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I'm insinuating an insinuation.

(What does that mean? )

That you started it :P

How about if you two take this personal back and forth to PM's?

The intention was not to insult each other, we're just having fun. I'll stop now.

Thank you.

I'll stop too.

Maybe because us a few of us (myself and 2 or 3 other twisted souls) find him hilarious? (OK, that's probably not the reason.)

My question to you, Polyphonist, would be: why ban him? He insults no one, yet he receives every form of insult and ridicule imaginable. He costs PW nothing because he seldom writes, and his recordings are stored at Box. He wastes no one's time because his threads, like all other threads, are mouse-selectable. So any time wasted is purely voluntary. So what's the harm?

Some might say that BachMach2 is an acquired taste, but he's not. He's an immediate taste. It only took you 20 seconds of listening to suggest banning him, and you're not alone. The first PW critique of his first recording (by liszt85) was: "The recording sucked as did the playing." Despite the heavy nuance of this comment, I think I caught the drift.

So if his very presence in this hallowed forum offends you, then by all means, seek a ban. Until then, I will continue to enjoy his "shtick". But could you just give me a "heads up", so I can accelerate my listening? I'm only up to Beethoven No. 11.

You've hit the nail on the head !!!!!!

LOL!!! Old Man hit the nail on the head twice in one post, with his own degree of nuance!



And since BachMach2 has said that, given enough time, he will play through everything, we have a lot to look forward to. Go BachMach!!!

Looks like you have a pleasantly blind spot.

It's fraudulent.

For those of us who know what's going on, what you said is true. But people who don't (yet) know what he's doing, which is pretty much anyone who's fairly new here, DO have their time wasted. (Likewise people who aren't new who just don't buy what he's doing, but that's their problem.)


See above.
You're having the the same blind spot.

What in the world is going on with the whole bachmach2 thing. Good lord.

Mark -

Of course !!!!

But once those folks realize what's going on, the time wasted is indeed purely voluntary !!

Indeed! And it doesn't take long to realize what is going on. If people really ignored him he would probably stop, but he keeps getting a lot of attention, so he keeps having fun.

Looks like you enjoy wasting your time.

One might think so but, it took our "brain trust," our entire brain trust (such as there was) working together, utilizing all their brainpower (such as there was), about a month.

What I'm caring about is new members. As we've seen, they usually don't know for a while (how could they?), and waste time meanwhile.

Wow! Someone might waste 5 minutes of their time! Must be some very busy and highly important person. What a tragedy!

The idea that someone's time is so valuable and important that losing a few minutes is a problem is beyond ridiculous and full of self importance.

I didn't bother wasting 5 minutes of my time, but I did waste a whole 20 seconds after turning down the volume on my computer wasn't enough to make it bearable to listen to. Now I want my 20 seconds back (and my sanity). Seriously, this guy can play well enough to mock the music, but I doubt I'll be listening to any more

But it seems, mostly, that you care that they think what you want them to think, as you waste more time in BM2 threads than anyone else.

Mark, I think it may be you who has the blind spot.

Are you saying that among all the many thousands of threads on this forum, only BachMach2's contributions are a waste of time? All the rest are transcendental experiences, posts of great depth and profound insight? Speaking for myself, I've wasted plenty of time perusing threads that I found boring, silly, or simply "above my pay grade", so I could easily make the same claim. But since I control the mouse that sits on my desk, I don't feel that I need a protector.


Fraudulent? Isn't "fraud" a legal term? Wikipedia says fraud is "intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual." What has BachMach "gained", beyond a few chuckles? And what damage has been inflicted upon the rest of us?

Here's a quick summary of BachMach's crimes, as I see it:

1. He posted an introductory essay ("What it 'means' to be a pianist"), an incoherent assemblage of non-sequiturs that I personally found hilarious, despite the fact I didn't understand a word of it.
2. He posts technically poor recordings of equally poor piano playing, which he prefaces with semi-delusional descriptions of their value.
3. He occasionally posts critiques of others' performances, which are also incoherent, but are never rude or strident.

Basically he confines himself to Members Recordings, he never forces himself on us, and his posts are clearly labeled. I think those few newbies who happen upon his threads will survive the experience without significant mental trauma.

A lot of people (a whole lot) have only learned of what's going on because of such posts, and had kept wasting their time on these recordings till then. If you consider this a waste, fine. Because you're wrong.


Not at all for what they are.

Exactly.

The whole idea that wasting a few minutes is something serious is ludicrous. The person who "wasted a few minutes" would have to be incredibly self rightoeus and self important to feel someone had committed some "fraudulunt" act if they fell for BM2's completely obvious and simple joke.

An absurd example of making something out of nothing.