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#2113321 - 07/05/13 04:24 PM Glen Gould
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Was Glen Gould who was a fantastic pianist considered a bit eccentric in his way of playing (humming along to the music)

It is not the kind of thing I would do.

http://youtu.be/qB76jxBq_gQ

Interested to know thoughts about this.

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#2113392 - 07/05/13 06:56 PM Re: Glen Gould [Re: adultpianist]
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Originally Posted By: adultpianist
Interested to know thoughts about this.


That isn't normal?
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#2113410 - 07/05/13 07:35 PM Re: Glen Gould [Re: adultpianist]
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Originally Posted By: adultpianist
Was Glen Gould who was a fantastic pianist considered a bit eccentric in his way of playing (humming along to the music)


It's not that uncommon a thing among expert pianists, particularly jazz.

Music is pretty related to the language centers of our brain. And music, particularly, at a high level, is really difficult. So music and language can get intertwined really easily and act as an emotional reaction or a kind of positive feedback that helps the performance--while also hindering it.
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#2113614 - 07/06/13 07:50 AM Re: Glen Gould [Re: adultpianist]
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Musicians of very high caliber can often be an eccentric lot, but it's true that Gould was considered to be particularly eccentric. He needed things to be just so, and it's been posited that he may even have been on the autism spectrum. Obviously there's no way to know, nor does it really matter, but it's reasonable to say that Gould had was not altogether typical, even when compared to other highly talented solo musicians.
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#2113625 - 07/06/13 08:20 AM Re: Glen Gould [Re: TwoSnowflakes]
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adultpianist, I have read your post, here:

Was Glen Gould who was a fantastic pianist and considered a bit eccentric.

It is not the kind of thing I would do.

Interested to know thoughts about this.

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Lots of people are eccentric. Lots of piano players
could be eccentric. But unless people are in the public eye, they pretty much go unnoticed.


Edited by Michael_99 (07/06/13 08:22 AM)

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#2113698 - 07/06/13 11:18 AM Re: Glen Gould [Re: adultpianist]
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Gould's eccentricities--including his reclusiveness--made his public performance career very short. His recordings of Bach are exciting but controversial. However, he is mainly responsible for returning Bach to the mainstream of the piano repertoire (not solely for harpsichord players). And his late Brahms recordings show that he was far from being a one-trick pony.

I have heard that Claudio Arrau also hummed when he performed.

But if you're going to hum on stage or in the recording studio, you'd better be good!
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#2113842 - 07/06/13 04:15 PM Re: Glen Gould [Re: adultpianist]
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Gould was certainty a genius at the piano, and his Goldberg still is considered without rivals. To say that he was eccentric is being very kind, a description we give to those we respect, of course, but in reality, he was a borderline nut case, though quite a few famous artists have serious personality defects, so I suppose he was normal among brilliant artists. His love ones left him because of his obsessive overbearing control over the lives of the people around him, which were few, and he regretted not seeing his dying mother at the hospital because of his fear of gems.

His singing during his performances are difficult for me to listen to. It is unacceptable for anyone except Gould, which is to say it is unacceptable, but we tolerate it only because he is Gould. His earlier performances were certainty not like that, and he did not sing along, but in his later recordings, you could hear the singing distinctly in the background. His often radical tempo changes of pieces by Mozart, Beethoven, and Brahms are interesting and sound very cool, though I am not sure of their merits in the circle of experts, which I am not one. His argument with Leonard Bernstein over Brahm that led Bernstein to announce to the audience before a performance that he completely disagreed with Gould was quite unprecedented. It led to the argument of who's in charge? The conductor or the pianist?
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#2113936 - 07/06/13 08:23 PM Re: Glen Gould [Re: adultpianist]
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He knew at 6 years old that he related to animals much easier than humans.
Had a life long affinity for animals.

That's a big big plus for the guy. Real BIG!
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#2113939 - 07/06/13 08:31 PM Re: Glen Gould [Re: adultpianist]
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There is a great documentary about him, and I believe its available on You Tube.

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#2113984 - 07/06/13 10:06 PM Re: Glen Gould [Re: adultpianist]
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George Szell said of Gould, "That nut is a genius!"
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#2114044 - 07/07/13 02:10 AM Re: Glen Gould [Re: adultpianist]
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Originally Posted By: adultpianist
Was Glen Gould who was a fantastic pianist considered a bit eccentric in his way of playing (humming along to the music)

It is not the kind of thing I would do.

http://youtu.be/qB76jxBq_gQ

Interested to know thoughts about this.


You've never listened to Keith Jarrett wink

and yet he's still easily one of my favorite jazz musicians

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#2114112 - 07/07/13 09:16 AM Re: Glen Gould [Re: adultpianist]
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The legs crossed is kind of wierd too.

I hate hearing pianists hum along with their playing. And that includes Jarrett. Thank goodness Goulds beautiful Goldberg Variations has no humming.


Edited by Peyton (07/07/13 09:17 AM)
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#2114115 - 07/07/13 09:28 AM Re: Glen Gould [Re: Peyton]
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Originally Posted By: Peyton
The legs crossed is kind of wierd too.

I hate hearing pianists hum along with their playing. And that includes Jarrett. Thank goodness Goulds beautiful Goldberg Variations has no humming.

Many pianists, both Jazz and Classical, hum or sing along when they play. It may well come from being taught, that if you want to play the piano well, to listen to opera, and sing the lines of the melody.

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