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#2109597 - 06/28/13 11:11 AM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: Mta88]
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Mta88, I have read your post, here:

Don't they sell keyboard covers with an elastic band to protect from dust ?


In an acoustic I would imagine to leave the piano closed would be better to have less dust collection.

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Very funny. I am still double proofreading the post for errors and you have already responded.

I don't know about the elastic cover for the P95. I guess I could ask at the place where I bought the slab.

As far as the 3 legged piano, it doesn't sound as good with the lid closed. I only ever play ppp, so softly, but it really dose make a difference in the piano. Digital guys spend huge money buying laptops with grand piano sounding software, speakers and amps and special headphones - so for me, I can't be so lazy as to not open the top for the best sound even if I am only playing wrong notes.

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#2109705 - 06/28/13 01:45 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: bennevis]
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Originally Posted By: bennevis
Originally Posted By: Dave Horne

Shepdave, the footprint of any keyboard will be roughly the same as a spinet or the NU1. A slab will look more open but the footprint is just about the same.



No, the footprint is not the same.

My slab/stage piano, on its dedicated stand, leaves me lots of room on either side of my feet (and pedals) to put my two big boxes of music scores within easy reach. The NU1/N1 doesn't give me that room. Any room.


I stand corrected, you are correct.
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#2109712 - 06/28/13 02:15 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: ClsscLib]
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Originally Posted By: ClsscLib
If you do find a dealer in the DC area that has Kawai products on the floor, please let us know. I had to go to Sam Ash in NYC to try out Kawai slabs (and some other boards not carried at GC, which does have an otherwise decent selection, albeit a somewhat unique ambiance).


Okay, here's a DC-suburbs update, as well as an update on my journey.

I just drove to The Piano Company in Leesburg, VA, which is an authorized dealer for Kawai (and Yamaha and Bechstein and several other makes).

They had a Kawai MP6 and an ES7 on the floor. They let me play to my heart's content, so I noodled and played wrong notes and such for about 20 minutes, bouncing back and forth between the two. The ES7's sound was coming from its own speakers; the speaker-less MP6 was going through an amp about five feet away.

I soon realized that it was unfair to compare the two sounds like that, so they gave me a pair of basic headphones, which made the comparisons much easier.

There was also an acoustic grand just next to these DPs, a Kawai RX2, which I bounced over to several times for comparison.

The ES7 won the contest hands down. It felt and sounded much more like the acoustic grand than did the MP6. If anybody has any further comparison info for these two, I would be grateful.

Now, here's why I will buy it from these guys, assuming I pull the trigger tomorrow: their price on both DPs was exactly the same as all the Internet prices I've seen (Kraft, Sweetwater, Musician's Friend, etc.--$1,999.99 for the ES7). So there's no reason on earth for me to buy this piano online. These folks are a short drive from my house, and they allowed me to compare to my heart's delight. They earned my sale today.

After they wrote up the sales order on the ES7 (and no, I haven't had a credit card swiped yet), they invited me to sit down at the $75,000 Shigeru (sp?) Kawai from which allegedly come the samples for the DP. Sweet it was indeed.

So I had lots of fun in the piano shop today.

So, ClsscLib, it's The Piano Company in Leesburg. Very helpful, and had both in stock.

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#2109719 - 06/28/13 02:28 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Originally Posted By: shepdave
they invited me to sit down at the $75,000 Shigeru (sp?) Kawai from which allegedly come the samples for the DP. Sweet it was indeed.


Well...in the sense that perhaps the samples came from that model, the concert EX. I highly doubt that the actual piano got shipped over from Japan.

$75K actually sounds quite cheap for an EX to me. Makes me wonder if that's really what it was. The other Shigeru models get talked up quite a bit by dealers in my experience. Or maybe the economy or whatever has driven down the prices on these concert grands.

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#2109721 - 06/28/13 02:28 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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PS: Kawai James, the Kawai locator page you linked me to had a Piano Company store in Manassas, VA, but there doesn't actually seem to be one there.

(For the vast masses who are not in Northern Virginia, apologies for this very specific info.)

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#2109723 - 06/28/13 02:33 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: gvfarns]
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Originally Posted By: gvfarns
Well...in the sense that perhaps the samples came from that model, the concert EX. I highly doubt that the actual piano got shipped over from Japan.


No, probably not. smile

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$75K actually sounds quite cheap for an EX to me. Makes me wonder if that's really what it was. The other Shigeru models get talked up quite a bit by dealers in my experience. Or maybe the economy or whatever has driven down the prices on these concert grands.

No idea. I had never seen one of these before--having never in my life been in the market for one. She just sat me down at that keyboard as I was leaving, just to give me a bit more keyboard fun.

I made the same mistakes on the expensive long grand as I did on the $1,500 digital, though.


Edited by shepdave (06/28/13 03:18 PM)
Edit Reason: I always misspell "of" on an iPad.

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#2109732 - 06/28/13 02:59 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Originally Posted By: shepdave
Originally Posted By: ClsscLib
If you do find a dealer in the DC area that has Kawai products on the floor, please let us know. I had to go to Sam Ash in NYC to try out Kawai slabs (and some other boards not carried at GC, which does have an otherwise decent selection, albeit a somewhat unique ambiance).


Okay, here's a DC-suburbs update, as well as an update on my journey.

I just drove to The Piano Company in Leesburg, VA, which is an authorized dealer for Kawai (and Yamaha and Bechstein and several other makes).

They had a Kawai MP6 and an ES7 on the floor. They let me play to my heart's content, so I noodled and played wrong notes and such for about 20 minutes, bouncing back and forth between the two. The ES7's sound was coming from its own speakers; the speaker-less MP6 was going through an amp about five feet away.

I soon realized that it was unfair to compare the two sounds like that, so they gave me a pair of basic headphones, which made the comparisons much easier.

There was also an acoustic grand just next to these DPs, a Kawai RX2, which I bounced over to several times for comparison.

The ES7 won the contest hands down. I felt and sounded much more like the acoustic grand than did the MP6. If anybody has any further comparison info for these two, I would be grateful.

Now, here's why I will buy it from these guys, assuming I pull the trigger tomorrow: their price on both DPs was exactly the same as all the Internet prices I've seen (Kraft, Sweetwater, Musician's Friend, etc.--$1,999.99 for the ES7). So there's no reason on earth for me to buy this piano online. These folks are a short drive from my house, and they allowed me to compare to my heart's delight. They earned my sale today.

After they wrote up the sales order on the ES7 (and no, I haven't had a credit card swiped yet), they invited me to sit down at the $75,000 Shigeru (sp?) Kawai from which allegedly come the samples for the DP. Sweet it was indeed.

So I had lots of fun in the piano shop today.

So, ClsscLib, it's The Piano Company in Leesburg. Very helpful, and had both in stock.


Thanks, Dave. I know that store from my initial acoustic piano search of 18 months ago. Back then they were also repping Fazioli -- do they still?

That was the first time I ever heard the 16-foot Fazioli concert grand. An imposing instrument, to be sure!

Good luck with the ES-7. Please report back on how it grows on you!


Edited by ClsscLib (06/28/13 02:59 PM)
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#2109742 - 06/28/13 03:17 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: ClsscLib]
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Originally Posted By: ClsscLib
Thanks, Dave. I know that store from my initial acoustic piano search of 18 months ago. Back then they were also repping Fazioli -- do they still?

Yes; in fact, the first acoustic comparison-grand I used today was a Fazioli, probably a six-footer (didn't note the model), which was the closest one to the ES7. It wasn't in great tune, but sounded nice.

I always wish I were a better pianist when I go into a piano showroom. But I did have some fun today at that store. It helped that I was the only customer there at noon on a Friday, I'm sure.

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#2109822 - 06/28/13 05:30 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Shepdave-"After they wrote up the sales order on the ES7 (and no, I haven't had a credit card swiped yet), they invited me to sit down at the $75,000 Shigeru (sp?) Kawai from which allegedly come the samples for the DP. Sweet it was indeed."

That is the most impressive sales technique I`ve ever heard . . . Hope you enjoy your new to be instrument! I`m sure you`ll do some recordings . .
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#2109865 - 06/28/13 06:49 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Hi shepdave, Congratulations on your new ES7. It's truly a wonderful DP.
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#2109910 - 06/28/13 08:59 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Congrats Dave!

And thank you for the info about the dealer locator - I'll forward this to the folks responsible at Kawai America.

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#2110459 - 06/30/13 05:20 AM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: Michael_99]
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Originally Posted By: Michael_99
Mta88, I have read your post, here:

Don't they sell keyboard covers with an elastic band to protect from dust ?


In an acoustic I would imagine to leave the piano closed would be better to have less dust collection.

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Very funny. I am still double proofreading the post for errors and you have already responded.

I don't know about the elastic cover for the P95. I guess I could ask at the place where I bought the slab.

As far as the 3 legged piano, it doesn't sound as good with the lid closed. I only ever play ppp, so softly, but it really dose make a difference in the piano. Digital guys spend huge money buying laptops with grand piano sounding software, speakers and amps and special headphones - so for me, I can't be so lazy as to not open the top for the best sound even if I am only playing wrong notes.



I'm confused I wasn't trying to be funny.

Thought your concern was about dust collection. I suggested a cover for the digital piano and just keep the piano closed when not in use.

Of course u should open it when playing.

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#2110460 - 06/30/13 05:25 AM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Congratulations on your ES-7 Dave.

Gosh I really can't wait for my p-105 to arrive..

So excited.

I'm sure your purchase will give you many years of pleasure.

Read up on the ES-7 and it really seems to be a decent instrument, albeit a bit pricey, but seems to be worth it. I wish our piano stores stocked kawai and roland.
Such a pity.


Cheers.
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#2110462 - 06/30/13 05:34 AM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Michael_99 Disregard the 2nd to last post I thought u were offended for some reason..

U were referring the how fast I responded I think lol..



Edited by Mta88 (06/30/13 05:35 AM)
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#2110511 - 06/30/13 08:05 AM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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I got it! Picked up the ES7 yesterday. Unfortunately, the music store gave me the wrong X-stand (the light-duty one, and I paid for the heavier one). Moreover, I could not fit the piano, bench, stand, and gig bag into my wife's car with my wife still in it, so I'll go pick up the gig bag (and swap out the stand) tomorrow.

But I took the ES7 out last night and played it on a table, and it's über-cool! I am very excited.

Thanks to all of you for your great advice.

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#2110525 - 06/30/13 08:57 AM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Originally Posted By: shepdave
Moreover, I could not fit the piano, bench, stand, and gig bag into my wife's car with my wife still in it, so I'll go pick up the gig bag
I'm just sure a funny comment about leaving the "bag" at the store could be made here LOL.

Congrats on your purchase, and I hope all is worked out with the store quickly s you can get on to enjoying it! smile
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#2110531 - 06/30/13 09:14 AM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Yes, of course, it's about music more than furniture. I know that. But it's also about maintaining a successful 37-year marriage, which has been a part of my life much longer than my piano studies will ever have been.

So, no, I'm not going to dig in my heels and stand my ground on this. Not at all. I'm looking for a solution here that accepts the importance of this piece of furniture to my wife.


I am sure this thread has already gone somewhere else, but I just wanted to throw in there that I went through the same thing--I had a very old spinet in my living room which was taking up the space for where any new piano would go and a deep abiding nostalgic need to hold onto the spinet. Which was shared by my mother, so now you've got TWO people whose attachment to the piano was quite deeply engrained. For her part, she was only ok with that piano not being in HER house because she knew it was in her daughter's house.

So believe me when I say, I understand your wife's point of view because I share it. But I also am the person who wanted a piano to play, so I was quite conflicted on the inside. Like you, I considered a digital as a way to reconcile the problem.

My resolution? I decided to put the spinet in storage. It cannot be fixed in a way to make it a piano enjoyable to play, and even at its best was not a great instrument, so I was loathe to spend a ton of money rehabbing it anyway. What I had to do was understand that it is now a piece of furniture, which doesn't diminish its nostalgic importance, as one can be plenty attached to a piece of furniture. But understanding it that way certainly allowed me to also recognize that not every piece of furniture with nostalgic importance has a place in my decor RIGHT NOW. So into storage it was decided it would go. And then, at the last moment, my dear friend decided to start lessons and she agreed to store it FOR me, in her living room, and we are in agreement that it is my piano, but she's taking care of it for me. Perfect situation and one that was acceptable to me and my mother as she doesn't have kids or anything that would make me afraid that there is any danger to it as a piece of furniture.

So, this is the way I reconciled the situation, and it worked out well for me--and for my mother--in clearing it out in order to make room for a Piano That Is A Musical Instrument. In fact, I was able to replace it with a beautiful mahogany 5'10" grand piano. I can't tell you how happy I am to have it to play!

One day I might find room for it, or maybe not. I am still quite attached to my old piano, and I'm sure I will always be. But for the time being, that attachment isn't coming at the expense of having room for a musical instrument that can be played. And my friend sends me pictures of my piano, like it's at summer camp, haha.
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#2110535 - 06/30/13 09:19 AM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Oy vey. I'm sorry. I see you already got a digital. Oh well. I hope my post does not come off as being critical of your ultimate choice. We all solve problems differently, of course. And I can see a perfectly reasonable thought process that ends up with a digital, so I am absolutely happy for you. I know what it's like to finally have something you like to play right there in your house instead of that spinet that ultimately I just stared at with anger because it was not what I wanted it to be, haha.

ETA: Also, I just rented a digital for the summer (Roland RD700NX) since I'm away, and I'm actually a little excited to see what a digital would have been like had I gone that direction! So PLEASE do not understand me to be implying that my way is the only way! smile

Enjoy!


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#2110604 - 06/30/13 12:55 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Thanks for your long post, TwoSnowflakes. I actually just read it to my wife. No, I didn't take it as criticism of my choice at all--and I'm very excited about my choice. Very glad I didn't go cheap on the DP. I think the Kawai will do me for a good while.

We have two 20-something children who are both musicians. If one of them would get good and settled somewhere, we'd probably pass the Everett on to the next generation and get a good-quality upright. (My wife just went on a flight of fancy about building an extension to our house and making a room for a long grand. I pointed out that it'd be much easier and cheaper to get an upright!)

It sounds like your problem worked itself out well, I must say.

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#2110609 - 06/30/13 01:08 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Originally Posted By: shepdave
(My wife just went on a flight of fancy about building an extension to our house and making a room for a long grand. I pointed out that it'd be much easier and cheaper to get an upright!)



Oh you poor poor fool! Pay attention to your wife! You only live once! I lust for a nice long Kawai Grand! You have no idea what you're missing! Did you forget to take your medication? Yes, that's it. Go back to your wife. Beg her to get back on her flight of fancy. Tell her you forgot to take your medication. The dealer will easily take the money for the ES7 and apply it to a beautiful long loving Kawai Grand. Don't worry about the money. The world is coming to and end soon. The money won't do you any good. Enjoy the Kawai Grand in the meantime. Now repeat after me: Shigeru....Shigeru....Shigeru.... did you remember to take your medication?....Shigeru....Shigeru....Shigeru.... smile
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#2110621 - 06/30/13 01:27 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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rnaple, you are the devil, aren't you? Actually, my wife is so into remodeling our house that she might have only been half joking. And while I was paying for my digital yesterday in the piano showroom, she was walking around plinking on a few of the grands there. Maybe she caught a bit of new-piano fever herself.

So the saga might not be at a permanent end at all, just a successful pause.

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#2110627 - 06/30/13 01:45 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Originally Posted By: shepdave
So the saga might not be at a permanent end at all, just a successful pause.


Yes! Yes! That's the way to think! I have another nice little chant for you: My wife is wise and I am not....My wife is wise and I am not...:)

And just think. You can thank that nice, cute, little spinet for it all. You starting out dabbling on it. And your wife's great great great great.....oh whatever....she was so good to pass it down to your wife. Now go in there and give that cute little spinet a coat of furniture polish for being so good! smile
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#2110635 - 06/30/13 01:58 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Originally Posted By: shepdave
rnaple, you are the devil, aren't you?


You might want to ask Kawai James about that. Err...or...lets say...after he gets my Official Kawai Godzilla Metronome built. .... Hello? James? ..... Hello? smile
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#2110716 - 06/30/13 05:05 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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Originally Posted By: shepdave
I got it! Picked up the ES7 yesterday. Unfortunately, the music store gave me the wrong X-stand (the light-duty one, and I paid for the heavier one). Moreover, I could not fit the piano, bench, stand, and gig bag into my wife's car with my wife still in it, so I'll go pick up the gig bag (and swap out the stand) tomorrow.

If possible, you might want to swap the X stand for a Z stand or another kind of more stable stand. X stands are not ideal for a heavy digital piano, they will start wobbling when you play. The wobbling often makes noise too.
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#2110801 - 06/30/13 07:07 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: torhu]
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Originally Posted By: torhu
Originally Posted By: shepdave
I got it! Picked up the ES7 yesterday. Unfortunately, the music store gave me the wrong X-stand (the light-duty one, and I paid for the heavier one). Moreover, I could not fit the piano, bench, stand, and gig bag into my wife's car with my wife still in it, so I'll go pick up the gig bag (and swap out the stand) tomorrow.

If possible, you might want to swap the X stand for a Z stand or another kind of more stable stand. X stands are not ideal for a heavy digital piano, they will start wobbling when you play. The wobbling often makes noise too.


I wouldn't get and X or Z stand.

If you are not going to get the furniture stand that is made for it ...

This is the one I would get:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessori...=1&cIM=true
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#2110817 - 06/30/13 07:26 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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You all are giving me something to think about with regard to a stand. I'll probably go ahead and swap out the lighter X-stand for the heavier one that I paid for. But I'm also going to think about a different, more stable design.

Don, the company that makes that table-style stand you linked to, König & Meyer, makes the best guitar stand I've ever owned. I'm inclined to pay extra money and go with that one.

Portability is an issue, so I won't be getting the cabinet-style stand with the more permanent sides, I'm pretty sure.

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#2110846 - 06/30/13 08:43 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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LOL! Nothing like you getting a Shigeru Kawai and she getting an addition to build around to solve the space issue caused by an unassuming spinet in the most deliciously outrageous way possible. Your Everett, if it had the capacity to know what it had caused, would be very proud of itself.

I like this plan. I like it a lot.
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#2110866 - 06/30/13 09:13 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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+1 on the K&M table stand.
(if the official ES7 stand is not an option, of course...)

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#2110928 - 07/01/13 12:36 AM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: rnaple]
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Originally Posted By: rnaple
Originally Posted By: shepdave
(My wife just went on a flight of fancy about building an extension to our house and making a room for a long grand. I pointed out that it'd be much easier and cheaper to get an upright!)



Oh you poor poor fool! Pay attention to your wife! You only live once! I lust for a nice long Kawai Grand! You have no idea what you're missing! Did you forget to take your medication? Yes, that's it. Go back to your wife. Beg her to get back on her flight of fancy. Tell her you forgot to take your medication. The dealer will easily take the money for the ES7 and apply it to a beautiful long loving Kawai Grand. Don't worry about the money. The world is coming to and end soon. The money won't do you any good. Enjoy the Kawai Grand in the meantime. Now repeat after me: Shigeru....Shigeru....Shigeru.... did you remember to take your medication?....Shigeru....Shigeru....Shigeru.... smile



On my goodness. Lmao...


I'm sorry Dave but I am supporting rnaple 100%

What I would give to own a grand acoustic...

There is nothing wrong with owning both a digital piano and an acoustic piano in your house.

In fact most people tend to own both. Digital piano for practicing with headphones and late at night.

Grand acoustic for absolute musical pleasure and satisfaction.

I say listen to your wife. She is wise indeed wink
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#2181639 - 11/13/13 02:07 PM Re: Should I get a digital piano? [Re: shepdave]
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I know I'm a bit tardy with a reply here - but for anyone else reading and in the market, I've owned a Yamaha DGX 640 for a couple of years now and I'm very happy with it.

I've previously owned two upright acoustics, the first very old and a bit defective, the second much better quality and with a lovely action. I had to sell my second because I now live in a flat and, for the sake of peace from the neighbours, I've now entered the digital market so I can adjust the volume or silence it completely with headphones - very nice for practising late at night or if others in the house want a bit of peace and quiet. Even for anyone who owns an acoustic, I'd definitely recommend a digital too for just these reasons - and, of course, you can record straight to a computer and use DAWs etc.

It was a wrench selling my last acoustic as it was a very nice instrument but I have to say I'm pleased with my foray into the digital market. I didn't expect to get a DP on my rather humble budget which actually SOUNDED like an acoustic - and there is a difference, of course - but it's close enough to make me happy. Especially as it's in a medium sized room with a lot of furniture and I don't need to turn the speakers up terribly loud for a decent sound.

This instrument is also a lot heavier and more solid than it looks. With the furniture stand fitted, this piano isn't going to be moved unless that's your intent.

I like the weighted key action on this DP - I'm perfectly sure there are far better out there but on my budget, this was the best deal. The action's pretty close to the feel of my last acoustic, which is a bonus. I also bought the optional pedal unit which I think is essential for anyone learning piano. Don't know how I'd live without at least a damper pedal - and this unit has all three.

Btw, a tip I leaned from a musician online. Place your digital piano close to a wall - a couple of inches away is ideal - and the wall acts as a bass boost. Really makes the sound a lot richer.

Anyway, a satisfied Yamaha customer here. But if you're shopping for a digital and if it's at all possible, it's best to try out a number of different makes and models before buying as everyone has different preferences when it comes to touch and sound.
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