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You'll have to point it out. I've only given one specific "major 2nd" and CD is a major 2nd. If there's an error, I'm missing it.
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Sand Tiger,
I installed Piano Ear Trainer and tried it. It had a problem on my LG Optimus L9. It would play say an Eb. I hit Eb and it would come back and say: Correct! It's a D!
It did this every time, off a semitone. Do you see anything like this or is it operator/phone problem?
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You'll have to point it out. I've only given one specific "major 2nd" and CD is a major 2nd. If there's an error, I'm missing it. "A" is used before a consonant, and "an" before a vowel.  (with a few exceptions, of course - everything has exceptions, but this is not one of them.)
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First of all, the average of 1 and 2 is not 2.5 - just making sure we're clear on these things.  And no, when you mix two or more sounds you don't get a single sound with a frequency that is the average of those of the original sounds. Have you ever observed that happening with any other types of sounds, besides notes being struck on the piano?  You can't compare colors and sounds; one is visual and the other is auditory. They are perceived in different ways. When you strike a chord on the piano, you hear all the notes at once. Everyone hears all the notes of a chord, but only someone with a good ear can hear them separately and individually identify them. The only way to hear a C# is to play it. You can't play a C and a D at the same time and hope to hear the note between them; if that were the case then what would be the difference between playing C#, C-D, B-D#, Bb-E, A-F, Ab-F#, and so on? Intervals would not exist; music theory would be out the window. Ops. Sorry man. You are right. I meant "1.5" . And i guess i understand your point. Let's say i have 2 brothers. And my voice is Bass , and my younger brother's is baritone, and my youngest brother's is tenor. When i and my youngest brother scream at the same time , my parents won't say "oh , our 2nd son is screaming"  . They will now that is the scream of 1st and the 3rd together. I hope i gave a fine example.
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Keystring, ty man. I guess i am starting to understand .
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Sand Tiger,
I installed Piano Ear Trainer and tried it. It had a problem on my LG Optimus L9. It would play say an Eb. I hit Eb and it would come back and say: Correct! It's a D!
It did this every time, off a semitone. Do you see anything like this or is it operator/phone problem? I did not have this problem. I just tested the app using a software tuner and a microphone and the app seems to be generating the correct tones on my Android tablet with an 8" screen, when I press the keys on the screen. The C4 sound hits C4 on the tuner, and on the down the line. My guess is that it may be a programmer error. One problem with Android apps is that there are so many different screen sizes and resolutions, that it can be difficult for the programmer to calibrate the touches correctly for every screen.
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"A" is used before a consonant, and "an" before a vowel. (with a few exceptions, of course - everything has exceptions, but this is not one of them.)
Ah, another cum grano salis moment. Tbh, my attention was on not having inadvertently given wrong musical information, since people are trying to learn here. I'm not too worried about anyone picking up typos.
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I only pursued the point because you asked.
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I only pursued the point because you asked. You pointed out mistakes. We are helping people who are learning about music, and mistakes can mislead. That is why I asked.
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And i guess i understand your point. Let's say i have 2 brothers. And my voice is Bass , and my younger brother's is baritone, and my youngest brother's is tenor. When i and my youngest brother scream at the same time , my parents won't say "oh , our 2nd son is screaming" . They will now that is the scream of 1st and the 3rd together. I hope i gave a fine example. An interesting but different thought. This doesn't work on piano but it does with other instruments. Among singers you will have different ranges of voices, with the four main ones being bass, tenor, alto, and soprano. Their voices still overlap, though. A male tenor might reach middle C, and a female alto could sing that same middle C. But because of the quality of the voices, the thickness of the vocal chords, that same pitch will have a different quality. The same is true when different instruments play the same pitch. It's just another interesting thing about music and sound.
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I only pursued the point because you asked. You pointed out mistakes. We are helping people who are learning about music, and mistakes can mislead. That is why I asked. Oh, forget it.
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