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#2082195 - 05/14/13 12:20 AM Hal Leonard Adult Beginner Course vs. Alfred Adult Method
pianolover85 Offline
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Although I have seen numerous positive references on this site for the Alfred method, I have not seen any reviews or experiences with the Hal Leonard adult course...

Here is the link for you to see: (the link is only intended for review and comment purposes to help me and other members make a better decision in terms of choosing their course)

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#2082827 - 05/15/13 12:11 AM Re: Hal Leonard Adult Beginner Course vs. Alfred Adult Method [Re: pianolover85]
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Though I've never seen a review of it by those here, I've read good things here: http://www.true-piano-lessons.com/piano-music-books.html

and just found this cool link here: http://www.musicedmarket.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=86&Itemid=99

To provide a disclaimer to the above review, I just read a full page of Yahoo! Answers with people supporting Faber & Faber just to show how everybody likes something different. A method book (or series) is just something to follow for the first few months to years depending on the sequence and teacher (and/or lack thereof) to provide a foundation in a lifetime of music-making - no one is likely to be perfectly comprehensive or perfectly suited for each and every different individual. Pick one and stick with it patiently until you can play each and every piece to a reasonable standard (a teacher can tell you when, or you could compare with cd recordings that come with the book(s)) and by the time you're done, you'll have probably learned all the same exact things the other books taught as well (and you may be just as likely at the end of all of them to want to be done with the books and to start studying non-method repertoire).

Edited by Bobpickle (05/15/13 12:19 AM)
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#2082896 - 05/15/13 03:43 AM Re: Hal Leonard Adult Beginner Course vs. Alfred Adult Method [Re: Bobpickle]
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I've tried several methods {including Alfred and Adult Faber book 1} and of them all I preferred the Hal Leonard, both in approach and choice of music. I felt it developed my LH far better than Alfred but then I disliked Alfred's heavy focus on chords. I enjoyed the Faber but not enough to continue to Book 2. I do supplement which I think is important as one progresses but for a complete beginner,based of course on my own personal preferences, either the HL or Faber would be a good choice IMHO. Some might find HL book 1 a little slow but I've been told that the Book 2 is more challenging than the Faber 2.

#2082940 - 05/15/13 07:01 AM Re: Hal Leonard Adult Beginner Course vs. Alfred Adult Method [Re: pianolover85]
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I also prefer HL to Alfred for the same reasons as Sundew mentions. Alfred is too focused on chords in the LH especially, and they get to that too soon in the pianist's development to be able to play them well. First independence of the fingers needs to be established and HL does a good job of this. Usually one cruises through the first half of Book 1, but not always. With Faber Adult method, it was alright, but I don't think the music is as interesting as HL.
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#2083050 - 05/15/13 11:24 AM Re: Hal Leonard Adult Beginner Course vs. Alfred Adult Method [Re: pianolover85]
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Thank you. What a great discussion. Actually Faber is what is used for the Royal Conservatory classes here in Canada and I have heard great things about it. I actually went to a music store and saw both the Alfred, hal Leonard, and Faber (Adult Piano Adventures) methods. To me Faber was the now preferred method and arguably the most recent one of the three.

However, Hal leonard (The purple cover adult book)seemed less substantive compared to both Faber and Alfred (alfred has 600 pages in 3 volumes). But I think it is more about quality than quantity.

But are we talking about the same hal leaonard course? Hal leonard publishes loads of stuff.
This is the one I mean:
(It is arguably less substantive compared to Alfred- but I heard from my music major friends that Alfred Middle C approach to teaching will actually hinder your progress in the long run.

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#2083052 - 05/15/13 11:28 AM Re: Hal Leonard Adult Beginner Course vs. Alfred Adult Method [Re: pianolover85]
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Originally Posted By: pianolover85
...I heard from my music major friends that Alfred Middle C approach to teaching will actually hinder your progress in the long run.

Can you elaborate on this please? I don't understand what you mean. Thanks!
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#2083137 - 05/15/13 02:51 PM Re: Hal Leonard Adult Beginner Course vs. Alfred Adult Method [Re: pianolover85]
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Well i am not exactly sure about it being bad, but his or her rationale was students get used to the middle C but can not progress into getting to know the whole keyboard, as many songs are not just confined to the middle 12 keys. But this my just be a theoretical and subjective assertion by a single teacher's idiosyncrasies and not represent something agreed upon.

However, I think it Alfred is a solid method. My own teacher uses piano adventures. Deep down i feel all method books are the same, with the overall goal of empowering the student to read and play his or her own repertoire in the long run.

I have adult piano adventures and it is a good approach, as well as the hal leonard adult method.

Warm regards,
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