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#2103855 - 06/17/13 01:36 PM Re: Perfect pitch may not be so 'perfect' [Re: OperaTenor]
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I conducted the Mag at 440, but much prefer to listen to it at 415. It seems more calm. Kudos to you for singing it at 440.

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#2103877 - 06/17/13 02:36 PM Re: Perfect pitch may not be so 'perfect' [Re: bkw58]
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Originally Posted By: bkw58
...To my ear anything set below A435 makes even a C major performance seem like a dirge.


One does, indeed, use hyperbole here at his own peril.
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#2104132 - 06/17/13 11:43 PM Re: Perfect pitch may not be so 'perfect' [Re: Withindale]
Gary Fowler Offline
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rxd, the rest of the story is, this gal(who is blind and autistic), tunes pianos for The University of Delaware.
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#2104170 - 06/18/13 01:25 AM Re: Perfect pitch may not be so 'perfect' [Re: Gary Fowler]
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Originally Posted By: Gary Fowler
rxd, the rest of the story is, this gal(who is blind and autistic), tunes pianos for The University of Delaware.


Thanks, Gary but what intrigues me is, did she ever tune a whole piano using this highly accurate pitch memory and what were the results?, is she able to tune to 442 when required with no problems?, what method does she tune by now.... So many questions.
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#2104186 - 06/18/13 02:23 AM Re: Perfect pitch may not be so 'perfect' [Re: bkw58]
Olek Offline
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Originally Posted By: bkw58
Originally Posted By: bkw58
...To my ear anything set below A435 makes even a C major performance seem like a dirge.


One does, indeed, use hyperbole here at his own peril.


Tuning an instrument intended for 440 half step lower is real nonsense as the tone quality is lost with more unfocused pitches in mediums, loss of energy, etc.

If the instrument is intended to be tuned at 415 that is a different story.
I guess the tone quality may be more disturbing than the pitch, but it may be difficult for someone that is setup on 440 to have to think half a step lower.
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#2105102 - 06/19/13 10:14 PM Re: Perfect pitch may not be so 'perfect' [Re: Withindale]
Gary Fowler Offline
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rxd,

The answer is NO! I made her use a tuning fork as a pitch reference. I taught her to set a termperment the right way, the same way I was taught. (tuning by fouths and fifths, and checking with thirds and sixths along the way). I am under no illusion that she will ever be a full service technician.(I doubt she would be capable of diagnosing a sticking key, much less replace a broken middle C string), but she is a darn good tuner!
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