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#2100201 - 06/10/13 10:01 AM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: Piano*Dad]
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Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad
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In fact, most folks here will be glad if their kid can plod along to Mary Had a Little Lamb.


Yes, but those families are simply getting fleeced …




laugh Thanks for the laugh this Monday morning!!!
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#2100256 - 06/10/13 11:30 AM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: Piano*Dad]
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Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad


Yes, but those families are simply getting fleeced …



Hopefully, their chops will improve over time wink
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#2100391 - 06/10/13 02:52 PM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: AZNpiano]
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Arrrhh, aaarrrrrh!!

Well, if those families stop paying, they'll be .... on the lam.
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#2100847 - 06/11/13 09:38 AM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: Piano*Dad]
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Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad
Arrrhh, aaarrrrrh!!

Well, if those families stop paying, they'll be .... on the lam.



I think you are all being like sheep laughing along with the really baaahd jokes. Sheerly you teachers can do better.
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#2100967 - 06/11/13 02:52 PM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: AZNpiano]
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I remember a speaker at last year's MTAC convention saying that in his branch, it was customary for all teachers to have anonymous, online rate surveys - though I have never heard of this outside of his particular speech. Such a thing would be helpful...

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#2100973 - 06/11/13 03:00 PM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: Opus_Maximus]
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Originally Posted By: Opus_Maximus
I remember a speaker at last year's MTAC convention saying that in his branch, it was customary for all teachers to have anonymous, online rate surveys - though I have never heard of this outside of his particular speech. Such a thing would be helpful...

This was also mentioned several years ago at one of our branch meetings by the presenter, but the survey results that she alluded to are quite alarming. Undercharging is the name of the game. That's why I keep on referring to the fact that there are more than a few teachers who haven't raised their rates since 1964!
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#2101071 - 06/11/13 05:44 PM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: AZNpiano]
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I learned today that a teacher in my branch is charging $40/hr while my rate is $54/hour. Given the training and years of experience, this seems an appropriate range for our locale.

We did the anonymous survey a few years ago and I was truly surprised.
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#2101169 - 06/11/13 08:32 PM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: AZNpiano]
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To me, $40-$54 seems like a pretty narrow range.

When I was shopping for a teacher just over a year ago I ran into a low of $20 (advertised as $10/ half hour) to a high of $120.00 per hour.
I wonder if you had a large enough sample if it would look like a nice normal bell curve.
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#2101357 - 06/12/13 08:07 AM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: malkin]
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Originally Posted By: malkin
To me, $40-$54 seems like a pretty narrow range.

When I was shopping for a teacher just over a year ago I ran into a low of $20 (advertised as $10/ half hour) to a high of $120.00 per hour.
I wonder if you had a large enough sample if it would look like a nice normal bell curve.


I doubt it. I would suspect it would be bimodal - a big peak at the low end, serving the customer for whom price is the main criterion, and another peak at the high end, specializing in conservatory bound and other really serious students, and very little in the middle.
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#2101372 - 06/12/13 08:41 AM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: AZNpiano]
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Mind you, these are teachers who are members of MTAC. They all have degrees or went through CalPlan training. There are other teachers around who post signs like "Piano Lessons $9/hr."
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#2101443 - 06/12/13 11:47 AM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: Minniemay]
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Originally Posted By: Minniemay
There are other teachers around who post signs like "Piano Lessons $9/hr."

That's part of the battle. Can you imagine taking transfers from such places, and the kids' parents want them to do CM?
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#2101478 - 06/12/13 01:39 PM Re: The Art of Raising Fees [Re: AZNpiano]
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Originally Posted By: Minniemay
There are other teachers around who post signs like "Piano Lessons $9/hr."

That's part of the battle. Can you imagine taking transfers from such places, and the kids' parents want them to do CM?


Only after you do CPR on their technique ... grin
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