Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician
SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
Ad (Piano Sing)
How to Make Your Piano Sing
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
68 registered (AZ_Astro, ando, 18 invisible), 1219 Guests and 11 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Topic Options
#2103920 - 06/17/13 03:52 PM Question about piano action (jack and hammer related)
wilsocn Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 11/04/09
Posts: 12
I recently bought a Samick 108P on Craigslist that is around 20 years old. It appears to be in great shape inside and out but, it does need a good once over since it has only been a piece of furniture for a lot of years.

I am used to playing a full size weighted keyboard so I don't have any experience with the action on an actual acoustic piano. The issue is with the jack and hammer butt. If I press the keys slowly and with light pressure I can feel the moment when the jack moves in and out of position both when the key is pressed and depressed. It isn't too noticeable but you can definitely feel it if you are paying attention. Hopefully I am using the correct terms, I am using an online diagram to ID these parts.

Should I ever be able to feel this and if not, what is the usual remedy? A technician is coming Thursday so right now I am just trying to learn what I can so I have an idea of what type of work might need to be done when he gets here.

Thanks


Edited by wilsocn (06/17/13 03:54 PM)

Top
(ad PTG 757) The Value of PTG Membership
The Value of a PTG Membership
#2103922 - 06/17/13 03:58 PM Re: Question about piano action (jack and hammer related) [Re: wilsocn]
Jim Dunleavy Online   content
Full Member

Registered: 02/27/05
Posts: 229
Loc: The Original Washington (UK)
The short answer is yes - I believe that is one of the defining features of real piano touch.
_________________________
Jim (amateur musician and composer..and piano tinkerer).

Restoration Project Videos

Top
#2103926 - 06/17/13 04:06 PM Re: Question about piano action (jack and hammer related) [Re: wilsocn]
accordeur Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1224
Loc: Québec, Canada
Feeling when the jack is escaping is normal, but you might be experiencing excessive lost motion, which would be normal if the piano has not been regulated in 20 years. Your tuner tech should be able to take care of that.
_________________________
Jean Poulin

Musician, Tuner and Technician

www.actionpiano.ca

Top
#2104038 - 06/17/13 08:31 PM Re: Question about piano action (jack and hammer related) [Re: wilsocn]
daniokeeper Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 1104
Loc: PA
It is normal to feel this.

But, do ask your tech about it.

Since this is a used, 20 year old piano, it is "possible" that the action was heavily used and now the butt leathers are deformed. Your tech can check for this for you.

If the action is in good shape, lubricating the butt leathers with a little Teflon powder can lessen the friction for you and make the action more controllable... IF the action is in good regulation.
_________________________
Joe Gumbosky
Piano Tuning & Repair
www.tinyurl.com/tunerjoe
(semi-retired)

Top
#2104063 - 06/17/13 09:23 PM Re: Question about piano action (jack and hammer related) [Re: wilsocn]
wilsocn Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 11/04/09
Posts: 12
Thanks for the help, guys. I am making a list of all the things that I think need attention and I will let the tech decide if these things are normal or not. On some of the keys this 'problem' is more apparent and it almost feels like there is a catch when the key is pressed so hopefully some sort of adjustment will take care of it.

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
Christmas Header
- > Gift Ideas for Music Lovers < -
From PianoSupplies.com a division of Piano World.
-------------------
The December Free Piano Newsletter
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Interesting books about the piano, pianists, piano history, biographies, memoirs and more!
(ad) Yamaha CP Music Rest Promo
Yamaha CP Music Rest Promo
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Seiler Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
(ad) Piano Music Sale - Dover Publications
Piano Music Sale
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
New Topics - Multiple Forums
A new clip of Don Pullen in action
by rintincop
12/17/14 11:03 PM
Learn a Song in 7 minutes: Carol of the Bells
by Hugh Sung
12/17/14 10:11 PM
December 2014 Holiday Piano Bar
by piano_primo_1
12/17/14 06:14 PM
The Language of Taste - Pianos, Wine ... and Birds
by PNO40
12/17/14 05:16 PM
Good Practice Amp for Roland FP7F?
by TheloniousPunk
12/17/14 04:24 PM
Forum Stats
77333 Members
42 Forums
159946 Topics
2348965 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Gift Ideas for Music Lovers!
Find the Perfect Gift for the Music Lovers on your List!
Visit our online store today.

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission