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#2088965 - 05/26/13 12:16 AM Kawai 800 series - Console - Advice Please
Newbie100 Offline
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Registered: 05/24/13
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Hi there,

I am wondering if someone could assist by telling me about the kawai 800 series. I realise they are long in the tooth however there seems to be a couple around in good order, maintained that are reasonably priced and will give me a few years, I am looking at 6-8 years of use and be done for a beginner young girl. From my research 803 is newer and perhaps a good model from the 80's although I have seen 801 from 70's and wonder if not much fundamental difference is it better to get a 803 since that is younger. Having said that I have seen a 1966 well maintained one with one owner and full maintained history but having said that surely it must not have much life left? I am looking at this due to budget, size of piano and I like accoustic.
Any thoughts are greatly appreciated, Newbie 100

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#2089108 - 05/26/13 10:24 AM Re: Kawai 800 series - Console - Advice Please [Re: Newbie100]
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Find a specific 1-2 that you like best, then hire a tech to answer these questions for you definitively. We're only guessing from here; all things being equal, newer is probably better. Problem is all things are never equal...
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#2089113 - 05/26/13 10:39 AM Re: Kawai 800 series - Console - Advice Please [Re: Newbie100]
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My rule of thumb is that Kawais and Yamahas from the 60's & 70's should be avoided. That is when they were new in the USA and the pianos of today bear no resemblance to the earlier instruments. There's no reason to pump a lot of money into them to try to get them to what they should have been. They just don't get there and they never will. Consider them dead and let them RIP. For both companies, I wouldn't go earlier than the 90's and even that is pushing it unless it is one of the flagship models of grands. The verticals, not so great.

From that era, you would be better off to hunt for a well maintained Baldwin.
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#2089148 - 05/26/13 11:42 AM Re: Kawai 800 series - Console - Advice Please [Re: Newbie100]
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Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty
My rule of thumb is that Kawais and Yamahas from the 60's & 70's should be avoided.

Hi Marty,

As I get older, I’m learning to be swifter to hear/listen and slower to speak, but I disagree with you here…

I’m sure you know much more about pianos than I do, but I have both an older Kawai upright (K48A from 1969) and a Yamaha grand (C7 from 1978). Both are fine instruments, in my view.

In fact, the Yamaha C7 is in such good original condition, I honestly thought it had been rebuilt at some point in the past, until Sally Phillips told me otherwise. My Kawai K48A upright sounds and plays lovely and I like it, a lot. Neither are new pianos, but for what I paid for them, (cost/benefit)and what I get out of them, I think I did good, very good. Oh yea, not that it matters, but both pianos have the real, one-piece ivory key tops.

To the OP, I think your target piano is a good choice. As has been mentioned, I’d have it checked out by a qualified piano tech before purchase.

All the best! smile

Rick

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#2089239 - 05/26/13 02:33 PM Re: Kawai 800 series - Console - Advice Please [Re: Newbie100]
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Hi Rick,

I did put a caveat on the signature grands and the C7 certainly falls into that category.

My reference was to purchasing a used vertical for a student. As you always say, "newer is generally better." In this instance, I think it would be better to keep searching for something newer and better.
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#2089259 - 05/26/13 03:07 PM Re: Kawai 800 series - Console - Advice Please [Re: Newbie100]
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A Kawai 800 might not be bad, even after all these years, but you may not have enough room for a 9' grand.
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