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#2109970 - 06/28/13 11:20 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Originally Posted By: IreneAdler
Well, my teacher wants to pick a different piece for me to work on, c'est la vie!


You can't work on something for fun besides the "assignment" pieces?

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#2110170 - 06/29/13 12:27 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Yes, it would be a shame if Irene missed out on taking part. Everyone enjoyed the Mendelssohn so much... so would you like to do another piece instead?

On the other hand, I'm quite chuffed that if a piece is to be dropped, that its this one. It was my second choice, so I'm claiming it back again!!!

Folks, I think its time that we see if we can get the other pieces taken. If you have opted for a second choice, please confirm that you're still happy to do it. And, if you fancy any of the remaining pieces - jump on in!

I'll be putting up a revised list showing 'taken' and 'not taken' in the next day or two. And I'll correct peoples' names at the same time!

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#2110181 - 06/29/13 01:02 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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- ok, so I'll go for broke and try for a third piece - 57/5 'She Dances'

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#2110210 - 06/29/13 02:50 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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I confirm Berceuse, Op. 38/1, as my second piece.
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#2110238 - 06/29/13 03:43 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Piano*Dad]
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Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad
Originally Posted By: IreneAdler
Well, my teacher wants to pick a different piece for me to work on, c'est la vie!


You can't work on something for fun besides the "assignment" pieces?



I picked an easier Grieg piece just for that reason. Turns out my teacher likes it and keeps wanting me to "bring it" for a lesson. We need to keep these wily teachers in check wink
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#2110360 - 06/29/13 10:18 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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I'm sad that I wasn't around earlier to take part in this, but I can't wait to hear everyone else's renditions. I'm feeling inspired to put some of the Lyric pieces on my study list now thank to all of you.
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#2110375 - 06/29/13 10:39 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Anne H, you can still take part! Look through the list of pieces and choose one (or more) that isn't yet claimed by someone. You can also claim pieces that are listed at the bottom as someone's "second choice". We'd love to have you!

You have until September to learn the piece. When you've learned it, record it and post it to YouTube. Then send rostosky a link to the video. He will post the links all together in opus order in September when the recital opens.
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#2110382 - 06/29/13 11:05 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Hmm...perhaps this is what I need to figure out how to record competently on my new upright? I'd love to take a stab at Opus 71. "Once Upon A Time". I've always loved listening to it and the fast middle section doesn't look quite as intimidating as I thought at first glance.

Thank you for the encouragement! I'm so glad to have found this place.
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#2110391 - 06/29/13 11:34 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Oooh, that piece 71.1 looks very interesting! I'll look forward to hearing it.
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#2110420 - 06/30/13 01:19 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Piano*Dad]
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Originally Posted By: Piano*Dad
Originally Posted By: IreneAdler
Well, my teacher wants to pick a different piece for me to work on, c'est la vie!


You can't work on something for fun besides the "assignment" pieces?



Ohh it is not that I do have many other pieces that I am working on for fun, besides my lesson pieces, but when I showed the piece to my teacher he was not keen on it as I had hoped; and I do not believe I am quite to the level where I could learn this piece by myself, so I thought it best to remove my name from the list.

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#2110489 - 06/30/13 07:00 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Welcome Anne! and thanks for confirming your second choices ZRTF90 and dire tonic. Please can the rest of you do the same. Later today, I'll put up a list of 'taken' pieces based on the assumption that everyone still wants to do their second choice (where applicable). And do another list of the pieces which no one has chosen as first or second choice.

So to any of you out there who are thinking of dipping your toes in the water - we'd love you to join us! And of course any of you already signed up can think about if you want to take on a third piece ...

Hope with is ok with you all


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#2110493 - 06/30/13 07:20 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Confirming my second choice 65.3.

Trying out pieces to come up with a third or even fourth choice.
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#2110519 - 06/30/13 08:44 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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My second choice is Halling, 71/5 smile

Found out I had to rework this one as well in one section because the big chords were killing me up to tempo. I don't think you can even tell the extra note is missing though, but that will delay things a bit. On the bright side, it's memorized!
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#2110881 - 06/30/13 10:37 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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I ran through my piece very slowly today and liked it even more upon actually playing it! The only thing I know I'll have issues with is getting the middle section up to tempo (my finger strength/dexterity is still pretty low as I've only been back at this for six months seriously). Anyone have any recommendations for exercises that help with this? Hanon or Czerny? Is there anything less painful/more interesting than those that has come out or are those still the classics to go to?
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#2110883 - 06/30/13 10:39 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Anne H]
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Originally Posted By: Anne H
I ran through my piece very slowly today and liked it even more upon actually playing it! The only thing I know I'll have issues with is getting the middle section up to tempo (my finger strength/dexterity is still pretty low as I've only been back at this for six months seriously). Anyone have any recommendations for exercises that help with this? Hanon or Czerny? Is there anything less painful/more interesting than those that has come out or are those still the classics to go to?
Why not make exercises of what you are playing in the piece? I find those to be the best and most effective. Once in a while you need work on trills or something and Hanon is good for that. Until you're ready to try increasing the tempo though, plenty of slow practice now will be very helpful to prepare you.
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#2110886 - 06/30/13 10:41 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Morodiene]
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Thank you Morodiene! That's my usual method, so it's nice to hear that it's actually a method and not just me. I'm learning the Ravel Pavane in a similar way, although it's been very slow going so far.
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#2110888 - 06/30/13 10:50 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Anne H]
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Thank you Morodiene! That's my usual method, so it's nice to hear that it's actually a method and not just me. I'm learning the Ravel Pavane in a similar way, although it's been very slow going so far.
I love that piece, someday I will learn it. I've read through it a few times but I haven't put in the time it needs. Slow is OK smile
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#2110990 - 07/01/13 05:12 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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As promised, here is the list of untaken pieces. (I have assumed that people are still doing their second choice pieces, unless they tell me to the contrary)

So lets get them all taken, cos it would be great to be able to do the full set, involving as many people as possible. If you're willing to give it a go, even if you don't think you could do a perfect performance, please consider it. This series of recitals is as much about personal growth and pushing against your 'boundaries' as producing a technically perfect performance (especially for me!). And doing the best you can is another kind of perfection, because no one could be expected to give more than that.

We're a mixed, friendly bunch and very supportive - helping each other out, and sharing each others' difficulties - its all part of the fun! We are from many different countries, different ages, and range from people who work in music for a living to 'dabblers' who just have fun, and want to push themselves a bit, in the company of fellow travellers. Many like to prepare their contribution privately and that's obviously great too.

If you've already chosen one or more pieces, for the time being, I think it only fair that if you reserve one of these 'leftovers', you can only do so provisionally, to give as many people as possible the chance to take part. But anything not taken by the beginning of August will be yours for sure, and anything still left will be up for grabs, first come, first served.

so here we go...

OPUS 12
No 8 : National Song

OPUS 38
No 5 : Spring Dance
No 8 : Canon

OPUS 43
No 6 : To the spring

OPUS 47
No 7 : Elegy

OPUS 54
No 5 : Scherzo

OPUS 62
No 2 : Gratitude
No 3 : French Serenade
No 6 : Homeward

OPUS 65
No 4 : Salon

OPUS 68
No 2 :Grandmother's minuet
No 6 : Melancholy Waltz

OPUS 71
No 2 : Summer Evening
No 6 : Gone

Later, I'll do the list of pieces already assigned - but for now its time to walk the dog and start the day!


Edited by Dipsy (07/01/13 05:21 AM)

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#2110992 - 07/01/13 05:23 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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On reading my last post - the bit about it not being vital to have technical perfection...
Beric gave a snort, then said.

' I would like to think that our pieces were worth listening to'



Of course. That too.

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#2111022 - 07/01/13 07:24 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Dipsy]
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Probably the easiest of the remaining pieces is 12/8, the National Song. A slower tempo would work with this, and it's basically some nice chords with a bunch of repetition. So if you are on the fence about taking on one of these, that would be a good choice.

As a second choice, I would like 71/6 - "Gone". It's got some odd chromatic harmonies...

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#2111030 - 07/01/13 07:55 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Dipsy]
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OPUS 71
No 2 : Summer Evening
No 6 : Gone


Dipsy, Gone is my piece and I've been practising it for a month. smile


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#2111044 - 07/01/13 08:34 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Will get in touch with you both keystring and SamS to sort this.
'Gone ' seems a particularly appropriate title doesn't it!



Edited by Dipsy (07/01/13 08:35 AM)

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#2111045 - 07/01/13 08:36 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Dipsy]
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Will get in touch with you both keystring and SamS to sort this.



Doesn't look like there's much to sort? "Gone" is clearly assigned to Keystring on the last list you sent out and SamS listed it as second choice anyway.
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#2111059 - 07/01/13 09:12 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Right folks - here is the list of 'taken' pieces AS I UNDERSTAND IT. Its a long list - so I'm confident that we'll be able to find 'homes' for the remaining pieces.

PLEASE NOW CHECK YOUR PIECES ARE LISTED CORRECTLY. If I don't hear from you I will assume that you are happy with it. Mistakes not picked up now could cause big problems, and make things very confusing nearer the deadline (recital will be published mid Sept)!

OPUS 12
No 1: Arietta (AimeeO)
No 2: Waltz (Saranoya)
No 3: Watchman's Song (Casinitaly)
No 4: Elve's Dance (LadyChen)
No 5: Popular Melody (AndyPlatt)
No 6: Norwegian Melody (Piano Dad)
No 7: Album Leaf (Saranoya)

OPUS 38
No 1: Berceuse (zrtf90)
No 2: Popular Melody (Wayne33yrs)
No 3: Melody (SwissMS)
No 4: Halling (Piano Dad)
No 6: Elegy (Recaredo)
No 7: Waltz (Dipsy)

OPUS 43
No 1: Butterfly (Beric)
No 2: Solitary Traveller (Wisebuff)
No 3: In My Native Country (Allard)
No 4: Little Bird (RagnHild)
No 5: Erotik (Peterws)

OPUS 47
No I: Valse Impromptu (Swissms)
No 2: Album Leaf (Ganddalf)
No 3: Melody (Dipsy)
No 4: Halling (Carlos88)
No 5: Melancholy (Stumbler)
No 6: Spring Dance (Peterws)

OPUS 54
No 1: Shepherd's Boy (Beric)
No 2: Norwegian March (zrtf90)
No 3: March of the Trolls (Rostosky)
No 4: Notturno (Dipsy)
No 6: Bell Ringing (Sinophilia)

OPUS 57
No 1: Vanished Days (dire tonic)
No 2: Gade (Sam S)
No 3: Illusion (PianoStudent88)
No 4: Secret (Beric)
No 5: She Dances (Dire Tonic)
No 6: Home Sickness (RagnHild)

OPUS 62
No 1: Sylph (niluh01)
No 4: Brooklet (niluh01)
No 5: Phantom (Pavel.K)

OPUS 65
No 1: From Early Years (Morodiene)
No 2: Peasant's Song (Wisebuff)
No 3: Melancholy (PianoStudent88)
No 5: Ballad (Rupak Bhattacharya)
No 6: Wedding Day at Troldhauen (Ganddalf)

OPUS 68
No 1: Sailor's Song (ElleC)
No 3: At Your Feet (dire tonic)
No 4: Evening in the mountains (Limefriday)
No 5: Cradle Song (Carey)

OPUS 71
No 1: Once upon a time (AnneH)
No 3: Puck (Farmgirl)
No 4: Peace of the Woods (Valencia)
No 5: Halling (Morodiene)
No 6: Gone (Keystring?)
No 7: Remembrances (dynamobt)

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#2111065 - 07/01/13 09:19 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Dipsy]
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Sorry for the confusion - I though 71/6 was available - no problem.

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#2111070 - 07/01/13 09:29 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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It was my fault Sam - sorry to mess you about and thanks for relinquishing it.

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#2111083 - 07/01/13 10:01 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Thanks Sam. And thank you Dipsy for your hard work. That's quite a task to take on.

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#2113910 - 07/06/13 07:16 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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There's no metronome marking in my Grieg edition, so I'm trying to figure out the speed to shoot for in the middle section of my piece. It's marked "allegro brioso", which is more of a mood indicator than a time one. Does anyone have any recommendations?
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#2114160 - 07/07/13 11:26 AM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Does anyone have any recommendations?


Not about that specific spot in your piece. My edition has no metronome markings either, which is fine by me. That tells me a range of opinion is possible. Before I settle on a tempo, I go online (or to my CD) to see what tempi the pros use. When I see some variance there as well, I'm comfortable picking a pace that works for me.

Ideally, I want to be in the range of tempi I hear in those professional recordings. On the other hand, I happen to have chosen two quite speedy little pieces. So "close" is good enough. smile
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#2114168 - 07/07/13 12:01 PM Re: Grieg recital: Proposal..... [Re: Rostosky]
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Time is the challenge in my piece, even though it's slow or especially since it's slow. It changes moods in the middle, and anyone I heard whose playing I like speeds up somewhat in the middle section right after a ritardando, moving right into it. The challenge is to keep a pulse while not being metronomic. It seems to be a "Grieg thing". laugh

Anne, yours has a new mood in the middle too. I just listened to this version to get a sense of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCLwtanrdW4

I have a feeling that if you tap out the underlying pulse while listening, you'll find the middle has pretty well the same one, but Grieg has written faster notes. (What I mean is, supposing you have 4/4 time that you're playing at 120 - it will sound slower if it's mostly half notes, but faster if it has mostly 16th notes - that kind of "faster notes".) He's going for mood with the "allegro brioso" but he also creates it through the rhythm he has written in --- this "diddlediddle dee" thing.

As Piano*Dad said, listening to different good players can give you some idea about their interpretation - that's not imitation but getting an idea.



(P.S. I was hoping to find a recording of Andsnes playing it. His playing is brilliant, and also very clear and transparent of understanding some of what he does.)


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