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#2080821 - 05/11/13 12:45 PM Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera.
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Hello all,

Here I have my entire freshman recital on youtube. I'm pretty proud of it, as it's my first lengthy public performance. I just wanted you all to check it out, if you wanted to. The program with time starts is in the description.

Bach Prelude and Fugue (A Minor, book II of the WTC) 00:37 , Beethoven's Sonata op. 81a (Les Adieux) 04:25 , Liszt's second ballade 20:52 , Debussy's Ce qu'a vu le vent d'ouest 34:49 , and Ginastera's Sonata no. 1, op 22 38:22 .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMp5FFIY-gs

Enjoy (hopefully eek)!


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Edited by DonaldLee (05/11/13 01:08 PM)
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#2080832 - 05/11/13 01:06 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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Perhaps you want to provide us with a link also? wink

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#2080835 - 05/11/13 01:07 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: fnork]
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....Oh yeah... crazy
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#2080838 - 05/11/13 01:11 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: fnork]
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Yeah -- I was looking for that too. grin

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#2080840 - 05/11/13 01:14 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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Donald: Congratulations! I just did a quick skim so far, and it's immediately obvious that this was a terrific performance, especially for a freshman recital -- heck, for anything. smile

Superb in every respect.

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#2080964 - 05/11/13 05:39 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: Mark_C]
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Mark,

Thank you very much for your kind comment! I prepared very hard, although, you've probably heard that there a few..erm... sketchy moments, but I'm trying to block those out of my mind ha.

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#2081063 - 05/11/13 09:44 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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Granting that I just skimmed so far, I didn't hear anything close to a sketchy moment. But watch out, I might come back and listen harder.... ha

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#2081321 - 05/12/13 10:56 AM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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Originally Posted By: DonaldLee

Enjoy (hopefully eek)!


I did! Thanks for the post. This is a very good freshman recital and I particularly enjoyed the Liszt ballade (no surprise for those who know me ha) and the Ginastera sonata. Very nicely done!
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#2081465 - 05/12/13 04:52 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: Damon]
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Originally Posted By: Damon
Originally Posted By: DonaldLee

Enjoy (hopefully eek)!


I did! Thanks for the post. This is a very good freshman recital and I particularly enjoyed the Liszt ballade (no surprise for those who know me ha) and the Ginastera sonata. Very nicely done!

Wouldn't the fact that you love the Liszt Ballade make you MORE picky about the way it was played, and therefore enjoy LESS performances of it? grin

(I think the Beethoven and the Liszt are the "greatest" pieces on the program.)

For a freshman recital, this is very good. Keep at it. laugh
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#2081593 - 05/12/13 09:34 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: Polyphonist]
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[...]Wouldn't the fact that you love the Liszt Ballade make you MORE picky about the way it was played, and therefore enjoy LESS performances of it? grin [...]


Polyp, your logic is unbecoming.
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#2081601 - 05/12/13 09:55 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
For a freshman recital, this is very good.
By adding your qualifying phrase you severely compromise your "compliment". Not necessary, useful or beneficial IMO. I think the OP is well aware that no one is evaluating him as if this was his Carnegie Hall recital debut.


Edited by pianoloverus (05/12/13 10:02 PM)

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#2081602 - 05/12/13 09:56 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: Damon
Originally Posted By: DonaldLee

Enjoy (hopefully eek)!


I did! Thanks for the post. This is a very good freshman recital and I particularly enjoyed the Liszt ballade (no surprise for those who know me ha) and the Ginastera sonata. Very nicely done!

Wouldn't the fact that you love the Liszt Ballade make you MORE picky about the way it was played, and therefore enjoy LESS performances of it? grin


No. That's not to say I like every performance of it, but I have a bit of wiggle-room. I have less wiggle room for things I like less. For instance, I'm not much interested in Chopin that Horowitz isn't playing.
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#2081623 - 05/12/13 11:10 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
For a freshman recital, this is very good.
By adding your qualifying phrase you severely compromise your "compliment". Not necessary, useful or beneficial IMO. I think the OP is well aware that no one is evaluating him as if this was his Carnegie Hall recital debut.

Agree totally, including/especially because this is way too good for that, way better than that sounds.

Originally Posted By: Cinnamonbear
Polyp

ha

But he's better than that sounds. grin

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#2081629 - 05/12/13 11:48 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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You're cranky old men who like to go around finding things to criticize, both of you. grin
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#2081630 - 05/12/13 11:49 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: Mark_C]
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Polyp

ha

But he's better than that sounds. grin

Hmm... "Polyphonist" - one who hones polyps. grin
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#2081776 - 05/13/13 09:14 AM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: Polyphonist]
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You're cranky old men who like to go around finding things to criticize, both of you. grin
If you don't want to be criticized for inappropriate and obnoxious comments then you should avoid making them.


Edited by pianoloverus (05/13/13 09:31 AM)

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#2081870 - 05/13/13 12:01 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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Polyphonist and Damon, thank you very much for your comments!
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#2081961 - 05/13/13 03:19 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
For a freshman recital, this is very good.
By adding your qualifying phrase you severely compromise your "compliment". Not necessary, useful or beneficial IMO. I think the OP is well aware that no one is evaluating him as if this was his Carnegie Hall recital debut.
I doubt that Polyp-honist meant anything by it, and I'm sure the "qualifying phrase" would've gone largely unnoticed had you not shined a GIANT SPOTLIGHT on it.

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#2081962 - 05/13/13 03:21 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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I have no problem with such "qualifying phrases" smile
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#2081970 - 05/13/13 03:42 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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Originally Posted By: DonaldLee
I have no problem with such "qualifying phrases" smile

I didn't think you did, since you specifically thanked that Polyp guy. grin

And let me add to what the others have said: These are wonderful performances. I've only listened to the Bach and the Liszt, and will return to the others later. But you have immense talent, Donald, so I hope you'll continue your studies with the same dedication to your craft that got you to this point. smile


Edited by Old Man (05/13/13 04:45 PM)

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#2081996 - 05/13/13 04:38 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
You're cranky old men who like to go around finding things to criticize, both of you. grin
If you don't want to be criticized for inappropriate and obnoxious comments then you should avoid making them.

Who do you think looks obnoxious here? Nobody else seemed to have a problem with my comment, and as Old Man said, if you hadn't brought it up then there wouldn't be an issue.
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#2081999 - 05/13/13 04:48 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: Polyphonist]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
You're cranky old men who like to go around finding things to criticize, both of you. grin
If you don't want to be criticized for inappropriate and obnoxious comments then you should avoid making them.

Who do you think looks obnoxious here? Nobody else seemed to have a problem with my comment, and as Old Man said, if you hadn't brought it up then there wouldn't be an issue.
Another other poster strongly agreed with me immediately after I made my post. Your "nobody else" comment is false.

And this is not the first time you have made comments like this. Far from it. In fact, in this very thread right before my post another poster called another comment you made about a different issue "unbecoming".

I'm glad to hear the OP has no problem with your comment, but I certainly think others receiving such a comment might not feel the same. If I thought there was no chance he would be hurt by your comment, I would not have responded the way I did. I think he was being quite generous.


Edited by pianoloverus (05/13/13 05:23 PM)

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#2082003 - 05/13/13 05:01 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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I think you're being absurd, but what is a comment "like this"? Can you point to another example of a time I've used a comment "like this"?

There was nothing offensive in my comment whatsoever.
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#2082038 - 05/13/13 06:28 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
You're cranky old men who like to go around finding things to criticize, both of you. grin
If you don't want to be criticized for inappropriate and obnoxious comments then you should avoid making them.

Who do you think looks obnoxious here? Nobody else seemed to have a problem with my comment, and as Old Man said, if you hadn't brought it up then there wouldn't be an issue.
Another other poster strongly agreed with me immediately after I made my post. Your "nobody else" comment is false.

And this is not the first time you have made comments like this. Far from it. In fact, in this very thread right before my post another poster called another comment you made about a different issue "unbecoming".

Actually, I think Cinnamonbear was using irony to agree with Polyphonist's logic. But that was just my take. I could be wrong.

And normally I would agree with the substance of what you were saying. But Mark had already used the same phrase, so I think it's one of those kinds of phrases that "trips off the tongue" (okay, "fingers") in this type of situation, so I don't think either Mark or Polyphonist had any ill intent. For some of us, this freshman recital sounded more like a senior recital, so I think it would seem very natural to add that qualifier.

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#2082041 - 05/13/13 06:39 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: Old Man]
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I doubt that Polyp-honist meant anything by it, and I'm sure the "qualifying phrase" would've gone largely unnoticed had you not shined a GIANT SPOTLIGHT on it.

Actually it hit me over the head big-time, before I saw any 'spotlighting.'

But actually the whole thing could be my fault, because I had said "for a freshman recital" (although together with "especially") and I wondered if maybe Poly was just taking off from that.

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#2082154 - 05/13/13 10:35 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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#2082155 - 05/13/13 10:36 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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Great recital, BTW!
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#2082160 - 05/13/13 10:39 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: Brendan]
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#2082185 - 05/13/13 11:34 PM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: DonaldLee]
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Thanks, Brendan and Old Man!


Edited by DonaldLee (05/13/13 11:49 PM)
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#2082321 - 05/14/13 08:43 AM Re: Bach, Beethoven, Liszt, Debussy, and Ginastera. [Re: Old Man]
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[...] Actually, I think Cinnamonbear was using irony to agree with Polyphonist's logic. But that was just my take. [...]


Nope. No irony this time, my friend. I was (and am) irritated by Polyphonist's presumption and what I am beginning to think of as a lack of grace in his posts, when considered cumulatively.

Donald, I have been eager to listen to this ever since you posted it. (It was a long weekend of phone line issues, with up and down internet service. frown Now that my internet is back to being consistent, I can finally listen, and...) I like what I'm hearing! First of all, what a prodigious program! I listened to the Bach and Beethoven, then skipped to the Debussy (gotta bolt to work this morning. Thanks for the clickable times in the description--that's slick!). Your execution of those three selections alone make quite a statement. Obviously, you are serious, you are capable, and you are committed. What I hear is very impressive, very solid and purposeful playing! Well done.

I'll be back to listen to the rest later. I apologize for my part in messing up your recital thread with the all-too-common PW social detritus. Please keep posting here so we can enjoy your music making and track your progress! More comments to follow...

--Andy

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