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Wow Chris - confusing as heck and surprising new information to me. I thought ECM referred mostly to Keith Jarrett (who's obviously steeped in tradition).

But listening to your examples, I actually thought: I heard this before and liked it. And the group that came to mind was Medeski, Martin and Wood.

Then I did a search of ECM and saw the new term I haven't heard before "Avant-Jazz". So this is like the European version of jazz? No ties to "Black American Music"?

Truly new information to me.


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Don Cherry, Art Ensemble of Chicago, Sam Rivers, plus many more ties to BAM at ECM smile
ECM is the brainchild of its owner and producer Manfred Eicher, you should check out the Jan Garbarek album Officium: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D4LtzZACek
Improvisation together with medieval singing . . .

Conference of The Birds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2uoLafv5c0
Dave Holland, Anthony Braxton, Sam Rivers, Barry Altschul: another great ECM album

Btw; my examples are 1: Gary Peacock album Tales of Another, 2+3: Jan Garbarek-Bobo Stenson Quartet album Witchi-Tai-To

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Originally Posted by chrisbell

Btw; my examples are 1: Gary Peacock album Tales of Another,


So KJ's here too. But his 'Standards' are not ECM style right? Even though they're on ECM Records.


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I think "they've" given up on having a specific style, and just record great music played by great musicians. smile
Maybe it's not so much to do with the music itself, but more to do with the artistic and aesthetic approach that each artist has.

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Had an interesting rehearsal last night. Our bass player couldn't make it so we did a piano/drums duo. I was sceptical about whether I could keep it together doing this, but I actually surprised myself. I think it was a real breakthrough in terms of my progress with time feel. And since my overdubbed recording of Solar, I've been working on walking lines while soloing so I tried it out last night. I feel considerably limited in what I can do, but I can keep it going... so it's a step in the right direction I think. Here's Autumn Leaves:

http://www.box.com/s/j7ay6nr0o3oz5z7tmqlq

I dropped the form once, and I'd like to get some 16th note lines in there, but it is what it is. Comments and criticisms are welcome.

Oh, and I used the electric piano because the bass was a little stronger. Not the greatest ep I know.

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Very neat Scott. The walking bass was very well done.

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Originally Posted by Scott Coletta
Had an interesting rehearsal last night. Our bass player couldn't make it so we did a piano/drums duo. I was sceptical about whether I could keep it together doing this, but I actually surprised myself. I think it was a real breakthrough in terms of my progress with time feel. And since my overdubbed recording of Solar, I've been working on walking lines while soloing so I tried it out last night. I feel considerably limited in what I can do, but I can keep it going... so it's a step in the right direction I think. Here's Autumn Leaves:

http://www.box.com/s/j7ay6nr0o3oz5z7tmqlq

I dropped the form once, and I'd like to get some 16th note lines in there, but it is what it is. Comments and criticisms are welcome.

Oh, and I used the electric piano because the bass was a little stronger. Not the greatest ep I know.


That's pretty good Scott. You have quite a bit of variety in the LH which shows how far in control you are.

When I do this I tend to simplify one or the other. I admit I don't practice it too much since I don't have occasion to use it.

Your RH is certainly sounding very good. Great job!


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Cool Scott!
Nice with a Rhodes. The Fender Rhodes company actually made a Bass keyboard, listen to The Doors: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qRJIBtbc2c Ahh what a song!

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Thanks guys! I'm going to keep at this style for awhile. It's alot of fun.

Chris, that bass rhodes is sweet. I looked to see how much it would cost to get a decent one... about $3,000 dollars! For that much I'd just get a full size rhodes. I've always wanted one of those.

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I've changed my axe. Getting delivery of this next week...

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what's wrong with the Roland ?

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Well listen to the last recordings. I've already changed speakers, mixer. Just doesn't sound good in an amplified mix.



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I am on board with this I just popped in and I am floored by the information
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I have gone through all the pages and caught up
but just know I am here reading and following I think I will start with the mcfartland interview

I used to love hearing those radio broadcasts.


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Welcome maduro, there's a lot of pages to catch up with so feel free to jump in and get your feet wet!

Yeah the Marian McPartland interviews are great!

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Originally Posted by knotty
what's wrong with the Roland ?


It's not red smile

Cool keyboard, jazzwee.

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Originally Posted by jotur
Originally Posted by knotty
what's wrong with the Roland ?


It's not red smile

Cool keyboard, jazzwee.

Cathy


It clashes with our band's black attire (see pic above) smile But I'll have to get used to that.


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Had a jam session tonight. I think I only played one tune I knew. Good experience at new stuff and this recording here is Black Coffee. Interesting tune. All #9 chords. Lovely stuff to get a few seconds before count down smile

Black Coffee
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And then they call this...LOL, I'm developing survival skills.

Sugar
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When I listened to my recordings last night, my thought was I didn't like my articulation at all. Seemed stiff. Gotta focus on that.

Playing with unknown tunes means my mind is elsewhere and it shows, I think, where my subconscious is not handling the situation. On a new tune, my mind is focused on the form so I'm just glaring at the lead sheet, trying not to get lost.

This is good though because it's a supreme test. What I do on an unknown tune will amplify my weakness.

In these I'm not even comping much until the second chorus as I try to figure out the form (because I'm not counting properly often times).

Anyway, I'm surprised I can even solo over these. So it's like reacting to the chords just a bar in advance. Pretty hard to make a solo makes sense. I think some of it was probably just by ear.


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