Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
118 registered (accordeur, augustm, andyvn579, agraffe, alerique, 27 invisible), 1832 Guests and 6 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#2091136 - 05/29/13 04:22 AM Re fixing fallboard lettering?
Beemer Offline
Full Member

Registered: 05/26/13
Posts: 481
Loc: Scotland
The six brass letters of my piano's maker name KNIGHT have come off the mahogany fallboard. There is no trace of glue either on the letters or the fall so I'm wondering if the lettering was done onto wet varnish? There is only the slightest sign of where the letters were placed.

Over the years with the lettering being frequently dusted they have loosened and eventually one by one have come off. Unfortunately some were bent in the process and I have flattened them as best I could using an iron.

What would anyone recommend I now do to reinstate them? As the Knight company is no longer in existence I cannot obtain new letters from them. I have tried to find brass letters on the web without success. The originals are only around 1/64th inch thick.

Ian
_________________________
I'm all keyed up

Top
(ad 568) PTG Journal Online
PTG Journal Online
#2091143 - 05/29/13 04:56 AM Re: Re fixing fallboard lettering? [Re: Beemer]
Olek Offline
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 9230
Loc: France
Should be flattened , may be heating could help as hammering would deform the letters.
_________________________
Professional of the profession.
Foo Foo specialist
I wish to add some kind and sensitive phrase but nothing comes to mind.!

Top
#2091146 - 05/29/13 05:05 AM Re: Re fixing fallboard lettering? [Re: Beemer]
pianolive Offline
Full Member

Registered: 09/09/11
Posts: 332
Loc: Europe
You could go to a print screen shop and have them to make new letters.
The original letters were probably added before the varnish was dry, as you say. That is a normal procedure with brass letters.

Top
#2091362 - 05/29/13 12:41 PM Re: Re fixing fallboard lettering? [Re: Beemer]
Beemer Offline
Full Member

Registered: 05/26/13
Posts: 481
Loc: Scotland
My thanks to you both for the advice

Ian
_________________________
I'm all keyed up

Top
#2091452 - 05/29/13 02:50 PM Re: Re fixing fallboard lettering? [Re: Beemer]
Johnkie Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/04/11
Posts: 778
Loc: England
Knights were known to regularly have this problem with their brass names on falls. They usually had the letters all joined up via an underline brass strip. Only today I have tuned a K10 with the same problem .... letters coming loose through being caught on dusters ! They eventually dropped the brass lettering and went over to gold transfers. The problem was that the brass names were merely stuck on rather than inlaid. A good sign writer should be able to replace the name in gold paint for you.
_________________________
Concert Tuner & Technician for the past 49 years in the United Kingdom
and Member of the Pianoforte Tuners' Association (London)
www.jphillipspianoservices.freeindex.co.uk : E-mail jophillips06@aol.com

Top
#2091569 - 05/29/13 06:45 PM Re: Re fixing fallboard lettering? [Re: Beemer]
Olek Offline
9000 Post Club Member

Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 9230
Loc: France
Hello, any success to straighten the letters with a hot iron (at some point the metal may be a little soft)?

I guess that is where CA could be used, once the cavity is cleaned.

Or using lacquer to glue the letters again, plus a new coat on the whole part ( on need spraying equipment, and be lucky not to have a reaction from the original lacquer)
To install decals, the original location have to me made flat, unless the brass letters where glued above the surface which is not usual I guess (?).

A friend have an old Steinway where the logo is made with auto adhesive plastic letters, it hurt his fingers when playing (hard edges) and it is awful. I will install a new logo in lacquer someday (when all the rest of the repairs will be finished)



Edited by Olek (05/29/13 06:47 PM)
_________________________
Professional of the profession.
Foo Foo specialist
I wish to add some kind and sensitive phrase but nothing comes to mind.!

Top
#2093060 - 05/31/13 06:57 PM Re: Re fixing fallboard lettering? [Re: Beemer]
Chloe J. Scott Offline
Full Member

Registered: 08/22/09
Posts: 164
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
As an alternative to repairing or replacing the existing brass lettering, you might want to look into redoing it with a transfer decal instead. Try www.decalsunlimited.com they do have several Knight decals, so one of them should be right.

I'm actually trying to create logo letters from brass for my old Cable. I'll use a decal if that fails.

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
(ad 125) Sweetwater $4700 Giveaway
Sweetwater Giveaway
(ad) Yamaha CP Stage Pianos
Yamaha CP Stage Pianos - Learn More
(ad) Summer Keys
Summer Keys, a Music Adventure in Lubec, Maine
(ads) PD - WNG - MH
Wessell Nickel & Gross
Ad (the Piano Store)
the Piano Store - Restored Steinway Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Speaking of Estonia ...
by BruceD
02/06/16 02:15 PM
What is the piece starting at 7:18?
by pianoloverus
02/06/16 01:41 PM
Really? Just a short story about a beginner
by missbelle
02/06/16 01:26 PM
Summers & Son spinet piano question
by TeeBach
02/06/16 12:38 PM
Need suggestions for good practice book.
by rogerc
02/06/16 12:19 PM
Forum Stats
82,496 Registered Members
44 Forums
170,311 Topics
2,492,807 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2016 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission