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#2100761 - 06/11/13 03:00 AM Yamaha C series pianos with "F" before the serial number
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Does anyone here know where the Yamaha C series pianos with the serial number preceded by "F" were built? I know the "T" means it was built in Thomaston, Georgia and the "U" means it was made in South Haven, Michigan, but for a short time in the 90s there were some very nice C series pianos made with "F" preceding the serial number. The Yamaha webpage doesn't even mention them! I recently found a C3 with the serial number F 547XXXX (I won't give the real number as the current owner may not appreciate that). And I found a C5 which also started with F. Both serial numbers checked out on the Yamaha page as made for the U.S. market, so they are not "gray-market," but I cannot find out any info about them! I have noticed that the "T" and "U" builds are followed by 6 digit serial numbers and the "F" is followed by a 7 digit number.

Anybody know? It's driving me crazy!

Thanks,

Mike
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#2100808 - 06/11/13 06:03 AM Re: Yamaha C series pianos with "F" before the serial number [Re: Gesualdo]
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I have a 1995 G2 that starts with F. It's made in Hamamatsu, Japan. Not sure if that helps.

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#2100846 - 06/11/13 09:33 AM Re: Yamaha C series pianos with "F" before the serial number [Re: Gesualdo]
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I have an older (1978) Yamaha C7 and it has the "B" in the serial number. I think it has to do with the particular model C because they changed certain things from year to year as they tried to improve the design. This is what I've read before...

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#2100862 - 06/11/13 10:22 AM Re: Yamaha C series pianos with "F" before the serial number [Re: Gesualdo]
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Most likely Yamaha updated or changed something on the piano from a previous version of the same piano. My piano has a serial starting with D. A,B,C,D,E,F, etc all exist as far as I know, but at some stage Yamaha eliminated the letter from the serial number, when exactly I am not sure.

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#2100898 - 06/11/13 12:13 PM Re: Yamaha C series pianos with "F" before the serial number [Re: Gesualdo]
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All Yamaha C grands are built in Japan. The letter in front designates a modification in the design. Mostly they are minor, but occasionally they make a big deal out of them. The current models have an X in front of the serial number, and they are marketing them as the C3X, for example.
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#2100904 - 06/11/13 12:26 PM Re: Yamaha C series pianos with "F" before the serial number [Re: Gesualdo]
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#2101010 - 06/11/13 03:58 PM Re: Yamaha C series pianos with "F" before the serial number [Re: Gesualdo]
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Ah Ha! I got the answer from Yamaha. It's pretty interesting. The letter "F" in the C series was a secondary series number, it has nothing to do with location of build. In fact, NO Yamaha grands were ever built in the U.S. according to the Yamaha tech I talked to. Only uprights and consoles were made in GA and MI. The C3 has always been made in japan and they added the "F" in 1991-1994 to designate a design change which made the instrument far warmer than previous models. They dropped the "F" in 1995 but kept the design changes.

The instrument I am interested in buying was made in 1997, it's a C3 PE (no "F"). It has apparently been well maintained and is in the same geographic region I live in (same climate). The asking price is $14,900. I think that's a decent price. Any opinions?

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Mike
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#2102613 - 06/14/13 07:43 PM Re: Yamaha C series pianos with "F" before the serial number [Re: Gesualdo]
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I paid $9000 earlier in the year for a C3 F (made in 1992) with virtually no usage, but that was a really good price. $14,900 sounds high to me. If I were you, I'd look for some wiggle room in the price.
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