k


Islamy would bring me to my feet without fail.










and I would be out the door in 5 seconds
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#2075347 - 05/01/13 11:23 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
Mark_C Offline
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Originally Posted By: JordanS.
Well, it's got to be less then 3 1/2 minutes... and it really needs a lot that a non musical crowd would love... yet still be educating musically to them....

It's starting to remind me of how some people describe the perfect partner they're looking for. grin

Anyway now you're giving us more to go on.

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#2075348 - 05/01/13 11:23 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: Damon]
JordanS. Offline
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Haha! Yeah... well, playing it is another thing!

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#2075349 - 05/01/13 11:24 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
Damon Online   happy
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Originally Posted By: JordanS.
Well, it's got to be less then 3 1/2 minutes... and it really needs a lot that a non musical crowd would love... yet still be educating musically to them... IK not making much sense am i?

Just was curious if you guys had any ideas!


Prokofiev Toccata
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#2075350 - 05/01/13 11:24 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
Mark_C Offline
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Originally Posted By: JordanS.
Haha! Yeah... well, playing it is another thing!

Looks like you missed his bottom line. grin

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#2075351 - 05/01/13 11:26 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
Polyphonist Offline
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Originally Posted By: JordanS.
Well, it's got to be less then 3 1/2 minutes

Alkan Op 39! Alkan Op 39!

Oh wait, that's 3 1/2 hours. grin

I don't know, that's a huge restriction, maybe Liszt's Grand Galop Chromatique?
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#2075354 - 05/01/13 11:28 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: Mark_C]
JordanS. Offline
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Damon... Hope that's supposed to be funny!!!!! wink

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#2075355 - 05/01/13 11:28 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
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Try 4'33 by John Cage. It's short and incredibly technically challenging. Be careful not to break your fingers.

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#2075356 - 05/01/13 11:31 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JoelW]
Mark_C Offline
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
Try 4'33 by John Cage. It's short and incredible technically challenging. Be careful not to break your fingers.

.....and without too much trouble it could be shortened to fit his limit!

And talk about bringing people to their feet: I got the most enthusiastic applause of anything I've ever played when I played this. No joke! (And it tells something of my talent!)

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#2075359 - 05/01/13 11:34 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: JoelW
Try 4'33 by John Cage. It's short and incredible technically challenging. Be careful not to break your fingers.

.....and without too much trouble it could be shortened to fit his limit!

And talk about bringing people to their feet: I got the most enthusiastic applause of anything I've ever played when I played this. No joke! (And it tells something of my talent!)


Hard-earned talent! grin

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#2075360 - 05/01/13 11:34 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
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This thread sure is moving fast!
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#2075363 - 05/01/13 11:37 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JordanS.]
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I've written a piece called 3'28"; maybe the OP would like to buy the score? It's under the time limit, and only costs $19,999.99!

The second copy will be ten times that, and the third ten times the second, so get it now!

grin
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#2075364 - 05/01/13 11:37 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: Polyphonist]
JoelW Offline
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
This thread sure is moving fast!


Don't you just love it?

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#2075365 - 05/01/13 11:37 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: JoelW]
Polyphonist Offline
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Originally Posted By: JoelW
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
This thread sure is moving fast!


Don't you just love it?

You missed my last post! I'm marketing my product! ha
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#2075366 - 05/01/13 11:38 PM Re: Need a virtuoso piece... [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
I've written a piece called 3'28"...

ha ha ha


(Do you do jobs 'to order'? Fnork was looking for a 10-15 minute piece....)

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