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I can't speak to what you have "available" in Canada. I'm in Texas and I can just order off Amazon free super saver shipping. If JT is cheap and everything else is prohibitively expensive for parents, so be it.
Yes, stoning is in the Bible (and is ironically going on in Afghanistan as we speak and is very much a contemporary issue) and I'm sure Jesus stepped in at some opportune moment and said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Or something like that. Why do you want to rip Jesus out of the Bible? The whole second half of it is pointless without him. And what does that have to do with price of tea in China?
My point in posting my original statement was not to make lower income Canadians feel bad about their obviously extremely limited piano method choices, but rather to answer the question "Why do some people" -- and I considered myself to be some people who could speak for some people -- "view old piano methods negatively?"
With all that said, I think skipping the songs will be an acceptable solution for us (or anyone).
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Mr. Books, I have read your post, here: _____ please, see below Well, in Canada, most of the modern method books are very _very expensive but JT with all its issues is 78 pages of music or 50 pieces of music for only 8.00 and tax so a very, very good price and there is nothing remotely similar in Canada - and if you know of a similar method book, please tell me and I will look for it. Michael, this simply isn't true. I did a quick ebay and amazon search (Canada engines) and found the prices to be identical to the USA, only adjusted for the exchange rate. I only looked at Piano Town, as that is my method of choice, but it's not expensive at all SEE HERE. _________________________ "Those who dare to teach must never cease to learn." -- Richard Henry Dann Full-time Private Piano Teacher offering Piano Lessons in Olympia, WA. www.mypianoteacher.com Certified by the American College of Musicians; member NGPT, MTNA, WSMTA, OMTA __________________________________________________ ----> Mr. Brooks, I noted Piano Town and I haven't had time to go and get it but hopefully tomorrow. I think the reason I cling to JT is that as an adult who is on a disability and I can't afford a teacher, it was the only series of books that lead to classical music - no matter how badly - that those 5 books of JT - would get me there -- but of course your mention of Piano Town may be helpful and do a better job of getting me there than JT, too, but I just got your suggestion a day two ago. When I go to the music store, I take a small stool so I can slowly look over the piano books particularly method books that might teach me. Daily for almost a year - since I found out about Piano World - I read and copy any suggestion by anyone, of course, teachers, and advanced players of pieces I should be learning, and I also use the search engine here searching teachers or advanced player's names for any posts that anyone in the past have posted that may help me with my education and advice and direction of learning to play the piano. And, I do appreciate everyones comments. And I should add, for the record, that I have all the following series of books: Michael Aaron piano course grade 1 to 5 John Thompson books 1 to 5 John w. Schaum piano course Books A to H Suzuki piano school New International Edition volumes 1 to 7 The Russian School of Piano Play - I think there are 3 or 4 books in total. the Leila Fletcher piano course books 1 to 6 Piano Town - l get whatever Piano Town books that exist at the music store I will also get whatever books anyone mentions to get me to a level of play that enables to read basic classical music and then grown from there learning more challenging pieces.
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I googled "IMSLP piano method" and found there are quite a number of public domain methods available for free download.
So if cost were your only criterion, that would be an option.
I have no idea how you could evaluate the quality of any of them without a good teacher's input.
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Michael, I misunderstood. I thought you were a teacher. None of the methods you mention, especially Piano Town, are suitable for self-teaching. Piano Town assumes that you, as a teacher, already understand the basics of pedagogy and are a competent pianist and thus can use the method as a basis for teaching core concepts and techniques.
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John, a small note about your E-Bay link. When I click on it from Canada, it cites a $25.00 shipping charge, because even though it's a Canadian link, it's being shipped from the US. I have gotten a few books for my studies during my time on PianoWorld. It is in fact true that books are more expensive in Canada. The exception has been with places such as your link, at which point there is always a very high shipping cost. It is cheaper to buy locally, even if the book is $10.00 more, because of shipping charges. I also prefer to support Canadian business and local business. In fact, if we buy locally from local music stores supporting the arts, we also keep them alive.
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...It is in fact true that books are more expensive in Canada. ... But you won't be paying $6000 deductible on your health care next year.
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Malkin, I'm not comparing countries. There is a question about procuring books. If E-Bay shipments incur a $25.00 shipment cost, then they are no longer cheaper. It's giving information, nothing more.
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I understood you, keystring. Your posts are always clearly and carefully written.
My point was to continue my campaign to use every possible opportunity to complain about the inequity and irrationality of health care in the US.
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Malkin, this is neither the time nor the place so I suggest you take your campaign somewhere besides Piano World. I, too, have some very strong opinions on this subject but you'll not learn them here.
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John, a small note about your E-Bay link. When I click on it from Canada, it cites a $25.00 shipping charge, because even though it's a Canadian link, it's being shipped from the US. I have gotten a few books for my studies during my time on PianoWorld. It is in fact true that books are more expensive in Canada. The exception has been with places such as your link, at which point there is always a very high shipping cost. It is cheaper to buy locally, even if the book is $10.00 more, because of shipping charges. I also prefer to support Canadian business and local business. In fact, if we buy locally from local music stores supporting the arts, we also keep them alive. You are correct: ebay is deceptive at best. It clearly is ebay Canada, and it clearly says "free shipping" until you page down and read the fine print.
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John, when I press quote to see your original link, the "free shipping" is there: www.ebay.ca/itm/Kjos-Piano-Town-Level-1-4-Book-Set-MP101-111-121-131-FREE-SHIPPING-But when I go to the site, it isn't. The systems are very sophisticated these days, so that you may see something different than I do because of where you are. The other day I looked up desks because of something I needed to learn in my work. Now when I come to PW and some other sites, I am regaled with offers of desks in the sidebar, because so much has been tracked. Our IP addresses reveal our location (country) and I can see that going through some kind of software the same way.
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The other day I looked up desks because of something I needed to learn in my work. Now when I come to PW and some other sites, I am regaled with offers of desks in the sidebar, because so much has been tracked. Our IP addresses reveal our location (country) and I can see that going through some kind of software the same way. Wow, that's scarey. I'm really glad I haven't been to one of those adult type sites. Who knows what the sidebar would look like?
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keystring and others - with google, you can avoid some of this by going to the preferences and drilling down. Tell it not to track your google inquiries.
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...It is in fact true that books are more expensive in Canada. ... But you won't be paying $6000 deductible on your health care next year. Yes they will, we get it taxed out of us Oops, just noticed the dates... I necro'd this thread... Sorry
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...It is in fact true that books are more expensive in Canada. ... But you won't be paying $6000 deductible on your health care next year. Yes they will, we get it taxed out of us Oops, just noticed the dates... I necro'd this thread... Sorry That's why there is a delete option. Then you could unnecro.
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