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#2111654 - 07/02/13 03:07 PM Glue for understring cloth
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I need to stick on the cloth that goes between the frame and the lower part of the strings. Reblitz says use 'shellac' but I don't have any (unless I can use premixed french polish, because I have some of that).

Will hot glue work for that job? I have a feeling the frame might suck away the heat from the glue too quickly, but I could be wrong. EDIT: just read something that tells me hot glue won't stick to metal, so that's definitely out.

Any ideas?


Edited by Jim Dunleavy (07/02/13 03:30 PM)
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#2111667 - 07/02/13 03:30 PM Re: Glue for understring cloth [Re: Jim Dunleavy]
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Fish glue, warm glue.
Rubber glue. It is a thin white glue used by shoe makers inside shoes.

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#2111679 - 07/02/13 03:55 PM Re: Glue for understring cloth [Re: Jim Dunleavy]
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That rubber glue sounds just the job - I'll probably get some at the local heel bar. smile

Thanks!
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#2111703 - 07/02/13 04:25 PM Re: Glue for understring cloth [Re: Jim Dunleavy]
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Actually, I have seen hide glue used for understring cloth here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm0Aoo-1Gqg&list=PL4A54086BB91D169C
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#2111713 - 07/02/13 04:43 PM Re: Glue for understring cloth [Re: Jim Dunleavy]
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I just use SOBO
And it's water soluble if/or when you need to remove it.
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#2112131 - 07/03/13 11:24 AM Re: Glue for understring cloth [Re: Jim Dunleavy]
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Thanks for the replies. I'll see what I can find in the local shops.
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#2112223 - 07/03/13 01:55 PM Re: Glue for understring cloth [Re: Jim Dunleavy]
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Greetings,
Traditionally, in factory work, shellac in a dish was burned off to make a sticky paste. At some point, enough of the alcohol would be gone and the rest of the solids hot enough that there was a syrup with a short window of incredible adhesion. I think that is what Reblitz was referring to. It is a great technique, and I have used it, but I don't know if the old factory guys would have if they had had the modern adhesives we have today.
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#2112630 - 07/04/13 06:05 AM Re: Glue for understring cloth [Re: Jim Dunleavy]
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Burnt shellac hold leather on metal or felt on metal forether (100 years)
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#2112870 - 07/04/13 03:07 PM Re: Glue for understring cloth [Re: Jim Dunleavy]
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I got some all-purpose contact adhesive today. It was Wilkinson's own brand, and is supposed to stick metal, fabric, paper etc and dries to a flexible finish. It's one of those you apply to both surfaces and allow to go tacky before joining them together.

I did a test and it seemed fine so I've gone ahead and stuck all the felts on - it looks nice (very red!).

The consistency and general properties remind me of the old yellow Evo-Stick adhesive that you used to get years ago (except it's clear).
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