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#2085564 - 05/20/13 04:36 AM piano mishap, your thoughts
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This was a Justin Bieber concert, a fan ran on stage and the security guard followed.

The first thought that ran through my mind, that wasn't an acoustic piano but a shell with an electric piano inserted. Could an acoustic grand have had that mishap?

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#2085580 - 05/20/13 05:44 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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No way. Not when a concert grand weighs at least 1000 pounds.

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#2085596 - 05/20/13 07:05 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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It looks like it was on a platform and was moved in a way where a leg was not supported. It looks like it's shorter than a six footer.
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#2085599 - 05/20/13 07:15 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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It doesn't have any keys. He was miming. It's not even a piano.

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#2085644 - 05/20/13 09:08 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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I hate it when that happens!
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#2085654 - 05/20/13 09:45 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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LOL

Actually, both Dave Horne & Joe80 could both be right. The video quality was so poor I couldn't be sure about the keyboard.

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#2085667 - 05/20/13 10:15 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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It looks to me like two fairly large guys are involved so that's probably about 400 pounds of weight there. The security guy slams the other guy fairly hard against the piano which should be enough to move almost any piano even one on locked wheels and the piano is on a platform about a foot off the stage and is pushed off the platform which is what causes the piano to overturn. I'd say it's possible even an acoustic grand would done the same thing.

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#2085675 - 05/20/13 10:33 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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seems like the body guards were a big overzealous! It looks like Bieber got trampled in there too.
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#2085748 - 05/20/13 12:58 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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None of the keys moved did they? I would`ve thought they`d`ve almost dropped out . . . Is the truth coming out at last? Acoustic Shell, DP in there . . .Sir Elton is this true?
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#2085751 - 05/20/13 01:02 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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Here's a better view of the mishap. Watch as they stagehands attempt to put the piano back on the platform and the far leg gets detached!


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#2085754 - 05/20/13 01:06 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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Perhaps it DOES have keys, but looking at the underside, with no bracing and no trapwork - I'd say it's not a real piano...!

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#2085760 - 05/20/13 01:10 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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The roadies are handling that thing like it's an empty cardboard box. No way it's a piano.
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#2085766 - 05/20/13 01:22 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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The lid fell off, but I didn't see any strings. Somebody needs to tell Bieber to sing in tune, too. If he keeps that up, one day he'll hear lots of boos. Oh, wait...
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#2085826 - 05/20/13 03:30 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: joe80]
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Clearly not a real piano from the underside view. A baby grand would weigh about 650 pounds and would not be so easy to knock 2 to 3 feet.

Btw, the singing was completely uninterrupted, and the music, also completely uninterrupted. Sounds like the whole thing was lip-sync'd, during a live concert no less; fake piano, fake playing, fake singing, fake music.
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#2085851 - 05/20/13 04:03 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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Moral of the story: Never invite Justin Bieber to your home if you have a piano, or even a fake piano.
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#2085890 - 05/20/13 04:46 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Piano Doug]
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Originally Posted By: Piano Doug
Here's a better view of the mishap. Watch as they stagehands attempt to put the piano back on the platform and the far leg gets detached!




From watching that video I tend to think it's an acoustic piano.
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#2086094 - 05/21/13 02:38 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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Somewhere on youtube there is a Steinway concert grand at the CMAs a few years back where some local experts rocked the piano from the piano board over on it's lyre, then it snapped off taking the other two legs with it.

If you are going to do it that way do not wear company logos and make sure the camera isn't behind you.
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#2086116 - 05/21/13 04:27 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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At one time one used to see quite a lot of mime artists; they would pop up in the foyers of theatres and other public spaces. These days there seem to be fewer of them and I had assumed that this perhaps reflected a lack of interest on the part of their audience (there is, after all, a limit to the number of times that one can enjoy a performance based on the exploration of a non-existant sheet of glass) I now realise that I was mistaken. What has actually happened is that they have all been given employment miming the part of musicians at pop concerts.

In their honour I have written the following short verse:

You want to be rich but have problems with pitch?
Life's better rewarded when it's all pre-recorded!


I would like to add, just in case there are any lawyers combing the site, that my comments do not in any way refer to Mr Justin Bieber, with whose work I am unfamiliar, but to a more general trend in the music industry. I would also like to add that my name is not Jean-Claude and that I do not live in France. I am in fact an unemployed window-cleaner's assistant and live in appalling poverty with my latest wife and my thirteen children in Eastern Albania.

J-C.

Edited for speling erer.


Edited by Jean Claude (05/21/13 05:38 AM)

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#2086129 - 05/21/13 06:26 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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Well! I just looked at the second clip which goes on (even) longer.

Why does he keep grabbing at his wedding tackle like that?

It reminded me of a remark attributed to Nina Hammet "I dont know why they are called private parts, mine aren't."

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#2086224 - 05/21/13 12:10 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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Here's a palette cleanser to watch after watching Beiber's "piano" fall

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT0NygCKPzA
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#2086251 - 05/21/13 01:22 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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+1, it looks a fake piano.

It looks like the fan was just going for a close look and it seems unbelievable how rude and gross that security guard jumps onto both justin and that fan. Did anybody get injured by that behaviour? Is that considered normal??
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#2086385 - 05/21/13 05:40 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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This is SO funny!!
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#2086400 - 05/21/13 06:09 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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Freeze framing through it, there's a flash photo that reveals that it does have keys. But not much else. With the top gone, there's nothing inside that looks like a plate. The guy lifting the back end just before the leg breaks off appears to be using only one hand. Clearly not heavy enough for a real one....
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#2086738 - 05/22/13 11:41 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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the way he keeps grabbing himself it looks like he needs to go potty!
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#2086753 - 05/22/13 11:57 AM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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The reincarnation of Michael Jackson, perhaps?
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#2086949 - 05/22/13 05:24 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Dave Horne]
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There is a well-known, but slightly antiquated, Dutch expression for the kind of trousers the guy is wearing. It is called "drollenvanger", which literally means (please look away): turd-catcher. I guess this is self-explanatory.
Which brings us far away from our concerns for the poor piano. I don't know any male garment that could count as a piano-catcher though -- the piano being real or fake as the case may be.


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#2086962 - 05/22/13 05:43 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: carolinagirl]
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Originally Posted By: carolinagirl
the way he keeps grabbing himself it looks like he needs to go potty!


Frankly, the way he keeps grabbing himself it looks like he has already gone potty.

(I don`t know for certain but I think that this observation may be better understood in the UK than in the US)

J-C.

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#2087067 - 05/22/13 10:33 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Minnesota Marty]
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Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty
The reincarnation of Michael Jackson, perhaps?


God, let's hope not!

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#2087942 - 05/24/13 12:01 PM Re: piano mishap, your thoughts [Re: Jean Claude]
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Originally Posted By: Jean Claude
Originally Posted By: carolinagirl
the way he keeps grabbing himself it looks like he needs to go potty!


Frankly, the way he keeps grabbing himself it looks like he has already gone potty.

(I don`t know for certain but I think that this observation may be better understood in the UK than in the US)

J-C.


Now, that's funny. In the U.S. we say he's gone nuts rather than gone potty, but some of us will get the pun.
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