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There are 430 people looking into the "piano" forum right now. But only 375 on this "Digital" site. Being an observant sort of a fella, I`ve noticed that it used to be consistently the other way around . . . .could this trend herald the demise of the digital piano? I think I`m going to cry . . . .!
"I am not a man. I am a free number" " "
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Pretty sure the digital forum is doing fine. A few hundred logged in users is more than enough.
Digital pianos are ever increasing in popularity and people will always be interested in them. There's a lot of volatility in forum numbers, though, so it's not unusual for the piano forum to have as many people or more browsing it any given time.
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We'll...there's not a lot of new stuff under the sun , is there. The only daring , sort of new stuff is in a short list:
1) Physispiano (whether you like it or not). Of course there;s the V-piano, but that has been around for some time, so all the things that can be said about it have been said I guess.
2) VPC1
3) Perhaps a little the Numa Concert. Although the concept is not revolutionary , it is a new addition to the high-end stage portfolio.
5) PX5 - although that's a different beast.
The rest is recycling and minimal updating what was there already for years and will be as it seems. Bit more ROM memory here, few more sounds there , few other small tweaks , that's it. Nothing to really miss some sleep about.
Cabinet piano's: uhm ...anything really revolutionary new there ? Think not... Stage piano's : nothing real new from Roland, Yamaha , Nord, Kawai (but small incremental updates here and there). Workstations: Motif XF or Fantom G anyone ? New Kurzweil in the shops to buy ? Kronos "Z" update ? Nothing to talk about a lot there.
Even on the software side there is no real breakthrough. Pianoteq update making it a bit more authentic, some more multi-GB library updates. But nothing in the line of a true and completely stunning software physical modeling piano, or hybrid - like Super Natural.
Long way to say it - but due to the fact that about current and past products just about everything has been said and shared , people may have collected the information they need already and don't have to linger for very long or often on forums for info on the "latest and greatest, absolutely fabulous , revolutionary and stunning" stream of new products that are coming out continuously. When developments are flat/dull, talk will be less noisy and dynamic too I think.
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Peter, I think you should occupy yourself more with the piano you have at home rather than with "deep" thoughts like this. It will be better for your skin and overall well-being as well.
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I find statistics really fascinating . . .I can`t play piano all the time, you know. Does my head in . . . .
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I find statistics really fascinating . . .I can`t play piano all the time, you know. Does my head in . . . . Try playing with your fingers next time. Less painful
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I find statistics really fascinating . . .I can`t play piano all the time, you know. Does my head in . . . . Try playing with your fingers next time. Less painful Haha, classic!
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Could it be that there are a significant number of DP sub-forum browsers who are devoting more time to the mothers of the family, being Mother's Day tomorrow?
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Could it be that there are a significant number of DP sub-forum browsers who are devoting more time to the mothers of the family, being Mother's Day tomorrow?
Not where I live! Mothers day has been and gone this year.
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Could it be that there are a significant number of DP sub-forum browsers who are devoting more time to the mothers of the family, being Mother's Day tomorrow?
Not where I live! Mothers day has been and gone this year. Mass Observation Day honoring George VI’s Coronation for the folks in the UK?
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Don`t remember him. . . Didn`t he act in "The King`s Speech"? He was very good . . .
The AP Brigade are still outstripping us! This is a major cause for concern. . . . I`ve noticed in my local piano shop that acoustics are invading traditional Digital territory ... Bloody Fascists . . .
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peterws, I have read you post, here:
There are 430 people looking into the "piano" forum right now. But only 375 on this "Digital" site. Being an observant sort of a fella, I`ve noticed that it used to be consistently the other way around . . . .could this trend herald the demise of the digital piano?
I think I`m going to cry . . . .! cry
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If you go to any piano store, music store - the piano department of the store is empty - everytime - but the digital piano department is full and busy, of young and old people interested. As for the newsgroups digital versus the other forums. When you buy an acoustic piano - that is it - most people can only afford one acoustic . I just did the math. For my acoustic, the money I spent on the it - I could have bought 375 digital pianos. When you talk of pianos, it is a Steinway or Yam etc., X,Y, Z but when you talk about digitals, it is a J9L2, P95, P105, P150, etc. And there is a new model of a digital every day, or week or every month. Because they are cheap - and if you are rich - you can upgrade everday and still not be satisfied or have the lastest digital.
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I really like having both. Digitals can't touch my AP concert grand, but there are things my fp-7 does that my AP cannot. I think because these serve two different niches, there will always be a market for both. DPs have a lot of possibilities that I dont' think have been realized yet, so as long as the technology increases, they will be around.
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. . . .could this trend herald the demise of the digital piano? I think I`m going to cry . . . .! Oh yes. The beginning of the end. The demise of the digital piano. Gone, along with the victrola, telegraph, and the greatly loved outhouse. It's just terrible! Lamentations galore.
Ron Your brain is a sponge. Keep it wet. Mary Gae George The focus of your personal practice is discipline. Not numbers. Scott Sonnon
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According to one of the local dealers, he sells about 100 digital pianos per one acoustic. I see bright future for DP, specially by improving modelling technology.
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Reading a thread and buying are two different things...
Digitals out sell acoustics by far...
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I, for one, am getting slightly disappointed by digitals. 10 years ago it seemed fascinating to me to have a digital piano which didn't need tuning, had weighted action and clean piano sound. I've owned many brands and models during this period. It's no more fascinating to me. I am looking for *real* piano experience and I realize it is not possible with a digital piano. It may be very close to real but it has reached a point of saturation where the best digital pianos are not much different than the cheapest ones. And it's kind of ironical that one of the best digital pianos is actually using a real grand piano action... The moment I "upgrade" from a flat to a house, I'll also upgrade from a digital to acoustic piano.
That's purely my personal opinion but I confirm that my preference for digital pianos has been declining for the last few years. To the point where I am convinced an acoustic is better than digital despite all the obvious shortcomings of acoustic pianos.
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Just the same reservation, CyberGene.
We DP enthusiast had to learn to respect what an amazing invention acoustic instruments were in mankind's newer history.
They were for the last some centuries the most refined high-tech products to their time (think of a pipe organ, or even keyboard string instruments.g.).
Meanwhile I have considered to retire from this forum, at least temporarily, as I have just written on another thread, for the reason of having some sort of a "knowledge saturation syndrome".
Come and go is a pretty usual habit among amateur posters - and a healthy one. Without getting payed for being active motivation is diminishing with time as your role is getting more and more repetitive and the moments of knew information and knowledge for yourself getting scarce. In the past half year I could learn how this special market works, how fast development goes, what the development cycle is and what to be expected.
Beside of learning (technicalities, both digital and acoustic, global community, some English practice) it was a pleasure to go with a nice folk with a very noble common cultural interests.
But a break will be refreshing. Perhaps some weeks later, because I will share first my experience with my overdue new DP.
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. . . .could this trend herald the demise of the digital piano? I think I`m going to cry . . . .! Oh yes. The beginning of the end. The demise of the digital piano. Gone, along with the victrola, telegraph, and the greatly loved outhouse. It's just terrible! Lamentations galore. Frost on the windows, cold feet on the lino, jumpers for goal-posts... (it's an "English" thing)
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I, for one, am getting slightly disappointed by digitals. 10 years ago it seemed fascinating to me to have a digital piano which didn't need tuning, had weighted action and clean piano sound. I've owned many brands and models during this period. It's no more fascinating to me. This isn't unique to digital pianos, though. As I researched dSLR's and the accompanying accessories I was fascinated and enthralled. When I bought one I was so impressed and talked to everyone about it...for a while. Now it's just another appliance in my home I use but hardly think about. I have a ton of other electronics that are the same way. Researching something new and awesome is often more fascinating than owning it. I think acoustics are the same way although you don't see the drive for new features and models that you see in digitals and other electronics. When you don't own something, the easiest things to see are its endless possibilities. Once you own it, the easiest things to see are its (and your) limitations.
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