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#2104118 - 06/17/13 11:20 PM Web Site Newbie
Palmpirate Offline
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Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 226
Loc: B.C.Canada
This is my thinking as a result of entering this domain. Progress will be made. Writing is another of my passions so forgive my 'wordiness' but it goes with that part of my character that 'hides' from the public eye. Music is another way to communicate but as yet not so well practised. I know that some of you will know what I'm writing about!

Web Site Newbie.

I've gotten used to using e-mails. That's a given today.
Even Facebook, once you know what limits you are comfortable with. My use is minimal even though I have lots of 'friends'.
I've done quite a few on-line classes which have been wonderful experiences though contacts are usually shed after the last session.
This Piano World web site is a different experience yet again.

I've learned a few things browsing around for myself.
Conversations, threads, flow in a time-line of submission sequence and if I comment on one, perhaps done way-back-when, it gets posted up on the newest page, not following the one I'm responding to.
There can be quite a lot of comments in between.
I shall have to learn how to get quotes out of postings if I find I'm late in responding.
Or - comment straight away once a posting is up.
So I tried getting e-mail notifications when there is a new submission, but then when I checked my email box, there were 60+ new notes!
Even as I tried to read and reply to the ones that I wanted to respond to, new ones kept coming in! This is a very busy web site! I quickly went and unchecked the notification box!

I see that I can have a 'watch list' in MyStuff. This must be the way to go. And before long I'm sure to get a sense of who is who and what their different specialties are.
Everyone is so supportive and willing to share their knowledge. That is so heartwarming.

As yet I haven't really explored the different recital pages. There seem to be quite a few different ones. I get a feeling that this is the backbone of Piano World, it's raison d'être.

I happened upon the Quarterly recitals and was mightily impressed. Not just with the mere number of submissions, but the range of abilities, and the responses.
There is an incredible outpouring of support and of critique for those asking for some feedback. Detailed pointers of particular ways notes are played, from people who know what they are talking about - like a private little master class which we on-liners can share.
I found your spread sheet for responses and again was amazed at how well everything is organized. One day maybe I'll feel able to actually use it! So far I've only made the random response to the random pieces I've listened to because I'm sure the people must like to know that they are listened to.

I was also surprised at the different way people posted their stuff. There's youtube, box, and a lot of others I was totally unaware of out there in the web. And then there's anything from iphone recordings to midi files and practically professional recordings.
It means as soon as I discover a way to record myself and get up courage to post it, then I'm good to go and needn't be intimidated by the technology. That will be on the Ecco Fatto Cafe thread of course! I read a long thread that tells how frustrating it can be for those of us who are Hi-Tec Challenged!

The other special recitals, themes, and different composers pieces are incredible.
I have enjoyed just randomly picking something to listen to and have started a list of things I'd like to play too. It also is a great way to find out how some pieces do sound from people I've kind of know rather than just search anonymous youtube submissions.

As a web site newbie admitting to being over 60, who knows no-one else who plays piano, other than my teacher, I am beginning to feel very comfortable with an on-line presence in an on-line piano playing community. From the odd video submitted none of you have blue skin so this virtual world is not so strange after all!
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#2104163 - 06/18/13 01:18 AM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
Bobpickle Offline

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Registered: 05/24/12
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Unless I find myself with a lot of spare time, I generally don't visit the other forums of the website (piano forum, pianist corner, composer's lounge, etc.) as there's just too much to read! With my ability level and interests, this forum is best for me anyways.

Welcome to the forum. Read to your fullest and absorb all that you're able.

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#2104181 - 06/18/13 02:06 AM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
Michael_99 Offline
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Registered: 07/28/12
Posts: 935
Loc: Canada Alberta
Palmpirate, I have read your post, here:

This is my thinking as a result of entering this domain. Progress will be made. Writing is another of my passions so forgive my 'wordiness' but it goes with that part of my character that 'hides' from the public eye. Music is another way to communicate but as yet not so well practised. I know that some of you will know what I'm writing about!

Web Site Newbie.

I've gotten used to using e-mails. That's a given today.
Even Facebook, once you know what limits you are comfortable with. My use is minimal even though I have lots of 'friends'.
I've done quite a few on-line classes which have been wonderful experiences though contacts are usually shed after the last session.
This Piano World web site is a different experience yet again.

I've learned a few things browsing around for myself.
Conversations, threads, flow in a time-line of submission sequence and if I comment on one, perhaps done way-back-when, it gets posted up on the newest page, not following the one I'm responding to.
There can be quite a lot of comments in between.
I shall have to learn how to get quotes out of postings if I find I'm late in responding.
Or - comment straight away once a posting is up.
So I tried getting e-mail notifications when there is a new submission, but then when I checked my email box, there were 60+ new notes!
Even as I tried to read and reply to the ones that I wanted to respond to, new ones kept coming in! This is a very busy web site! I quickly went and unchecked the notification box!

I see that I can have a 'watch list' in MyStuff. This must be the way to go. And before long I'm sure to get a sense of who is who and what their different specialties are.
Everyone is so supportive and willing to share their knowledge. That is so heartwarming.

As yet I haven't really explored the different recital pages. There seem to be quite a few different ones. I get a feeling that this is the backbone of Piano World, it's raison d'être.

I happened upon the Quarterly recitals and was mightily impressed. Not just with the mere number of submissions, but the range of abilities, and the responses.
There is an incredible outpouring of support and of critique for those asking for some feedback. Detailed pointers of particular ways notes are played, from people who know what they are talking about - like a private little master class which we on-liners can share.
I found your spread sheet for responses and again was amazed at how well everything is organized. One day maybe I'll feel able to actually use it! So far I've only made the random response to the random pieces I've listened to because I'm sure the people must like to know that they are listened to.

I was also surprised at the different way people posted their stuff. There's youtube, box, and a lot of others I was totally unaware of out there in the web. And then there's anything from iphone recordings to midi files and practically professional recordings.
It means as soon as I discover a way to record myself and get up courage to post it, then I'm good to go and needn't be intimidated by the technology. That will be on the Ecco Fatto Cafe thread of course! I read a long thread that tells how frustrating it can be for those of us who are Hi-Tec Challenged!

The other special recitals, themes, and different composers pieces are incredible.
I have enjoyed just randomly picking something to listen to and have started a list of things I'd like to play too. It also is a great way to find out how some pieces do sound from people I've kind of know rather than just search anonymous youtube submissions.

As a web site newbie admitting to being over 60, who knows no-one else who plays piano, other than my teacher, I am beginning to feel very comfortable with an on-line presence in an on-line piano playing community. From the odd video submitted none of you have blue skin so this virtual world is not so strange after all!

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Welcome.

Well, you are doing very well as a Newbie. I have been here about a year. I have learned a lot from people and their awesome posts full of helpful information for a person playing the piano for 2 years. This is my only connection to the internet - except reading online world news and this is my only connection to the piano world except looking for piano music/material at a local music store.

So reading your post, filled my brain with lots of information about this site that I didn't know existed.

But learning to play the piano and reading the posts, keeps me busy.

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#2104240 - 06/18/13 07:46 AM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
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Registered: 04/18/09
Posts: 2611
Loc: *sigh* Salt Lake City
Originally Posted By: Palmpirate

I shall have to learn how to get quotes out of postings...


You can certainly learn this! Look for the button that says "Quote" below a reply. When you click it, the whole post will appear in a reply box. You can edit out what you don't want to include (as I have done above.

Just make sure to keep brackets around the word quote at the beginning and /quote at the end.
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#2104244 - 06/18/13 08:12 AM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
UK Paul UK Offline
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Loc: Berkshire, England
I dont know anyone else who plays... apart from my tutors son.

Welcome aboard.
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#2104259 - 06/18/13 08:56 AM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
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Registered: 03/21/13
Posts: 1648
Loc: Australia
I like to keeps my posts short lol
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#2104268 - 06/18/13 09:12 AM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
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Registered: 03/01/10
Posts: 5131
Loc: Italy
You are so right -there is a wealth of knowledge and experience here, and a desire to share and help. What super combinations!

I too rarely stray out of the ABF forum - I find the folks in the Pianist Corner are too aggressive for my taste (not always, but a great deal of the time!) -- the Teacher's forum is interesting.

Our Quarterly recitals - and various others, - give many of us a chance to perform "publicly". An opportunity not always available in real life.

It is amazing how well you can get to know some of the folks you read regularly - and it is great fun to see folks who started playing at about the same year (or age) as you did and share your progress.

There are also some LIVE get togethers with members meeting up for piano parties. In the past year there have been 2-3 in Colorado and one in Arizona. Next month there's the first PW European Piano Party taking place in Brussels.

This forum just adds a whole new dimension of fun to the great joys we have playing piano!
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#2104331 - 06/18/13 11:38 AM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: malkin]
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Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 226
Loc: B.C.Canada
Originally Posted By: malkin
Originally Posted By: Palmpirate

I shall have to learn how to get quotes out of postings...


You can certainly learn this!



LIKE THAT!

Thanks malkin, That's so easy. It's like when my boys had to show me the power button when I claimed my computer wouldn't work!
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#2104351 - 06/18/13 12:01 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: casinitaly]
Palmpirate Offline
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Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 226
Loc: B.C.Canada
Originally Posted By: casinitaly


and a desire to share and help. What super combinations!

I too rarely stray out of the ABF forum

Our Quarterly recitals - and various others, -An opportunity not always available in real life.

It is amazing how well you can get to know some of the folks you read regularly

There are also some LIVE
2-3 in Colorado

This forum just adds a whole new dimension


I am 'integrating ' my latest skill learned from malkin here with the 'quotes' casinitaly.

For me I know there is no where else I'll play except at home so this will be interesting once I do submit something!

I have two sons in Boulder and I am there now just for a short visit. It might be fun to keep in contact with the CO folks if they get together again.

ABF seems to be where I find people talking about things I readily relate to so feel comfortable here. Looking at the yearly questionnaire I think I ' fit' in the profile of the majority! Older, returning, and a bit apprehensive of my skills alongside so many much more experienced and younger starlets. But as you say, their desire to help and willingness to share is a super combination.

I shall keep exploring and getting to know this new dimension in my life!.


Edited by Palmpirate (06/18/13 12:03 PM)
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#2104507 - 06/18/13 04:48 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: earlofmar]
Palmpirate Offline
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Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 226
Loc: B.C.Canada
Earlofmar, I recognize your signature about endurance sport and piano playing! Your posts may be short but sweet and always appreciated I'm sure. Isn't it great that there's no such thing as snail mail for far away places on the Internet.
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#2104514 - 06/18/13 04:59 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: UK Paul UK]
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Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 226
Loc: B.C.Canada
UKPaulUK . You're the one with Royal Connections- word gets around! What a thrill and congrats to her.
It is great to find other phantom pianists out there. It's a lonely undertaking and sometimes hard to think why I bother when practise gets tough or progress slow.
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#2104537 - 06/18/13 05:24 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Michael_99]
Palmpirate Offline
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Registered: 01/31/13
Posts: 226
Loc: B.C.Canada
Originally Posted By: Michael_99
Palmpirate,

So reading your post, filled my brain with lots of information about this site that I didn't know existed.

But learning to play the piano and reading the posts, keeps me busy.



I find i have to watch the time once i get on this site! I find it full of interesting aspects to piano and music in general. Already I have expanded my interest a little discovering what a 'walking bass line' is in jazz. I'd never have looked it up unless i'd read something about it in the non-classical thread.

I think that amongst your various talents must be a poet. I've written a lot in my lifetime and love that you use that medium to express your thoughts! Your past posts will make a lovely anthology should you ever go in that direction!
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#2104539 - 06/18/13 05:26 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
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Registered: 10/08/09
Posts: 1751
Loc: south florida
Originally Posted By: Palmpirate
I am 'integrating ' my latest skill learned from malkin here with the 'quotes' casinitaly.


Now you can refine that new skill.

If you only want to quote a small part of someones post, but want the quote identified ala the "originally posted by SoandSo" banner, then here's what you do.

1 - copy the words or phrase(s) you want to quote
2 - go to a full screen reply box and paste that in.
3 - using the cursor, highlight what you've just pasted in and then click on the quotation mark icon above the reply box ( " next to #). Now your phrase will have the word quote in brackets at the start and /unquote in brackets at the end.
4 - Last step. Go to the word quote and change it to quote=SoAndSoPoster , keeping it in the brackets.

Bingo, you should get something like

Originally Posted By: SoAndSoPoster
here's my quoted phrase


much easier than it sounds, just try it.


Edited by JimF (06/18/13 05:29 PM)
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#2104545 - 06/18/13 05:46 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Bobpickle]
Palmpirate Offline
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Loc: B.C.Canada
Originally Posted By: Bobpickle
.......there's just too much to read!

Welcome .......


Thank you Bobpickle. I know what you mean but i find it all so fascinating that people of such a diverse collection gravitate here and share a common interest. From all over the globe there is encouragement and enthusiasm for those amongst us taking the tiniest of babysteps on this shared journey.
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#2104553 - 06/18/13 05:58 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: JimF]
Palmpirate Offline
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Loc: B.C.Canada
Originally Posted By: JimF

Now you can refine that new skill.


If this works then Thanks Jim F. I'll have to persevere a bit. First time around took a while!


Edited by Palmpirate (06/18/13 05:58 PM)
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#2104667 - 06/18/13 11:24 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
malkin Offline
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Loc: *sigh* Salt Lake City
Way to go Palmpirate!
What an excellent student you are!
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#2104725 - 06/19/13 03:10 AM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
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Posts: 178
Loc: South Africa
Originally Posted By: Palmpirate
Thanks malkin, That's so easy. It's like when my boys had to show me the power button when I claimed my computer wouldn't work!


Haha...that was good.

Welcome!
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#2104906 - 06/19/13 02:19 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
JimF Offline
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Loc: south florida
Originally Posted By: Palmpirate
Originally Posted By: JimF

Now you can refine that new skill.


If this works then Thanks Jim F. I'll have to persevere a bit. First time around took a while!


Bingo. Well done.
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#2105004 - 06/19/13 06:55 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: floydthebarber71]
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Originally Posted By: floydthebarber71

Haha...that was good.

Welcome!


thanks,Floydthebarber71,they thought it was funny too!
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#2105013 - 06/19/13 07:13 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: malkin]
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Malkin, the compliment is returned!
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#2105016 - 06/19/13 07:20 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: JimF]
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Originally Posted By: JimFPoster
Bingo. Well done
.

Ok Im getting the hang of this - couldnt have done it without the help from you and malkin.
Thanks a million.
Now I wish piano practice would work as easily!
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#2105020 - 06/19/13 07:35 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
malkin Offline
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Originally Posted By: Palmpirate
...Now I wish piano practice would work as easily!


No kidding!
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#2105054 - 06/19/13 08:35 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
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Registered: 05/24/12
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Originally Posted By: Palmpirate
Now I wish piano practice would work as easily!


It certainly can. You just need to learn how to best go about it wink

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#2105267 - 06/20/13 09:46 AM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Bobpickle]
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Originally Posted By: bobpicklePoster
It certainly can. You just need to learn how to best go about it



Well, I certainly try and it really helps to have a good teacher to give you pointers. It's rather like learning the shortcuts on a computer keyboard. It helps a lot to ease frustrations if you know them.

My husband, who is 51 weeks older; yes, everyone of them counts; than me, recently now he's retired, changed from pc to mac. For the first time ever I am able to show him computer things since I never learned pc stuff. A simple question - How to I quite Mail? it's stuck! has me leaning over his shoulder and hitting the 'apple cmd key' along with q, and it's gone - ta da!

Similarly, my current piano teacher amazes me with little tricks about performance that help sooo much.

Just the way he rolled a split chord in the left hand , just a bit different than I was doing. Don't ask me to explain, I had to see him do it to understand.
His seeing how I did not release keys quick enough even in legato sequences causing a bit too much harmonic overlap of sound for just that little bit longer than needed. He was watching the keys under my hand as they raised back up and could see they 'overlapped' - something I couldn't physically do but once aware could 'hear' it.
I always am afraid of overreaching octaves because I have a big hand - nice for piano players as a rule. So he told me to hit each once twice as I practise to reinforce the reach and feel. What a simple but effective fix!

So, Yes, I certainly can, as you say have piano practise work as easily as a computer fix , it's the 'leaning how best to go about it' bit that is the challenge.
And it is because the piano is a passion of mine that I try.

Another analogy would be working with photographs, a hobby of mine but not in the same league as piano - that's driven by a long held desire to be able to do well. I can manage simple crops and enhancements and am quite content with that. My son who is an artist uses photoshop to produce many of the effects in his work. He is at the cutting edge of his field and very successful - take a look - www.phillewisart.com. Yes, I too could learn how to do that but I know my limitations!
Likewise with piano, even though I am intent on improving my technique I know I somehow will never be Glen Gould playing Bach , or even attempt Chopin's Etudes, but the satisfaction I get from trying the best I can to play this wonderful instrument is immeasurable.
I envy those who are younger and will be able to journey further along this path and wish them every success. I hope also to contribute my encouragement to others on this web site who are giving themselves the chance to try.
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#2105433 - 06/20/13 05:00 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
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Originally Posted By: Palmpirate
Likewise with piano, even though I am intent on improving my technique I know I somehow will never be Glen Gould playing Bach , or even attempt Chopin's Etudes


Another piece of advice is to ditch this attitude.
Originally Posted By: Henry Ford
Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right.


If you want to accomplish anything at the piano, you have to first convince yourself that you can.

Here's some sagely advice:

Originally Posted By: Bernhard
Originally Posted By: db05
What if I am a walking mistake, and I am trying to do the impossible? My study and practice has led me again and again to this conclusion. How do I change that?

Let me reassure you.

Yes, you are a walking mistake.

Yes, you are trying to do the impossible.

And no, you cannot change that.

This is called the human condition and it holds true for every and each human being.

No one knows anything.

No one can do anything right.

Yes, whatever your aim you will fail miserably.

But…

Even though you will most certainly fail, you will get pretty close to success. Maddeningly so. Therefore pay close attention to the next sentence, for everything hinges on it.

Always establish the highest aim you can possibly think of. Always go after the most impossible dream. Surely you will fail to achieve it, but you will get pretty close to it. (Personally, I like perfection to be my aim)

Choose a mediocre aim, a low dream you may believe is in your power to achieve, and guess what? You will fail miserably. But what you will get is a far inferior result than what you would get if you had aimed high and failed high as well.

If you now direct your practice and study according to this new guideline, your study and practice will convince you of the correctness of this new conclusion.

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#2105436 - 06/20/13 05:05 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Bobpickle]
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Originally Posted By: Bobpickle
Originally Posted By: Palmpirate
Likewise with piano, even though I am intent on improving my technique I know I somehow will never be Glen Gould playing Bach , or even attempt Chopin's Etudes


Another piece of advice is to ditch this attitude.
Originally Posted By: Henry Ford
Whether you believe you can do a thing or not, you are right.


If you want to accomplish anything at the piano, you have to first convince yourself that you can.

Here's some sagely advice:

Originally Posted By: Bernhard
Originally Posted By: db05
What if I am a walking mistake, and I am trying to do the impossible? My study and practice has led me again and again to this conclusion. How do I change that?

Let me reassure you.

Yes, you are a walking mistake.

Yes, you are trying to do the impossible.

And no, you cannot change that.

This is called the human condition and it holds true for every and each human being.

No one knows anything.

No one can do anything right.

Yes, whatever your aim you will fail miserably.

But…

Even though you will most certainly fail, you will get pretty close to success. Maddeningly so. Therefore pay close attention to the next sentence, for everything hinges on it.

Always establish the highest aim you can possibly think of. Always go after the most impossible dream. Surely you will fail to achieve it, but you will get pretty close to it. (Personally, I like perfection to be my aim)

Choose a mediocre aim, a low dream you may believe is in your power to achieve, and guess what? You will fail miserably. But what you will get is a far inferior result than what you would get if you had aimed high and failed high as well.

If you now direct your practice and study according to this new guideline, your study and practice will convince you of the correctness of this new conclusion.



Thas exactly what i needed to read tonight bob :-)
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#2105445 - 06/20/13 05:32 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Palmpirate]
UK Paul UK Offline
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Originally Posted By: Palmpirate
UKPaulUK . You're the one with Royal Connections- word gets around! What a thrill and congrats to her.
It is great to find other phantom pianists out there. It's a lonely undertaking and sometimes hard to think why I bother when practise gets tough or progress slow.


Lol, were still getting used to it all.... Sue is taking it all in her stride bless her.

I would say practice has hit a bit of a wall for me lately. I have had some pieces my tutor and i have agreed to put aside...

Chopin pollonaise in gminor.... spent a good 4 months but not able to polish..

Burgmuller opus 100 no4 been trying to get thirds working for months ...

Burg opus 100 no6 for some reason, my coordination cant get the simultanious runs right....


Very frustrating getting stuck after investing so much time on my pieces....

I need to focus on what i gain from each piece... but its difficult if i dont get to a point of being happy with my results...
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#2105487 - 06/20/13 09:01 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: Bobpickle]
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Originally Posted By: UKPaulUK
Thas exactly what i needed to read tonight bob :-)


Me Too!
Thanks Bobpickle. I read your links about practice as well.All good stuff. When I get home I shall choose three things to work on and play that Bach like Glen G. It'll be my take on it but done to perfection!

Your link toKeith Jarrett didn't work for me but I love his playing!
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#2105488 - 06/20/13 09:11 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: UK Paul UK]
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Originally Posted By: ukpauluk
Very frustrating getting stuck after investing so much time on my pieces....


I know what you mean. I've been at that Bach since Xmas. But perhaps it's like art - never finished. There's always something new to learn. Sometimes a break away helps things settle in the brain. I shall look up your pieces as soon as I get back to my computer . It'll be interesting to see what you are referring to! And to see if my break has helped my playing too.

Seems Bobpickle had something for both of us in his post today!
Thanks u2.
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#2106462 - 06/22/13 09:33 PM Re: Web Site Newbie [Re: UK Paul UK]
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That Chopin Gminor Polonaise sounds like a challenge!
Burmuller opus 100 I haven't tried.
Done a lot of czerny. but they sound quite a bit of fun once you get them down, though I can tell there's a challenge to them.
I've found I never really finish studies like that. I hear something different every time, or something else I've learned can apply to that one too, so there's always more to improve on. Breaks do help! Starting Beethoven's Sonatinas opus 33 as a re-intro before doing a full sonata. Loving it so far! Nicely within my capacity! but will take a while to practise up.
Good luck with yours.
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